Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th

[Mars_ax]

Now that this fight is back on, it's worth having a thread about it, any Abe fans out there?

May 14
At Carson, Calif. (Showtime): Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals, Andre Ward vs. Arthur Abraham, 12 rounds, for Ward's WBA super middleweight title; Cristobal Arreola vs. Nagy Aguilera, 10 rounds, heavyweights.

Ward figures to win an ugly decision, but I would love for Abraham to rock the "SOG's" world and pull off the upset.

Thoughts?

[Mars_ax]

Bump.... no thoughts, or interest on this fight?

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[Dropanuke]

I hated Abe but when he was dqd and my fav fighter crushed him I grew major respect for him

[blegit]

I don't know why Ward changed his style so much since he was an amateur. He used to box circles and use his speed and distance. Now he fights tactically close like B-Hop. Its been very successful but this style is probably the worst out of all the Super Six styles against AA. Ward may very well be the best fighter in the tournament but I'm telling you that his style is the worst against AA's style. He leaves a lot of opportunity for AA to get his short punches off. AA doesn't even have to wait rounds to walk him down. His power punches will be in range the whole fight. Ward is a cerebral fighter but I am very interested in what he has plan for this fight because I think people are wrongfully counting AA out due to the previous styles which Ward doesn't care to display.

[Mars_ax]

I don't know why Ward changed his style so much since he was an amateur. He used to box circles and use his speed and distance. Now he fights tactically close like B-Hop. Its been very successful but this style is probably the worst out of all the Super Six styles against AA. Ward may very well be the best fighter in the tournament but I'm telling you that his style is the worst against AA's style. He leaves a lot of opportunity for AA to get his short punches off. AA doesn't even have to wait rounds to walk him down. His power punches will be in range the whole fight. Ward is a cerebral fighter but I am very interested in what he has plan for this fight because I think people are wrongfully counting AA out due to the previous styles which Ward doesn't care to display.

I'm hoping we get a good performance out of Abraham, he's got the power to hurt Ward, so we could see a hell of a fight..

[rjj tszyu]

I see a very one sided win for Ward now. I wouldn't have predicted that at the start of the tournament though. After watching Abraham destroy Taylor, I thought he was going to win the whole thing. But Froch and Dirrell both schooled Abraham and I think Ward will do the same now.

I think that the fight of the tournament may well be Froch vs Johnson!

[Mars_ax]

I see a very one sided win for Ward now. I wouldn't have predicted that at the start of the tournament though. After watching Abraham destroy Taylor, I thought he was going to win the whole thing. But Froch and Dirrell both schooled Abraham and I think Ward will do the same now.

I think that the fight of the tournament may well be Froch vs Johnson!

Chances are, you are correct, and the "SOG" will win an ugly decision over Abe, but since I don't care much for Ward or his style and would love to see him lose, i'll be pulling for Abe.

In re: Froch vs Johnson, yup, i'm looking forward to that fight, it could be really entertaining, Johnson seems to be reborn hard at 168, I wouldn't count him out.

[Dropanuke]

All I can say is don't bet on this fight,
This one could go either way, look for ward to show no heart/heart of a genuine champion and bhop Abraham.

[IamInuit]

Now that this fight is back on, it's worth having a thread about it, any Abe fans out there?

May 14
At Carson, Calif. (Showtime): Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals, Andre Ward vs. Arthur Abraham, 12 rounds, for Ward's WBA super middleweight title; Cristobal Arreola vs. Nagy Aguilera, 10 rounds, heavyweights.

Ward figures to win an ugly decision, but I would love for Abraham to rock the "SOG's" world and pull off the upset.

Thoughts?

When you are a turtle or use that kind of D, you have to throw like Winky. I suspect this fight will resemble very much what the Dirrell scrap looked like. Abrahams biggest problem is his inactivity. He seems to hold off and then try to accomplish the task in the last couple of rounds. You cant do that at this level.

Their is a chance I suppose that Abe could catch him diving in head first ala the Kessler fight but I would not bank on it and neither should his camp. Ward switch hits on the fly better then anyone since Hagler and with that kind of hand speed, Abes a punching bag.

[Jacktowt]

That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.

[Cressa121]

That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.

He didn't do much biting back against Froch though did he?

I think it'll be relatively comfortable for Ward. He won't let Abraham get set to throw his big power punches and should be able to dominate with his speed and movement. With Abraham's power you can't count him out completely, but I was one of those that thought he'd beat Froch because of his power and he never really threw that many bombs. He was never set to throw them and couldn't deal with Froch's jab and movement. I can see something similar happening here

I'd imagine it'll be like watching Ward working the heavy bag for 12 rounds, with Abraham mounting some occasional offense. I want Ward to win because there's just no point at all in seeing Froch-Abraham II in the final if Froch gets by Johnson. I'd much rather see Froch-Ward as I think the SuperSix has at least shown those 2 to be the best fighters in the competition so it's only natural that they should meet in the final. Really I don't see much point in the semi finals even taking place at all, it should have just been a Froch-Ward final to begin with.

[Mars_ax]

That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.

He didn't do much biting back against Froch though did he?

I think it'll be relatively comfortable for Ward. He won't let Abraham get set to throw his big power punches and should be able to dominate with his speed and movement. With Abraham's power you can't count him out completely, but I was one of those that thought he'd beat Froch because of his power and he never really threw that many bombs. He was never set to throw them and couldn't deal with Froch's jab and movement. I can see something similar happening here

I'd imagine it'll be like watching Ward working the heavy bag for 12 rounds, with Abraham mounting some occasional offense. I want Ward to win because there's just no point at all in seeing Froch-Abraham II in the final if Froch gets by Johnson. I'd much rather see Froch-Ward as I think the SuperSix has at least shown those 2 to be the best fighters in the competition so it's only natural that they should meet in the final. Really I don't see much point in the semi finals even taking place at all, it should have just been a Froch-Ward final to begin with.

I agree Froch-Ward would be the natural or most logical ending to the SS- tourney, but it wouldn't break my heart to see the SOG lose to Abraham, and if it ended up being Froch-Abe in the final, that's just the way it goes.

[marbleheadmaui]

I just can't see a way Abraham competes here. Ward is just too sound.

But I also can't see Ward really hurting King Arthur.

[marbleheadmaui]

That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.

He didn't do much biting back against Froch though did he?

I think it'll be relatively comfortable for Ward. He won't let Abraham get set to throw his big power punches and should be able to dominate with his speed and movement. With Abraham's power you can't count him out completely, but I was one of those that thought he'd beat Froch because of his power and he never really threw that many bombs. He was never set to throw them and couldn't deal with Froch's jab and movement. I can see something similar happening here

I'd imagine it'll be like watching Ward working the heavy bag for 12 rounds, with Abraham mounting some occasional offense. I want Ward to win because there's just no point at all in seeing Froch-Abraham II in the final if Froch gets by Johnson. I'd much rather see Froch-Ward as I think the SuperSix has at least shown those 2 to be the best fighters in the competition so it's only natural that they should meet in the final. Really I don't see much point in the semi finals even taking place at all, it should have just been a Froch-Ward final to begin with.

I kinda expect the bold as well. Froch Ward would be a wonderful fight. More fun if it takes place in the UK with those looney fans!

[Jacktowt]

Course ward and froch can box. Arthur is more of a punisher. Go Abraham