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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Doesn't matter.....The Pacfarts will rag on Floyd for this one. Yet if Pac said he was fighting Ortiz the Pacfarts would be putting Floyd down even more. But Shane is a great opponent and in his prime too...lol

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Don't jump down my back for assuming Box Rec always has the facts straight. But......they do have Floyd and Victor fighting on the 17th in Cowboys Stadium. Please tell me why Cowboys Stadium? Isn't this Arum's turf? And Victor and Floyd aren't connected or going to do favors for Arum. Anyone have any ideas?

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    One thing for sure: I could hardly get excited by the idea of that fight.
    Why not? It's a great matchup and Ortiz is one of the most exciting fighters around.

    Do you believe in the invincibility of Floyd Mayweather or something? He's only fought twice in 3 years and would have been 18 months out of the ring by the time that fight took place.

    Unless you assume he's some kind of super human and judge him differently from all other fighters how could you possibly make the case that this is an unintersting routine comeback fight for him?

    If he comes back after 18 months and goes straight to fighting Ortiz that would be a big risk.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Exactly, he should be fighting Manny. Ortiz is more than a tune up, but nobody is demanding it.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Exactly, he should be fighting Manny. Ortiz is more than a tune up, but nobody is demanding it.

    Agreed, the is only one fight out there for Floyd.

    Once again Floyd helping his bank balance out with another easy win.

    Ortiz is a good fighter, but thats all he is. He doesnt have enough to de-throne Floyd and take his 0.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    If this fight comes off then I really don't see this being a very difficult fight for Mayweather. He thrives on aggressive fighters coming at him so he can counter. Ortiz is too green still.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Say what you want about this, but it's a hell of a lot more legit than Pac/Mosley. Ortiz is a good young fighter, arguably in his prime and riding a huge win. Mosley was outclassed by Mayweather and put up such a horrible performance against Mora that even the biggest Mosley fans believe he's washed up.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    i am a HUUUGGEEEEE mayweather fan.....but i take a big ass shit on this fight, ortiz is good, but he is not ripe yet, maybe it will do something for floods legacy once both of their careers are all wrapped up, but it does nothing for him now as ortiz is not exactly accomplished, i really wanna see manny vs floyd, i feel bad for osama, he will never got to see it

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Hate the idea of this fight, despite being a Mayweather fan. Getting tired of the run around. Point blank, its a foregone conclusion that Mayweather wants to pick Ortiz clean of his title. While I don't think that Ortiz should be protected, He's the type of fighter that Boxing needs with a title right now. A guy that stepped up to a challenge worked on his game, found his heart and was rewarded richly for it.
    Mayweather right now is not what boxing needs.. he gets the belt which is enough to keep him in a pound for pound running while he retires with it and sits around idle for another few months, talking crap from behind a webcam. I'd be in no rush to see this ones.. given how this waters down everything even further. Sorry Floyd, wake me when you're serious about sticking around or making a statement besides "Hi remember me?"
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Ha that is a very good point.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Well, it was a tune up to Pacquiao untill Manny shit his pants at the thought of drug testing. So he took on the same fighter that Manny is having to dust down as an opponent over a year later

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Well, it was a tune up to Pacquiao untill Manny shit his pants at the thought of drug testing. So he took on the same fighter that Manny is having to dust down as an opponent over a year later
    Although I understand Manny's position in not giving in to Floyd's demand in the first negotiation, I had wished that he just called in the bluff for I really do not think that Mayweather wants to fight him. This was revealed in the second negotiation. What is Floyd's excuse in that negotiation ..... that he is going on vacation? THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO NEED FOR A TUNE-UP IF HE AGREED TO FIGHT THEN!!! Floyd scheduling a fight a few days before a Pacquiao fight gives him an excuse for people not to clamor that he fights Pacquiao.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    It's a decent enough pairing, but Ortiz has only just made his mark. I would like to see him build his career more really. Mayweather should really be thinking about fighting nobody except the winner of the big fight this weekend.

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