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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Exactly, he should be fighting Manny. Ortiz is more than a tune up, but nobody is demanding it.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    My issue with this is not that Floyd is fighting Ortiz but the timing of the announcement for the fight. He did this by revealing his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The question that was brought up then (and I'm sure will be brought up again) was why he didn't wait for the conclusion of the Pacquiao fights and then fight Pac. Oh, the Ortiz bout is supposed to be a tune-up fight, just like the JMM fight. How many tune-up fights is he planning to do?
    Exactly, he should be fighting Manny. Ortiz is more than a tune up, but nobody is demanding it.

    Agreed, the is only one fight out there for Floyd.

    Once again Floyd helping his bank balance out with another easy win.

    Ortiz is a good fighter, but thats all he is. He doesnt have enough to de-throne Floyd and take his 0.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    If this fight comes off then I really don't see this being a very difficult fight for Mayweather. He thrives on aggressive fighters coming at him so he can counter. Ortiz is too green still.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    I dont have a problem with this fight. People were on about Pac man should be fighting Berto instead of Mosley. Ortiz just beat Berto in a great fight, and if the fight comes off, Floyd gets stick.

    Would be a good warm up fight Ortiz is big and strong with a decent punch and is a southpaw like Manny.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    This Ortiz purported fight is all but a temperature check.... IMO.

    A second one... if counting the Spadafora check as first... There is a danger to this tho, for if this nonesense of a fight somehow find a way to buy wheels, then the "little rascal" will have earned again himself millions without a sweat, courtesy of the smoke buying public, which also effectively and cunningly sidesteps the real fight that has public clamor. We all know what that fight is, and it's not the one against Spadafora!

    Interesting note tho', Uncle Jeff Mayweather just recently stated in a write-up this week that boxing nowadays is the furthest from his nephew's mind...

    Another one of those "Mayweather" gospel truths I guess... the kind that runs contrary with reality all the time.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    I dont get how most people thought that Berto was better for Pac than Mosley, but to some the thought of Mayweather fighting the man who beat Berto is terrible.

    Also i've no idea about the authenticity of it but a quick google search suggests Roger Mayweather say's Floyd has a 'deal' with the Cowboy's stadiums owner.

    Mayweather Targets Miguel Cotto, Victor Ortiz for Tune-Up Fight ...

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    I think it would be a fun fight to watch actually. I think Floyd would win, but i expect Ortiz to keep coming after him. So when the hell does Floyd plan on fighting Manny, Summer of 2012? Let's get it on already!!

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeH View Post
    I dont get how most people thought that Berto was better for Pac than Mosley, but to some the thought of Mayweather fighting the man who beat Berto is terrible.

    Also i've no idea about the authenticity of it but a quick google search suggests Roger Mayweather say's Floyd has a 'deal' with the Cowboy's stadiums owner.

    Mayweather Targets Miguel Cotto, Victor Ortiz for Tune-Up Fight ...
    If Mayweather agreed to fight Pacquiao in the second negotiation instead of taking a vacation, then there would not have been a need for another tune-up.

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    to soon for ortiz I think, give the kid a couple more big fights but not against mayweather yet. Who knows tho ortiz is a tough fucker, call him a quiter for the maidana fight but he was kded three times and taking some hellacious shots. Either ortiz would manage to pull off something close to a miracle and beat floyd into submission, or the more likely scenario is floyd does his usual and wins a ud.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeH View Post
    I dont get how most people thought that Berto was better for Pac than Mosley, but to some the thought of Mayweather fighting the man who beat Berto is terrible.

    Also i've no idea about the authenticity of it but a quick google search suggests Roger Mayweather say's Floyd has a 'deal' with the Cowboy's stadiums owner.

    Mayweather Targets Miguel Cotto, Victor Ortiz for Tune-Up Fight ...
    If Mayweather agreed to fight Pacquiao in the second negotiation instead of taking a vacation, then there would not have been a need for another tune-up.



    You mean if Pac agreed to the test......

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    This Ortiz purported fight is all but a temperature check.... IMO.

    A second one... if counting the Spadafora check as first... There is a danger to this tho, for if this nonesense of a fight somehow find a way to buy wheels, then the "little rascal" will have earned again himself millions without a sweat, courtesy of the smoke buying public, which also effectively and cunningly sidesteps the real fight that has public clamor. We all know what that fight is, and it's not the one against Spadafora!

    Interesting note tho', Uncle Jeff Mayweather just recently stated in a write-up this week that boxing nowadays is the furthest from his nephew's mind...

    Another one of those "Mayweather" gospel truths I guess... the kind that runs contrary with reality all the time.
    that is one of my worries though. if people start buying this one as a floyd tune-up for the big one and it does well financially, i have this creeping feeling we'll hear another retirement announcement from him afterwards.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    We need to keep perspective on taking a Ortiz, who was giving little chance to get by Berto and kinda dismissed in career. He won that fight on resurgent grit, straight shots and heart along with Berto choking and there to have glaring flaws exposed all along. Great win and deserves mega payday but this is again Floyd riding Mannys media coat tails and Floyd picking through the pieces to keep his name in the now. Ortiz is still Ortiz in style and flaws himself. I think Floyd plays with him and then thumps his own chest the loudest, again.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser View Post
    that is one of my worries though. if people start buying this one as a floyd tune-up for the big one and it does well financially, i have this creeping feeling we'll hear another retirement announcement from him afterwards.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Say what you want about this, but it's a hell of a lot more legit than Pac/Mosley. Ortiz is a good young fighter, arguably in his prime and riding a huge win. Mosley was outclassed by Mayweather and put up such a horrible performance against Mora that even the biggest Mosley fans believe he's washed up.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, 2011. What do you make of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Say what you want about this, but it's a hell of a lot more legit than Pac/Mosley. Ortiz is a good young fighter, arguably in his prime and riding a huge win. Mosley was outclassed by Mayweather and put up such a horrible performance against Mora that even the biggest Mosley fans believe he's washed up.
    I honestly feel Mosley would have beaten up Berto to. Ortiz deserves the big fight.....Mayweather needs to stop jerking his fans around I believe.

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