Pacquiao vs. Mosley - Fight Night talk!

[DaxxKahn]

cotto/mosely. Pac is either slowing down - pace wise or he can't cope with movement....

I just think he is going in more rounded and not just doing the regular non stop punching we are used to seeing...I really think he is giving Mosley too much respect at this point....Manny fights Freddie tells him how and Manny carries it out like General in Battle

it's the whirlwind approach that got him where he is and what dropped ssm - he's not a cute boxer.

he is upping the pace in bursts now if he maintained it he would have got him out.

Yeah you can see his output picking up for sure!!!

You don't think though over the last few bouts Manny is becoming more complete as a fighter? He uses more angles, paces himself more, better defense etc...He knows that he is aging and can't keep the super speed mode forever especially if he keeps fighting bigger men

[DaxxKahn]

That was a slip!!!!!! Wtf!!~! Now he will go in for the kill

[Howlin Mad Missy]

cotto/mosely. Pac is either slowing down - pace wise or he can't cope with movement....

I just think he is going in more rounded and not just doing the regular non stop punching we are used to seeing...I really think he is giving Mosley too much respect at this point....Manny fights Freddie tells him how and Manny carries it out like General in Battle

it's the whirlwind approach that got him where he is and what dropped ssm - he's not a cute boxer.

he is upping the pace in bursts now if he maintained it he would have got him out.

Yeah you can see his output picking up for sure!!!

You don't think though over the last few bouts Manny is becoming more complete as a fighter? He uses more angles, paces himself more, better defense etc...He knows that he is aging and can't keep the super speed mode forever especially if he keeps fighting bigger men

you tell me - start of rd 11

[DaxxKahn]

cotto/mosely. Pac is either slowing down - pace wise or he can't cope with movement....

I just think he is going in more rounded and not just doing the regular non stop punching we are used to seeing...I really think he is giving Mosley too much respect at this point....Manny fights Freddie tells him how and Manny carries it out like General in Battle

it's the whirlwind approach that got him where he is and what dropped ssm - he's not a cute boxer.

he is upping the pace in bursts now if he maintained it he would have got him out.

Yeah you can see his output picking up for sure!!!

You don't think though over the last few bouts Manny is becoming more complete as a fighter? He uses more angles, paces himself more, better defense etc...He knows that he is aging and can't keep the super speed mode forever especially if he keeps fighting bigger men

you tell me - start of rd 11

Only time will tell

[Master]

poor fight, pac man fought at Shanes pace.

[Gandalf]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

[ICB]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I thought MAB done better than Mosley though, i had him winning 3 rounds if i remember rightly.

But yea poor effort from Mosley, he actually touched Pacquiao's gloves more than he hit him LOL.

[killersheep]

Mosley did have success with the armpit up push in the clinch, he should have done that more.

[Gandalf]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I thought MAB done better than Mosley though, i had him winning 3 rounds if i remember rightly.

But yea poor effort from Mosley, he actually touched Pacquiao's gloves more than he hit him LOL.

Barrera did. Unless you are Margarito it seems that Pac has that mental edge from the go at these weights. Nobody outside of Marquez is willing to box him smartly with conviction.

On the way up people thought they could trade with him, now it's gone the other way and it's a case of not being willing to throw your own punches whatsoever. Well, not quite true Margarito gave it a fair shot, he just didn't have the skills.

[marbleheadmaui]

I gaven't read the thread and don't know what you guys thought but here's what I saw:
1. An overmatched Shane realized he was over matched.
2. Shane stopped being able to let his hands go 18 months ago
3. Manny's worst performance since before the Diaz fight. Lousy balance, on one foot way to often, wild right hand, fighting in a straight line. It was the old Manny.
4. Manny's will and desire remain undiminished and startling

My big question is the following. Did Manny overtrain (a risk in older fighters) or has Father Time really begun to make an impact on him?

[fan johnny]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I agree it was a horrible fight. It went like a lot of Floyd's fights. But it doesn't reflect on a damn thing except what Mosley was incapable of. I think he caught the Clottey syndrome.

As far as Pac picking opponents, it's more a reflection on Top Rank. We all know who's next in line. I think the only chance for Floyd to get the big money fight with Pac is to step up to the plate now because I think there won't be any more opportunity in the future. Floyd will be kicking himself for not taking the last offer till he reaches his grave.

[Shesh]

One has to take Bella Gonzalez from Mosley and give to a real man.

[Pavlik]

One has to take Bella Gonzalez from Mosley and give to a real man.

i want to sad click you right now

[Pavlik]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I agree it was a horrible fight. It went like a lot of Floyd's fights. But it doesn't reflect on a damn thing except what Mosley was incapable of. I think he caught the Clottey syndrome.

As far as Pac picking opponents, it's more a reflection on Top Rank. We all know who's next in line. I think the only chance for Floyd to get the big money fight with Pac is to step up to the plate now because I think there won't be any more opportunity in the future. Floyd will be kicking himself for not taking the last offer till he reaches his grave.

is Marquez next? hopefully its Ortiz or one of the other beltholders so PAC could unify the welters.

[Gandalf]

That was a horrible fight and told us nothing and yes I will be critical. I was supporting Mosley, but criticised this fight time and time again and it has only confirmed to all of us why there was no need for this fight to be signed in the first place.

Mosley used the Barrera 2 model and threw about 7 right hands all night. He circled effectively, but showed that he cannot throw more than a 2 punch combo without running in and holding. Manny Pac merely did what he had to do, he showed us nothing new.

What this has also showed is that Manny Pac is nothing more than an opportunist when it comes to matchmaking. A cheater followed by a former great who hasn't won in a number of years.

I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way. Few of us believed that this fight should have been made and the boos in the crowd confirmed why.

It was a very poor fight.

I agree it was a horrible fight. It went like a lot of Floyd's fights. But it doesn't reflect on a damn thing except what Mosley was incapable of. I think he caught the Clottey syndrome.

As far as Pac picking opponents, it's more a reflection on Top Rank. We all know who's next in line. I think the only chance for Floyd to get the big money fight with Pac is to step up to the plate now because I think there won't be any more opportunity in the future. Floyd will be kicking himself for not taking the last offer till he reaches his grave.

Clottey was a punching machine compared to this version of Mosley. Mosley threw only 260 punches against Manny whilst Clottey threw 399. It was an absolute shocker from Shane. I have never seen a top level fighter lose all of their confidence and will like that. He threw the right hand about seven times in the fight and refused to unglue it from his chin.

Surely he has to retire now. There is nowhere for him to go and he is obviously a long way down the totem pole. Judging on how he has been in the comeback off the 18 month layoff I think he has slipped a lot physically. The signs were there with Mayorga, but there is little room for doubt now. He still has a good boxing brain, going 12 with Manny is achievement enough, but unlike someone like Cotto, Mosley was never really in the fight or posed a threat. He might have edged round 1, but a shut out from then on. The late KD was a mistake.