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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.

    Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.
    There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.

    Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.
    There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.
    Or is willing to come down to 140. It's not as though he is boiling down to 147.

    Marquez in the fall at 140. Only at 140 though, Marquez would be coming up in weight already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.

    Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.
    There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.
    Or is willing to come down to 140. It's not as though he is boiling down to 147.

    Marquez in the fall at 140. Only at 140 though, Marquez would be coming up in weight already.
    Im bit worried for my boy JMM, because he's getting marked up alot now. And he's been getting dropped and hurt, the man is a warrior and is my favourite current fighter. I also think he beat Pacquiao twice, but i would be really worried about him fighting Pacquiao at this point.

    But he certainly would give a much better performance, than Mosley did whether he wins or loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.

    Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.
    There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.
    Or is willing to come down to 140. It's not as though he is boiling down to 147.

    Marquez in the fall at 140. Only at 140 though, Marquez would be coming up in weight already.
    Im bit worried for my boy JMM, because he's getting marked up alot now. And he's been getting dropped and hurt, the man is a warrior and is my favourite current fighter. I also think he beat Pacquiao twice, but i would be really worried about him fighting Pacquiao at this point.

    But he certainly would give a much better performance, than Mosley did whether he wins or loses.
    Even if Manny is fading, it is hard to see the JMM who struggled with Diaz and got dropped by Katsidis having a way to win that fight.
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    Pac weighed in at 145, I dont think 140 is out of the question. I think Khan is too hitable and Bradley doesnt have the pop to make Pac wary. The only fight that is really out there for Pac that seems like it could be a test is Floyd. Here we go again....I really hope Arum doesnt put Cotto back in there. Victor Ortiz?...I think that would be a early ko, just too reckless. Maybe Saul Alvarez.....dont think he could deal with the onslaught, he lacks defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Pac weighed in at 145, I dont think 140 is out of the question. I think Khan is too hitable and Bradley doesnt have the pop to make Pac wary. The only fight that is really out there for Pac that seems like it could be a test is Floyd. Here we go again....I really hope Arum doesnt put Cotto back in there. Victor Ortiz?...I think that would be a early ko, just too reckless. Maybe Saul Alvarez.....dont think he could deal with the onslaught, he lacks defense.
    any natural 147 pounder is a legitimate threat I think. If the PBF fight does not happen hopefully PAC unifies the welters.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao vs. Mosley - Fight Night talk!

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Pac weighed in at 145, I dont think 140 is out of the question. I think Khan is too hitable and Bradley doesnt have the pop to make Pac wary. The only fight that is really out there for Pac that seems like it could be a test is Floyd. Here we go again....I really hope Arum doesnt put Cotto back in there. Victor Ortiz?...I think that would be a early ko, just too reckless. Maybe Saul Alvarez.....dont think he could deal with the onslaught, he lacks defense.
    140 isn't out of the question. he is a 140 pound fighter that eats normally and doens't dehydrate before fights. I have no idea what he weighed tonight but his other fights at welter, he only weighed around 148-149 when entering the ring. That is less than some junior welters in their fights. Heck, Brandon Rios weighed 151 in the ring for one of his last fights at 135.

    Pac could make 140 with ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.

    Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.
    There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.
    Or takes a suicide mission to become an immortal by trying to beat the reigning middle king, Sergio Martinez!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.

    Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.

    There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights
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    True, but there still has to be someone more competitive then Mosley for Pacquiao to fight next. I realize the bottom line in boxing, is making money, but stinkers like the one tonight just hurt boxing.

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    I wake up this morning still mad I paid to see Shane Mosely run and run not willing to fight or counter. It was one of the most despicable showings I can remember. Mosely was there to pick up 1 last big pay day and that was it

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    A couple points/observations about the fight came Pac's future opponents. After the knockdown and the look on Shane's face, it was over. He was just trying not to get knocked out. Mosley is shot, plain and simple. As far as Manny not looking great, it was kinda tough too look great with his style against a guy that was just in there to survive. Now the top fight for Pac is obviously Mayweather, it just won't happen though. So let's look at future opponents... I believe in Pacquiao's agreement with Top Rank there's a minimum amount he has to make for a fight. I think for that big reason is why we'll see him with big names not necessarily the best opponents. The next fight will probably be Marquez. 144 is being thrown around, too high of a weight for Marquez. Manny will get the knockout this time and look good doing it. Then we'll probably have a Cotto rematch because he's the "biggest" name out there. The angle would be Cotto has a real trainer now, Cotto will never be the same after the Margarito fight. Personally I'd like to see him against Ortiz. But we have the whole Golden Boy issue. Hopefully that issue can be solved. For the record there I personally can't stand Golden Boy. Their stealing of fighters has just gotten old, try to develop some talent. Hell, they even stole Ortiz with that bankruptcy nonsense.

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    My guess with this fight is that PAC actually undertrained. He wasn't at his normal -5.5% BF, and even though he had Shane trigger shy, he didn't look as explosive as normal. I do fault heavily to Shane who absolutely ruined that fight for me and all the people that paid for it. I don't think that either way PAC/PBF can be judged based on this fight at all, because it's a one off, not a trend if Manny looks more flat in the next fight then he's declining, otherwise it was an off night (over/under trained, cramps, whatever). What can be said for sure is that Mosley has been declining for some time now and although his performance was disappointing it wasn't unexpected.

    I don't think Pac or his camp really got up for this fight, I mean Roach was in the corner of Abe yesterday as well.
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