Opinion from a "Pactard"

[generalbulldog]

It's not just Manny but Floyd as well in that the bar is set extremely high. Take Sergio Martinez. People were saying he's the new and real top fighter in the sport not Manny and Floyd. And they were defending Martinez possibly fighting Ishida, a C level fighter that is a journeyman that defeated a hot prospect. Then the fight with Sergei Dzinziruk who was a 154 pound fighter was considered to be a great fight against elite comp not like the 2 cherry picking frauds.

Do you know the kind of shit Mayweather and Pac would get for fighting say a Rafal Jackiewicz
or fighting Tim Bradley who's a career 140 pound fighter?

I rest my case.

[Kev]

It's not just Manny but Floyd as well in that the bar is set extremely high. Take Sergio Martinez. People were saying he's the new and real top fighter in the sport not Manny and Floyd. And they were defending Martinez possibly fighting Ishida, a C level fighter that is a journeyman that defeated a hot prospect. Then the fight with Sergei Dzinziruk who was a 154 pound fighter was considered to be a great fight against elite comp not like the 2 cherry picking frauds.

Do you know the kind of shit Mayweather and Pac would get for fighting say a Rafal Jackiewicz
or fighting Tim Bradley who's a career 140 pound fighter?

I rest my case.

Its true mate. Martinez and Donaire get no criticism at all. Martinez defends his 160 lb title against an unranked 154 lb fighter and at a catchweight and not a word of criticism from anyone.

[marbleheadmaui]

It's not just Manny but Floyd as well in that the bar is set extremely high. Take Sergio Martinez. People were saying he's the new and real top fighter in the sport not Manny and Floyd. And they were defending Martinez possibly fighting Ishida, a C level fighter that is a journeyman that defeated a hot prospect. Then the fight with Sergei Dzinziruk who was a 154 pound fighter was considered to be a great fight against elite comp not like the 2 cherry picking frauds.

Do you know the kind of shit Mayweather and Pac would get for fighting say a Rafal Jackiewicz
or fighting Tim Bradley who's a career 140 pound fighter?

I rest my case.

Let's reopen that one for a second. Sergio is stuck because he has ZERO good choices. Just none! I mean that division is as bad as it gets at the moment. I cannot think of a fight that I'd be excited about.

Floyd on the other hand has had, in the last 2-3 years a whole list of reasonable options. Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, Manny, and what has he done? Made JMM move two divisions and fought a badly faded Shane. Manny has in that same period jumped four divisions and taken on a series of highly ranked guys. It ain't the same. You know another guy who has had a whole series of good choices and not done much in the last 2-3 years? Nonito Donaire.

More generally, the lack of depth in the sport at the moment is appalling. How many of the 17 have as many as five quality fighters? 118, 126, 168? Maybe 122 and 135 if you're willing to stretch? Little bit scary.