This is dedicated to ALL of you who said SSM was a worthy opponent...

[miron_lang]

Pac takes off a couple of pounds and Marquez moves up an entire division.

147 down to 140 is not an entire division? Mosley was 147 last night

It makes perfect sense. One man goes up and the other comes down, then the grudge match is on. It is daft to expect Manny to boil down to a weight he might not now be able to perform at and it is equally daft to ask Marquez to jump two divisions again in his mid to late 30's.

If Pac wants to fight Martinez then go for it. I've been reading that Martinez might well come back to 154 because of the lack of big fights at MW. Equal fight as well. One goes up and the other comes down.

It makes perfect sense to you

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy. Marquez is the Lineal Lightweight champion of the WORLD. they should fight at 135 if Pac is going for Legacy. if not depend his belt at 147. its very simple really.

[Gandalf]

Pac takes off a couple of pounds and Marquez moves up an entire division.

147 down to 140 is not an entire division? Mosley was 147 last night

It makes perfect sense. One man goes up and the other comes down, then the grudge match is on. It is daft to expect Manny to boil down to a weight he might not now be able to perform at and it is equally daft to ask Marquez to jump two divisions again in his mid to late 30's.

If Pac wants to fight Martinez then go for it. I've been reading that Martinez might well come back to 154 because of the lack of big fights at MW. Equal fight as well. One goes up and the other comes down.

It makes perfect sense to you

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy. Marquez is the Lineal Lightweight champion of the WORLD. they should fight at 135 if Pac is going for Legacy. if not depend his belt at 147. its very simple really.

But Pac isn't even weighing in at 147. It really is less than a division for him.

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

[miron_lang]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

[Gandalf]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

[Ant Live]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

The answer is . . .
Pacman vs Bradley(at 140 for Bradley's title)
JMM vs Judah(at 140 for Judah's title)

[MMASUX]

There is no way in hell Pac is going down to 135, so i don't understand why you are arguing about it. This fight should be at 140, or as much as i hate catch weights 143.

[Rantcatrat]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

The answer is . . .
Pacman vs Bradley(at 140 for Bradley's title)
JMM vs Judah(at 140 for Judah's title)

Pacquiao v. Bradley at whatever weight - Bradley has won fights at 147. Same goes for Judah who has fought many fights at 147. Judah would be destroyed though. It wouldn't be close. In my opinion, it's Bradley or Marquez.

[Ant Live]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

The answer is . . .
Pacman vs Bradley(at 140 for Bradley's title)
JMM vs Judah(at 140 for Judah's title)

Pacquiao v. Bradley at whatever weight - Bradley has won fights at 147. Same goes for Judah who has fought many fights at 147. Judah would be destroyed though. It wouldn't be close. In my opinion, it's Bradley or Marquez.

AGREE!!!
Point is, that will give Pacman a chance to get comfortable again making weight at 140. Same with JMM. Giving a fight a 140 so he can get comfortable. Then they can meet.

Don't be surprise Manny take on the weak chin and suspect defense in Ortiz.

[Fenster]

Pac fights Marquez at 135 so he can claim another lineal title?

Funny.

I'm sure Pac and his team will seriously consider giving up an advantage over a fighter that has taken him to the wire twice just so boxing nerds can call him a lineal champ. Deary deary me...