This is dedicated to ALL of you who said SSM was a worthy opponent...

[Gandalf]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

[Ant Live]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

The answer is . . .
Pacman vs Bradley(at 140 for Bradley's title)
JMM vs Judah(at 140 for Judah's title)

[MMASUX]

There is no way in hell Pac is going down to 135, so i don't understand why you are arguing about it. This fight should be at 140, or as much as i hate catch weights 143.

[Rantcatrat]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

The answer is . . .
Pacman vs Bradley(at 140 for Bradley's title)
JMM vs Judah(at 140 for Judah's title)

Pacquiao v. Bradley at whatever weight - Bradley has won fights at 147. Same goes for Judah who has fought many fights at 147. Judah would be destroyed though. It wouldn't be close. In my opinion, it's Bradley or Marquez.

[Ant Live]

As for this legacy talk, I don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was for legacy? Margarito? Diaz? He picks and chooses his opponents for money or paper trinkets, on that basis a Marquez fight at 140 makes complete sense. To get the man who many think beat him twice. Otherwise, who is he going to fight? Andre Berto?

Professor Miles is not reading the entire post.

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

No, I understand quite clearly, but even I, as much as I want the advantages to be in favour of Marquez, cannot imagine Manny ever agreeing to fight him at 135. If it were a possibility I would be all for it, but I have a hard time seeing Manny give up two weight classes just to give Marquez every advantage. I just think the only realistic chance of the fight getting made is at 140 and even though it wouldn't be for a belt, I don't think that matters. The names alone will sell the fight. Manny is at the stage now where belts don't matter, but he really does need credible opponents.

The answer is . . .
Pacman vs Bradley(at 140 for Bradley's title)
JMM vs Judah(at 140 for Judah's title)

Pacquiao v. Bradley at whatever weight - Bradley has won fights at 147. Same goes for Judah who has fought many fights at 147. Judah would be destroyed though. It wouldn't be close. In my opinion, it's Bradley or Marquez.

AGREE!!!
Point is, that will give Pacman a chance to get comfortable again making weight at 140. Same with JMM. Giving a fight a 140 so he can get comfortable. Then they can meet.

Don't be surprise Manny take on the weak chin and suspect defense in Ortiz.

[Fenster]

Pac fights Marquez at 135 so he can claim another lineal title?

Funny.

I'm sure Pac and his team will seriously consider giving up an advantage over a fighter that has taken him to the wire twice just so boxing nerds can call him a lineal champ. Deary deary me...

[JazzWolf]

Yeah, I was behind Mosley the whole way and I was disappoint time and time again. I knew Mosley was completely shot when Manny was making crucial mistakes, like overthrowing his right hook, and Mosley, despite making him miss three times, wasn't capitalizing like he did against Margarito. He's one of my favorite boxers but he needs to retire and pass on his legacy or something; don't want to see a legend get hurt/embarrassed anymore.

[Mar]

One thing about boxing you never really know what to expect. We don't even know if shane ever even considered winning this fight. He had to hype it to increase revenue but i doubt he really even belived he could win even though convincing so many he could. But this fight being made in the first place was just plain silly. We'll get crap like this fight more and more till we do it mma style and have the best fight the best. Put this ppv fight up against any of the free fights mma puts on free on spike and see what most choose.