Pacman vs JMM 11/5 2011 at.........145

[miron_lang]

Manny has to eat 10,000 calories and eat like a whale in order to hit these marks of 145lbs. It's just an excuse to make JMM fight at a disadvantage. Manny could just eat like a normal human and fight at a weight he wouldn't have to gorge at.

Valid point.

but the problem is. Pacquiao as general knowledge plans on staying at Welterweight and has been 144-145 range at the scales. If he drops for a single fight say at 140 then the routine will be disrupted.

Yeah its a little sacrifice if we intend to satisfy some forum posters who would love to see him lose. but the reality is he could really be affected not just in the one fight that he will take at 140 BUT after this fight when he needs to be 145 again. see the point?


and the heck he needs to do all this against someone who has been chasing him for but not limited to a payday to add that he had already beaten this fighter makes it EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS




1. Roy looks inhuman at 175 went North and beat a Heavyweight went back and got kayoed silly by men not even worth to be mentioned along him legacy wise.

2. Chrys Byrd Went up went down and looks garbage in an embarrasing KO loss.

3. SRL looks out of it going down from his previous bout againts Terry Norris.


** Both men will be 145 to 148 fight night **

[mafiajoey]

Manny has to eat 10,000 calories and eat like a whale in order to hit these marks of 145lbs. It's just an excuse to make JMM fight at a disadvantage. Manny could just eat like a normal human and fight at a weight he wouldn't have to gorge at.

Valid point.

but the problem is. Pacquiao as general knowledge plans on staying at Welterweight and has been 144-145 range at the scales. If he drops for a single fight say at 140 then the routine will be disrupted.

Yeah its a little sacrifice if we intend to satisfy some forum posters who would love to see him lose. but the reality is he could really be affected not just in the one fight that he will take at 140 BUT after this fight when he needs to be 145 again. see the point?


and the heck he needs to do all this against someone who has been chasing him for but not limited to a payday to add that he had already beaten this fighter makes it EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS




1. Roy looks inhuman at 175 went North and beat a Heavyweight went back and got kayoed silly by men not even worth to be mentioned along him legacy wise.

2. Chrys Byrd Went up went down and looks garbage in an embarrasing KO loss.

3. SRL looks out of it going down from his previous bout againts Terry Norris.


** Both men will be 145 to 148 fight night **

Pac struggles to make 144-145......he eats like 500lb Gorilla.....its hard for him to make that weight. Pac struggles to make 144-145 lets remember that. All this "He's a natural welterweight talk 147" is bullshit. He has a story for the weight that best suits him and gives him the advantage. He has the power to require this.



Pacquiao-134 Diaz-135 (weigh in) Pacquiao-147 Diaz-148 (fight night) 06-2008

Pacquiao-142 Delahoya-145 (weigh in) Pacquiao-148 Delahoya-147 (fight night) 12-2008

Pacquiao-138 Hatton-140 (weigh in) Pacquiao-148 Hatton-152 (fight night) 05-2009

Pacquiao-144 Cotto-145 (weigh in) Fight night weight..? 11-2009

Pacquiao-145 Clottey-147 (weigh in) Fight night...? 03-2010

Pacquiao-144.5 Marg-150


Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

[IamInuit]

Manny has to eat 10,000 calories and eat like a whale in order to hit these marks of 145lbs. It's just an excuse to make JMM fight at a disadvantage. Manny could just eat like a normal human and fight at a weight he wouldn't have to gorge at.

Valid point.

but the problem is. Pacquiao as general knowledge plans on staying at Welterweight and has been 144-145 range at the scales. If he drops for a single fight say at 140 then the routine will be disrupted.

Yeah its a little sacrifice if we intend to satisfy some forum posters who would love to see him lose. but the reality is he could really be affected not just in the one fight that he will take at 140 BUT after this fight when he needs to be 145 again. see the point?


and the heck he needs to do all this against someone who has been chasing him for but not limited to a payday to add that he had already beaten this fighter makes it EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS




1. Roy looks inhuman at 175 went North and beat a Heavyweight went back and got kayoed silly by men not even worth to be mentioned along him legacy wise.

2. Chrys Byrd Went up went down and looks garbage in an embarrasing KO loss.

3. SRL looks out of it going down from his previous bout againts Terry Norris.


** Both men will be 145 to 148 fight night **

Pac struggles to make 144-145......he eats like 500lb Gorilla.....its hard for him to make that weight. Pac struggles to make 144-145 lets remember that. All this "He's a natural welterweight talk 147" is bullshit. He has a story for the weight that best suits him and gives him the advantage. He has the power to require this.



Pacquiao-134 Diaz-135 (weigh in) Pacquiao-147 Diaz-148 (fight night) 06-2008

Pacquiao-142 Delahoya-145 (weigh in) Pacquiao-148 Delahoya-147 (fight night) 12-2008

Pacquiao-138 Hatton-140 (weigh in) Pacquiao-148 Hatton-152 (fight night) 05-2009

Pacquiao-144 Cotto-145 (weigh in) Fight night weight..? 11-2009

Pacquiao-145 Clottey-147 (weigh in) Fight night...? 03-2010

Pacquiao-144.5 Marg-150


Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

Excellent post.

[miron_lang]

Valid point.

but the problem is. Pacquiao as general knowledge plans on staying at Welterweight and has been 144-145 range at the scales. If he drops for a single fight say at 140 then the routine will be disrupted.

Yeah its a little sacrifice if we intend to satisfy some forum posters who would love to see him lose. but the reality is he could really be affected not just in the one fight that he will take at 140 BUT after this fight when he needs to be 145 again. see the point?


and the heck he needs to do all this against someone who has been chasing him for but not limited to a payday to add that he had already beaten this fighter makes it EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS




1. Roy looks inhuman at 175 went North and beat a Heavyweight went back and got kayoed silly by men not even worth to be mentioned along him legacy wise.

2. Chrys Byrd Went up went down and looks garbage in an embarrasing KO loss.

3. SRL looks out of it going down from his previous bout againts Terry Norris.


** Both men will be 145 to 148 fight night **

Excellent post.

Thanks!

[miron_lang]

Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

You know that for sure?


Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Even Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to 160 to fight the B-Side opponent in Hagler.


You want Pacquiao to do something that has never been done in this SPORT WTF you guys realize that dont you?

[mafiajoey]

Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

You know that for sure?


Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Even Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to 160 to fight the B-Side opponent in Hagler.


You want Pacquiao to do something that has never been done in this SPORT WTF you guys realize that dont you?

Yes I know for sure his routine won't be affected or they wouldn't allow him to do it,

Yes I know he can jump up and down from weight with no issue because the below weights and dates prove it.

Pacquiao-134 Diaz-135 (weigh in) Pacquiao-147 Diaz-148 (fight night) 06-2008

Pacquiao-142 Delahoya-145 (weigh in) Pacquiao-148 Delahoya-147 (fight night) 12-2008

Pacquiao-138 Hatton-140 (weigh in) Pacquiao-148 Hatton-152 (fight night) 05-2009

Pacquiao-144 Cotto-145 (weigh in) Fight night weight..? 11-2009

Pacquiao-145 Clottey-147 (weigh in) Fight night...? 03-2010

Pacquiao-144.5 Marg-150



I understand he has the leverage to have his way with demands (God Forbid Floyd Have A Demand LOL)

What I don't understand is why your acting like a Pactard....because you said in your first response it will affect his routine. So I showed you where he has done it before...see above. But just like Pac does himself you have now changed it to something else.........was it his performance being affected (no proved that with the record) or is it who is the bigger champion? Which one is it....? Sound like Pac himself with another excuse on top of an excuse. And if you want to make it about "Name Recognition" Oscar came down to fight Manny and I have a feeling at that time.....Uh..Oscar was the as you put it......"Bigger Named Champion"

EPIC FAIL BACK TO PACLAND........



And for the record before this wishy washy started ranting and changing his story and adding more to my reply here is the deal.......

Manny has to eat like the 3 "Fat Boys" at that "All You Can Eat" Buffet to make it even near the 147. Thats why he fights for a 154 title and weighs in at 144.5. So all I'm saying is either man up Manny and just say your going to flex your power and do as you wish or stop B.Sing with all your different B.S. weight stories.



For your viewing pleasure......







Min 2:13 is classic....R.I.P. to "The Human Beatbox"

[miron_lang]

And if you want to make it about "Name Recognition" Oscar came down to fight Manny and I have a feeling at that time.....Uh..Oscar was the as you put it......"Bigger Named Champion"

EPIC FAIL BACK TO PACLAND........

LOL


I expected that.


tell me which you did not get?

Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Maybe you need help.

Oscar Dela Hoya did not go down to 147 to fight Manny Pacquiao. Oscar is planning to go to 147 even before Pacquiao fought Diaz. Oscar after the loss to Hopkins plans to campaigh at 147 again Pls dont ask me for links


In my estimation Oscar plans on taking Cotto if he wins againts Margarito but Cotto lost and Pac beat Diaz.

[mafiajoey]

Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

You know that for sure?


Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Even Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to 160 to fight the B-Side opponent in Hagler.


You want Pacquiao to do something that has never been done in this SPORT WTF you guys realize that dont you?

This was from your mouth....

Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

[miron_lang]

This was from your mouth....

Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post

By going down it means Pac is going for legacy.

My point is. If Pac agrees to go down it means he's going for Legacy. 140 doesnt make sense it should be 135 for Juan's Title. Why are you arguing about 135? that is Marquez's current weight right? he has zero fight at 140. so what's the problem with Lightweight?

"By going down" <======

Is he going down by weighing 144-145lbs?


*Let me help you. The post you quoted means going down to 140. but why go down to 140 if you're going down for legacy. go to 135 if you are indeed going for legacy.

No matter how you bombard it with bollocks Lineal titles are the goods. if you worry about kids today reading boxing history in the future.

[mafiajoey]

Now your at the equivalent to when Pac responds to fan who asks about drug test. Pac says hes all natural.

See....it worked, you were able to totally go off subject like Pac does. Each time I respond to something you go off on something else. Just like Arum and Pac do..

We all know Pac can fight at 140-142 with no issues. Nothing will "affect the routine" etc.... go back and read your own shit.



All I hear is rebuttals that equal excuses....same as Pac

[miron_lang]

Now your at the equivalent to when Pac responds to fan who asks about drug test. Pac says hes all natural.

See....it worked, you were able to totally go off subject like Pac does. Each time I respond to something you go off on something else. Just like Arum and Pac do..

We all know Pac can fight at 140-142 with no issues. Nothing will "affect the routine" etc.... go back and read your own shit.



All I hear is rebuttals that equal excuses....same as Pac

WTF


My reply to your post is exactly the answer to your question.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

You know that for sure?


Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Even Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to 160 to fight the B-Side opponent in Hagler.


You want Pacquiao to do something that has never been done in this SPORT WTF you guys realize that dont you?

there are plenty of examples

Mayweather dropped down from 154 to 147 after capturing his title against DLH to fight Hatton

hell Manny just dropped down from 150 (cause he wont fight a guy at a full weight limit unless they're shot) to fight Dusty Shane Mosley at 147

so stop your babbling and making excuses as to why Manny wouldn't be able to do what he's asked every one of his opponents

[miron_lang]

Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

You know that for sure?


Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Even Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to 160 to fight the B-Side opponent in Hagler.


You want Pacquiao to do something that has never been done in this SPORT WTF you guys realize that dont you?

there are plenty of examples

Mayweather dropped down from 154 to 147 after capturing his title against DLH to fight Hatton

hell Manny just dropped down from 150 (cause he wont fight a guy at a full weight limit unless they're shot) to fight Dusty Shane Mosley at 147

so stop your babbling and making excuses as to why Manny wouldn't be able to do what he's asked every one of his opponents

Yeah. You got me



But Hatton is arguably not a B-Side opponent.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Not buying his routine will be affected. Look at the jump from Delahoya then Hatton then Cotto. Pac makes 140-142 easily. Or he cuts back on his calories. He did it for Hatton.

You know that for sure?


Can you give an example in the history of this SPORT where the Bigger named Champion being chased in the higher weight moved down for the B-Side opponent?

Even Sugar Ray Leonard moved up to 160 to fight the B-Side opponent in Hagler.


You want Pacquiao to do something that has never been done in this SPORT WTF you guys realize that dont you?

there are plenty of examples

Mayweather dropped down from 154 to 147 after capturing his title against DLH to fight Hatton

hell Manny just dropped down from 150 (cause he wont fight a guy at a full weight limit unless they're shot) to fight Dusty Shane Mosley at 147

so stop your babbling and making excuses as to why Manny wouldn't be able to do what he's asked every one of his opponents

Yeah. You got me



But Hatton is arguably not a B-Side opponent.

and a shot Mosley isn't?

[miron_lang]

and a shot Mosley isn't?

150 down to 147 to fight Mosley is what makes my statement wrong.


Hatton can be argued as not a B-Side opponent because of his Zealot Fans.