"roach admits fear in marquez trilogy"

[Hornfinger]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

[Gandalf]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

[Mars_ax]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

A catchweight of 145 isn't all that bad, miles old boy, it's not like when Marquez fought Mayweather who was a much bigger man, Pac and JMM would be closer to the same size. I mean the catchweight of 145 might be a small advantage for Pacquiao, but I don't see 'weight' making a huge difference or being all that significant in this fight.

For what it's worth, I believe Pacquiao demolishes Marquez, whether it's at 140 or 145, it's not going to be any 'weight' issue that's going to be Marquez's main problem.

[Gandalf]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

A catchweight of 145 isn't all that bad, miles old boy, it's not like when Marquez fought Mayweather who was a much bigger man, Pac and JMM would be closer to the same size. I mean the catchweight of 145 might be a small advantage for Pacquiao, but I don't see 'weight' making a huge difference or being all that significant in this fight.

For what it's worth, I believe Pacquiao demolishes Marquez, whether it's at 140 or 145, it's not going to be any 'weight' issue that's going to be Marquez's main problem.

The Mayweather CW was the same thing. It is to lure Marquez in and stop him and for Manny to say "There you go Floyd I could stop him at this weight, but you couldn't!". It is bullshit.

[Mars_ax]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

A catchweight of 145 isn't all that bad, miles old boy, it's not like when Marquez fought Mayweather who was a much bigger man, Pac and JMM would be closer to the same size. I mean the catchweight of 145 might be a small advantage for Pacquiao, but I don't see 'weight' making a huge difference or being all that significant in this fight.

For what it's worth, I believe Pacquiao demolishes Marquez, whether it's at 140 or 145, it's not going to be any 'weight' issue that's going to be Marquez's main problem.

The Mayweather CW was the same thing. It is to lure Marquez in and stop him and for Manny to say "There you go Floyd I could stop him at this weight, but you couldn't!". It is bullshit.

I kind doubt that the things Pacquiao and his camp do in re: Marquez, have a fucking thing to do with Mayweather.

[mafiajoey]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

A catchweight of 145 isn't all that bad, miles old boy, it's not like when Marquez fought Mayweather who was a much bigger man, Pac and JMM would be closer to the same size. I mean the catchweight of 145 might be a small advantage for Pacquiao, but I don't see 'weight' making a huge difference or being all that significant in this fight.

For what it's worth, I believe Pacquiao demolishes Marquez, whether it's at 140 or 145, it's not going to be any 'weight' issue that's going to be Marquez's main problem.

The Mayweather CW was the same thing. It is to lure Marquez in and stop him and for Manny to say "There you go Floyd I could stop him at this weight, but you couldn't!". It is bullshit.

I kind doubt that the things Pacquiao and his camp do in re: Marquez, have a fucking thing to do with Mayweather.

The goal is to beat people Mayweather beat and do it in better fashion....of course after Floyd crushed them mentally by beating them to begin with. Marquez is the exception. Floyd didn't crush the warriors spirit.

But after Manny Ko's him it will be a Pactard new line to use against Floyd.


P.S. your previous post before this one was dead on! I agree 100% with you. 140 or 145 or any weight Pac wins easy. But it's about making it a fair contest so that it's exciting. Manny goes in and it's won on the contract, scale and everything else before it begins.

[marbleheadmaui]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

But getting Manny to weigh-in at 140 has no impact. It means Manny foregoes a meal and doesn't drink for 12 hours. He makes it without any strain. I think your idea fails unless the fight is at 135. I think 140 or 144 is the same fight.

BTW I LOVE debating mutually unprovable ideas

[mafiajoey]

My question would be

Why fight marquez now, after he's aged a bit been through more tough fights including a humilation from mayweather, when you could have done this years ago when marquez was still prime?

Haha, is that a serious question?

You know why he has been selected and was prepared even before Mosley was done over. Marquez is the perfect Pacquiao opponent. Had there been some give in the weight I would have given it a chance, but as it stands, the fight is a hoax. You fight him when he is old and then call him to duty two weights above the weight he is decent at?

My 140 proposal is fair. This is a farce.

But getting Manny to weigh-in at 140 has no impact. It means Manny foregoes a meal and doesn't drink for 12 hours. He makes it without any strain. I think your idea fails unless the fight is at 135. I think 140 or 144 is the same fight.

BTW I LOVE debating mutually unprovable ideas

His actual calorie intake is over 7,000 it just means he doesn't have to eat 1200 Chicken Nuggets....He can eat 600. Either way gives him more time to do other things then the 12 hours he probably spends at the dinner table each day.


Why do people act like its hard for Manny to make 140? He weighs in at 143-144 and that's after clearing out a buffet table 7 times a day. He probably makes 135 with ease

[Master]

Roach is building the hype, I am not a fan of this fight, Floyd should never have fought JMM at this weight and neither should Pac.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Roach is full of shit.

[Snakey]

Just finished watching JMM vs Pac 2. If this fight happens, I think everyone is selling JMM short. JMM looked shit vs Mayweather...mayweather isnt pac. Hes a completely different style, Mayweather is the master boxer and JMM was made to look like the brawler. Well against Pac, JMM is the master boxer and Pac is the brawler. I dont think Pac has changed all that much. I think hes very similar to what he was back then with some improvements. But he does still lunge, he will occasionally stand in front of you, he will try and throw the lead left hand, still lunges with the right hook BUT bigger fighters werent use to this. I think one of the main factors is that Pac managed to keep the stamina to do all of that, all of the movement. Show me someone at 140 that bounces around like pac? So much movement and speed, these guys never knew what hit them. JMM on the other hand, been there done that. He wont be surprised, he will be use to pacs punching habits (lead left, leaping right, straight left to the body) and will be able to use that to his advantage. Its one thing to study Pac and another to fight him, JMM has done both twice. He may well just know how to fight pac.