Quote Originally Posted by badr_hari View Post

Well if the part in bold means P4P, than it makes sense, since we can talk about pure skills, not about what they have accomplished. Size advantage aside, Hopkins outclasses Martinez almost in every skill element, so its not like Martinez can be put above him even with this criteria.

Its equally subjective. But with that criteria. Hopkins beats Martinez now at 168.

Heck. (2001) 160lbs Hopkins totally destroys (2011) 160lbs Sergio Martinez. I dont think anybody will argue with that.