WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[Hornfinger]

Hornfinger

You're still upset cuz I destroyed you a couple of pages ago I understand that.

Destroyed you a couple of pages he said.

Where are those pages? Does those pages have evidence that Pac used steroids?

Go fetch lil' doggie. Arf! arf!

Here you go pactard, seeing as you were were too stupid to read it 1st time. what is with having to reapeat posts over and over for pactards?

Joeygotfingered,

I'm still waiting for that "Pac on PEDs" proof.

Where the fuck is it?

Yes lets only blood test athletes when we already have proof of them juicing. My God that is FUCKING genius that is. That is the cleverest idea ever! You know that's such an intelligent thing to say I'm sure the people over at MENSA will be beating down your door to get you on board. I mean shit. Let's bring that in at the olympics, the only athletes that will be tested will be the ones that we already have proof of using steroids. It's a good job Einstein is dead cuz he'd be shitting himself right now with boffins like you around. The brains at NASA pale in comparison to your superior logic.......


Sarcasm aside....

As I said in another thread. This argument is the silliest most retarded thing that you can grasp at. It dumb, stupid, idiotic, moronic.... I could go on all day...

Testing solves everything. It gives proof either way. Pacfans should be wanting their hero to take the tests so you can rub it in our faces that he's clean as a whistle. You don't want him taking the tests cuz you have your doubts. I find that funny.

Mak sure you call me daddy from now on, ok little girl.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Hornfinger

You're still upset cuz I destroyed you a couple of pages ago I understand that.

Destroyed you a couple of pages he said.

Where are those pages? Does those pages have evidence that Pac used steroids?

Go fetch lil' doggie. Arf! arf!

Here you go pactard, seeing as you were were too stupid to read it 1st time. what is with having to reapeat posts over and over for pactards?

I don't see hornfinger destroying anybody in these posts. The only thing I see destroyed is his reputation. Oh, my mistake. He has none you say.

And I don't think he should be calling anyone 'stupid'. He already owns that.

[Hornfinger]

Hornfinger

You're still upset cuz I destroyed you a couple of pages ago I understand that.

Destroyed you a couple of pages he said.

Where are those pages? Does those pages have evidence that Pac used steroids?

Go fetch lil' doggie. Arf! arf!

Here you go pactard, seeing as you were were too stupid to read it 1st time. what is with having to reapeat posts over and over for pactards?

I don't see hornfinger destroying anybody in these posts. The only thing I see destroyed is his reputation. Oh, my mistake. He has none you say.

And I don't think he should be calling anyone 'stupid'. He already owns that.

HAHAHAHA The only thing that's been established is that you can't read!

If I've destroyed nothing in my last reply to you how came you've dodged the three main points of may arguement yet again? Hysterical. Are you choosing to ignore it because you can't read it or cuz you have no answer to it. I think it is a combination of the former and the later.

[cnote111]

@Horn - Can you give me a quick point breakdown, i'm lost to what point you currently trying to make?

The thread is huge and tons of back and forth... So the important stuff is like a needle in a hay stack right now...

[Hornfinger]

@Horn - Can you give me a quick point breakdown, i'm lost to what point you currently trying to make?

The thread is huge and tons of back and forth... So the important stuff is like a needle in a hay stack right now...

yup no problem mate

i maintain my arguement because not one of you pactards have been able to put a dent in it. Not one little bit.

pac hasn't passed a blood test so i don't know if he's clean (and that goes for every other athlete who hasn't passed random testing) sorry his word isn't good enough for me.

testing in the sport is out of date and not good enough

nevada state athletic commission don't do a good enough job and don't have the funding to do proper testing on athletes (thanks for backing up that point fanfuck johnny)


i cannot make it any plainer or simpler than that.

please read through this properly before coming up with another stupid reply that will mearly require me copying and pasting a section of this into another post and making you look like even more of a retard than you already are.

That is my stance. And in my opinion no one has given me any good reason or argument why I should change that point of view.

Fan johnny has given some good arguements.

PSL has been a tyopical blinkered pac fan and put forward some absolutely stupid points

Neutral corner keeps saying i'm discredited but instead of actually saying how or why I'm discredited he starts talking about floyd mayweather.

That is the small and skinny of it thus far.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

pac hasn't passed a blood test so i don't know if he's clean (and that goes for every other athlete who hasn't passed random testing) sorry his word isn't good enough for me.

Not true. Manny has passed all the blood test that was required. If you are talking about the random drug test that Floyd demanded, then you're correct. Manny and almost every boxer out there haven't passed it. But the fault does not lie with Manny anymore after the second negotiation since he agreed to it and Floyd is the one who backed out of the fight.

testing in the sport is out of date and not good enough

Even if true, what can you do about it? Until they come up with the updated test, I have to be content with what is in place. If someone is not content with that and thinks all the athletes are dirty, they might as well get their interest out of that sport.

nevada state athletic commission don't do a good enough job and don't have the funding to do proper testing on athletes (thanks for backing up that point fanfuck johnny)

Fan johnny exposed you for not knowing what you are talking about. If the NSAC don't do a good enough job, what can you do about it? Why don't you petition yourself to be their commissioner?

[Hornfinger]

pac hasn't passed a blood test so i don't know if he's clean (and that goes for every other athlete who hasn't passed random testing) sorry his word isn't good enough for me.

Not true. Manny has passed all the blood test that was required. If you are talking about the random drug test that Floyd demanded, then you're correct. Manny and almost every boxer out there haven't passed it. But the fault does not lie with Manny anymore after the second negotiation since he agreed to it and Floyd is the one who backed out of the fight.

testing in the sport is out of date and not good enough

Even if true, what can you do about it? Until they come up with the updated test, I have to be contented with what is in place. If someone is not contented with that and thinks all the athletes are dirty, they might as well get their interest out of that sport.

nevada state athletic commission don't do a good enough job and don't have the funding to do proper testing on athletes (thanks for backing up that point fanfuck johnny)

Fanjohnny exposed you for not knowing what you are talking about. If the NSAC don't do a good enough job, what can you do about it? Why don't you petition yourself to be their commissioner?

Finally!!

I only had to post it 3 times!

Pacs word isn't good enough for me and your reply to that is 'not true' hahahahaha! It's a poor reply to be honest. and you have made no dent in the first point. But yes I am correct, pac and 99.9% of other fighters havn't passed a random test during the run up to a contest and that's why I don't believe they are clean.

So what your saying is if I can't do anything about it I shouldn't care about it. I should just stop talking about it and ignore it? Absolutely pathetic. That might be a great way of life for you but if I have a problem with something I say I have a problem. You just carry on being contented as long as it suits your pacquiao. Just shows you're a pac fan not a boxing fan.

Stay on track. Fan johnny showed us a document that said NSAC couldn't do the testing it wanted to do because lack of funding. Thats a fact. And to me that says testing isn't good enough. And like I said in the last paragraph if I see their being a problem with something I say, even if it does upset blinkered pac fans that live in their pac centered world.

[cnote111]

That is my stance. And in my opinion no one has given me any good reason or argument why I should change that point of view.

Fan johnny has given some good arguements.

PSL has been a tyopical blinkered pac fan and put forward some absolutely stupid points

Neutral corner keeps saying i'm discredited but instead of actually saying how or why I'm discredited he starts talking about floyd mayweather.

That is the small and skinny of it thus far.

Ok, just so i don't muck this up...

This is you:
1. Pac has not passed a blood test along with any other fighter that hasn't taken random blood testing. And for you that causes a great deal of distrust.
2. Drug Testing is out of date
3. NSAC is short on funds to make this better.

My response:
1. Year round olympic style is the closest full proof method. No one in professional boxing has done true olympic year round testing (which i'm for) including PBF. He has had some random blood testing and i'm sure there are other fighters that have had unscheduled blood tests and passed. However with no professional boxer is subject to year round olympic style testing this should not instill instant guilt or lack of trust. It means nothing until the system changes. They are fighters competiting in the current system. No reason to be upset about that, right?
2. Yes, not our problem - We are not competiting
3. Yes, what can anyone do about it?

[Hornfinger]

That is my stance. And in my opinion no one has given me any good reason or argument why I should change that point of view.

Fan johnny has given some good arguements.

PSL has been a tyopical blinkered pac fan and put forward some absolutely stupid points

Neutral corner keeps saying i'm discredited but instead of actually saying how or why I'm discredited he starts talking about floyd mayweather.

That is the small and skinny of it thus far.

Ok, just so i don't muck this up...

This is you:
1. Pac has not passed a blood test along with any other fighter that hasn't taken random blood testing. And for you that causes a great deal of distrust.
2. Drug Testing is out of date
3. NSAC is short on funds to make this better.

My response:
1. Year round olympic style is the closest full proof method. No one in professional boxing has done true olympic year round testing (which i'm for) including PBF. He has had some random blood testing and i'm sure there are other fighters that have had unscheduled blood tests and passed. However with no professional boxer is subject to year round olympic style testing this should not instill instant guilt or lack of trust. It means nothing until the system changes. They are fighters competiting in the current system. No reason to be upset about that, right?
2. Yes, not our problem - We are not competiting
3. Yes, what can anyone do about it?

#

You've been able to do in one post what neutral corner hasn't been able to do for 17 pages, and that is address the points. For that I commend you.

1. I stated in a previous post that floyd and shane were clean for their fight. fights before or after that don't included random testing have a question mark. That is my point of view.

2. No we're not but we are the consumer buying PPVs, gambling etc. We should demand/expect fair and even contests. Just cuz I'm not competing doesn't mean I shouldn't care about fairness etc. It's very easy to be apathetic towards the issue, i choose not to be

3. The boxers can do alot about it. Especially the high profile ones that conduct the big money. If they all start demanding random testing etc you'd see it implemented very quickley. As fans it's obviously alot harder to make your voice heard.

[:::PSL:::]

Hornfinger

You're still upset cuz I destroyed you a couple of pages ago I understand that.

Destroyed you a couple of pages he said.

Where are those pages? Does those pages have evidence that Pac used steroids?

Go fetch lil' doggie. Arf! arf!

Here you go pactard, seeing as you were were too stupid to read it 1st time. what is with having to reapeat posts over and over for pactards?

Joeygotfingered,

I'm still waiting for that "Pac on PEDs" proof.

Where the fuck is it?

Yes lets only blood test athletes when we already have proof of them juicing. My God that is FUCKING genius that is. That is the cleverest idea ever! You know that's such an intelligent thing to say I'm sure the people over at MENSA will be beating down your door to get you on board. I mean shit. Let's bring that in at the olympics, the only athletes that will be tested will be the ones that we already have proof of using steroids. It's a good job Einstein is dead cuz he'd be shitting himself right now with boffins like you around. The brains at NASA pale in comparison to your superior logic.......


Sarcasm aside....

As I said in another thread. This argument is the silliest most retarded thing that you can grasp at. It dumb, stupid, idiotic, moronic.... I could go on all day...

Testing solves everything. It gives proof either way. Pacfans should be wanting their hero to take the tests so you can rub it in our faces that he's clean as a whistle. You don't want him taking the tests cuz you have your doubts. I find that funny.

Mak sure you call me daddy from now on, ok little girl.

Lmfao! How about you, calling me a Master? You're a good lil' doggie.

I ask you ONE question and you come up with all kinds of bullshit. You're just trying to spin things around and come up with weak conclusion.

And you think you are walking all over me with that garbage? You're a fucking joke.

As long as you don't have evidence, you don't have jack shit. Anyone can accuse anyone with something. That's easy. But you need get your head out of your ass and ask yourself "do I have a case". In your situation, YOU HAVE NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH.

Do you comprende cabrona?