WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[Gandalf]

As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.

An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.

[:::PSL:::]

As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.

An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.

Oh bwoy

Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.

Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.

Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.

[Gandalf]

As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.

An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.

Oh bwoy

Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.

Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.

Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.

[fan johnny]

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.

It is not blatantly untrue to say either fighter was the cause of the first failed negotiation. I once refused to drive a car but that doesn't mean, I don't know how to drive. Anyone can continue to quote the original statement and say I don't know how to drive. The fact is, I drive just fine. Someone saying I can't drive, because I once refused to drive is intentionally misleading the point of the subject matter, which is exactly what you do taking about a fight being made between Floyd and Pac. What appears more and more evident is that Mayweather Jr. simply does not want to fight Pacquiao. There is no because argument to the contrary because Floyd is unwilling to even go to the negotiating table.

You keep repeating that Pacquiao doesn't want to take the test but that is a blatant lie according to the NSAC which has stated he has testing clean in every test he is ever taken. And before you start repeating the BS, what they test for is what is on the list of banned substances including tests that fall under the Random testing policy they implemented in 08'. It doesn't matter if they test blood or urine, the fact is they test for what is on the banned list. Having a discussion about any other testing is simply not within the criteria of the rules and not part of the negotiations so it wouldn't be relevant toward making a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.

An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.

Oh bwoy

Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.

Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.

Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. But it appears your hatred had been directed at Manny even after he agreed to the demand. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. Floyd never cared about the fight in the first place, he had been trying to avoid the fight that's why the drug test demand. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. He already agreed to it but you still think that's the stumbling point? Hello!!! We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. Stop living in the past. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test. He just demands the kind of blood test that should be done.

It seems like hornfinger just went on vacation and he sent in a substitution.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.

It is not blatantly untrue to say either fighter was the cause of the first failed negotiation. I once refused to drive a car but that doesn't mean, I don't know how to drive. Anyone can continue to quote the original statement and say I don't know how to drive. The fact is, I drive just fine. Someone saying I can't drive, because I once refused to drive is intentionally misleading the point of the subject matter, which is exactly what you do taking about a fight being made between Floyd and Pac. What appears more and more evident is that Mayweather Jr. simply does not want to fight Pacquiao. There is no because argument to the contrary because Floyd is unwilling to even go to the negotiating table.

You keep repeating that Pacquiao doesn't want to take the test but that is a blatant lie according to the NSAC which has stated he has testing clean in every test he is ever taken. And before you start repeating the BS, what they test for is what is on the list of banned substances including tests that fall under the Random testing policy they implemented in 08'. It doesn't matter if they test blood or urine, the fact is they test for what is on the banned list. Having a discussion about any other testing is simply not within the criteria of the rules and not part of the negotiations so it wouldn't be relevant toward making a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

So true. This would have been exposed early if Manny agreed to Floyd's demand in the initial negotiation but it took a second negotiation to do this.

[Hornfinger]

As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.

An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.

Oh bwoy

Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.

Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.

Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. But it appears your hatred had been directed at Manny even after he agreed to the demand. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. Floyd never cared about the fight in the first place, he had been trying to avoid the fight that's why the drug test demand. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. He already agreed to it but you still think that's the stumbling point? Hello!!! We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. Stop living in the past. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test. He just demands the kind of blood test that should be done.

It seems like hornfinger just went on vacation and he sent in a substitution.

Maybe it shows not everyone is as dumb, gullable, and biased as you pactards.

[Hornfinger]

You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"

someones getting very desperate now.

Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha

Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation.

Desperation.

I haven't even tried to dig any up. Does this forum even have posts that are 5 years old?

You have been in this forum a lot longer than me and you don't know if they have posts that are 5 years old. You really are not credible.

This 'Boxing Talk' forum already has 1032 pages and I recently was able to dig up a post from 2006.

Good for you desperate dan.

I questioned your credibility and that's all you can say. Can't prove me wrong, can you?

No because scince 2005 saddo has changed servers and their aren't posts that old on this forum.

You really aren't very bright are you.

Prove I wasn't anti drugs before floyds requests.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.

An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.

Oh bwoy

Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.

Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.

Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. But it appears your hatred had been directed at Manny even after he agreed to the demand. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. Floyd never cared about the fight in the first place, he had been trying to avoid the fight that's why the drug test demand. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. He already agreed to it but you still think that's the stumbling point? Hello!!! We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. Stop living in the past. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test. He just demands the kind of blood test that should be done.

It seems like hornfinger just went on vacation and he sent in a substitution.

Maybe it shows not everyone is as dumb, gullable, and biased as you pactards.

Done with your vacation already?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"

someones getting very desperate now.

Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha

Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation.

Desperation.

I haven't even tried to dig any up. Does this forum even have posts that are 5 years old?

You have been in this forum a lot longer than me and you don't know if they have posts that are 5 years old. You really are not credible.

This 'Boxing Talk' forum already has 1032 pages and I recently was able to dig up a post from 2006.

Good for you desperate dan.

I questioned your credibility and that's all you can say. Can't prove me wrong, can you?

No because scince 2005 saddo has changed servers and their aren't posts that old on this forum.

You really aren't very bright are you.

Prove I wasn't anti drugs before floyds requests.

So you admit that you can't prove me wrong because Saddo has changed servers since 2005. Since when did you recover from your amnesia about not knowing if they keep posts as old as 5 years ago? You have nothing from 2006 until today that can prove me wrong?

Aren't you supposed to be the one to prove that you have been passionate about this anti-drug thing before Floyd's request and not the other way around? This is what you expect Pacquiao to do. You want the burden of prove to be with Manny to prove that he is clean so this also applies to you to prove that you are credible.

[Gandalf]

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.

It is not blatantly untrue to say either fighter was the cause of the first failed negotiation. I once refused to drive a car but that doesn't mean, I don't know how to drive. Anyone can continue to quote the original statement and say I don't know how to drive. The fact is, I drive just fine. Someone saying I can't drive, because I once refused to drive is intentionally misleading the point of the subject matter, which is exactly what you do taking about a fight being made between Floyd and Pac. What appears more and more evident is that Mayweather Jr. simply does not want to fight Pacquiao. There is no because argument to the contrary because Floyd is unwilling to even go to the negotiating table.

You keep repeating that Pacquiao doesn't want to take the test but that is a blatant lie according to the NSAC which has stated he has testing clean in every test he is ever taken. And before you start repeating the BS, what they test for is what is on the list of banned substances including tests that fall under the Random testing policy they implemented in 08'. It doesn't matter if they test blood or urine, the fact is they test for what is on the banned list. Having a discussion about any other testing is simply not within the criteria of the rules and not part of the negotiations so it wouldn't be relevant toward making a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

So true. This would have been exposed early if Manny agreed to Floyd's demand in the initial negotiation but it took a second negotiation to do this.

I am actually in agreement with the bolded part and your statement above. The only difference is that I am more suspicious regarding Manny's initial refusal to agree to the drug testing demands. I don't think Floyd wants the fight either.

[Hornfinger]

Done with your vacation already?

Lol your delusions are getting worse.

I don't post on a forum for a day so I must be on vacation. It's called having a life. Try it sometime. It might get you away from masterbating over pacquiao posters once in a while.

[Hornfinger]

Aren't you supposed to be the one to prove that you have been passionate about this anti-drug thing before Floyd's request and not the other way around? This is what you expect Pacquiao to do. You want the burden of prove to be with Manny to prove that he is clean so this also applies to you to prove that you are credible.

I'm flattered that you think my posts on a forum are as important as an athlete participating in a potential fatal sport proving he's not cheating.



I already told you I can't prove it because it weakens me (you believe that excuse with pacquiao so you'll believe it with me otherwise it's just double standards....)

[Addicted to Boxing]

If Manny agreed to test be it 1st, 2nd, or 50th negotiation...and we had proof he agreed. As in he signed his part of the contract....then I am satisfied. I'm not 100% convinced he is on anything. I never thought he was. I never, ever thought he was until he came with the worst excuse after excuse and he made himself look guilty by opening his mouth. He should just call Floyd out and send over "signed paperwork" and if Floyd bullshits then I say fuck Floyd for being a bitch. But above I referenced "signed paperwork" cause some people here actually think cause Manny, Roach or Bob say something that they mean it. Sure they will say Manny agreed or this or that while they are negotiation his next victim before fighting the one in front of him.

If Manny agress to the drug test, the burden of proof shifts to the opposing boxer. How many times do I have to say this?
There can not be a "signed paperwork" if Floyd's team even denies that the second negotiation took place.

It was the excuses that killed me. It was the B.S. Manny said....for the love of God if he agreed and took the test and fought Floyd regardless of outcome I would be happy.

Both parties came up with excuses in the first negotiation. Some think that the blood test demand was Floyd's excuse to avoid the fight and Manny did not call in Floyd's bluff. When Manny agreed in the second negotiation, Floyd's refusal appear to give credibility to the suspicion that he was indeed avoiding Manny.

I also think that after the first negotiation Pac and fans and everyone on his balls have done everything possible to "Claim" they agreed the second time. Proof? And now they just ride out the "Blame Floyd" roller coaster and Manny keeps avoiding the test. So that's why I have doubt. Not saying he is on something 100% but he just runs and even when he so called agrees.......it's only verified by him, Roach and Arum. They always say this shit. And they keep lining up fight after fight before fights are signed to avoid the test. But Pac fans don't want to believe it. Just like I would like to think Floyd isn't ducking Manny and I don't. But harsh reality is if Manny signs to test "I want Proof" then Floyd is a ducker and I will accept it. But the logic of a Pac fan is that they "worship" him so he could do no wrong. See us Flomos as you call us don't actually like Floyd so we are open to both sides of the story. Pac fans are not. He is god therefore he is clean.

Manny Pacquiao Agrees To Blood Test | The Daily Tribute

Pacquiao Agrees to Drug Testing to Fight Mayweather | Testing It Up – Drug & Health Testing News – Test Country Blog

BBC Sport - Manny Pacquiao agrees to 14-day blood-testing limit

Pacquiao willing to take random dope test | The Manila Bulletin Newspaper Online

Pacquiao agrees to the Olympic-style random drug test | onFuss.com

Manny Pacquiao agrees to undergo blood tests, but Floyd Mayweather has new... - Bloody Elbow

Report: Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s Drug-Testing Demands - Manny Pacquiao - NESN.com

Pacman Agrees to Drug Test

Boxing: Pacquiao agrees to blood tests for fight with Mayweather - Others, More Sports - The Independent

Yes, team Pacquiao claimed they agreed to the drug test. It's up to team Mayweather to prove that they're bluffing.

What a joke everyone knows that different medias use the same source as fill to grab headlines. Go ahead rad the same article 20 times. This is nothing more than speculation that has viraled out. This is not factual, only film footage or a contract can prove anything. Arum is a known liar, Roach is a half ass retarded trainer riding Pac' s coat tails and Pac is King of ridiculous excuses from socks, catch weights to fear of needles !

[InTheNeutralCorner]

It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.

As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.

It is not blatantly untrue to say either fighter was the cause of the first failed negotiation. I once refused to drive a car but that doesn't mean, I don't know how to drive. Anyone can continue to quote the original statement and say I don't know how to drive. The fact is, I drive just fine. Someone saying I can't drive, because I once refused to drive is intentionally misleading the point of the subject matter, which is exactly what you do taking about a fight being made between Floyd and Pac. What appears more and more evident is that Mayweather Jr. simply does not want to fight Pacquiao. There is no because argument to the contrary because Floyd is unwilling to even go to the negotiating table.

You keep repeating that Pacquiao doesn't want to take the test but that is a blatant lie according to the NSAC which has stated he has testing clean in every test he is ever taken. And before you start repeating the BS, what they test for is what is on the list of banned substances including tests that fall under the Random testing policy they implemented in 08'. It doesn't matter if they test blood or urine, the fact is they test for what is on the banned list. Having a discussion about any other testing is simply not within the criteria of the rules and not part of the negotiations so it wouldn't be relevant toward making a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

So true. This would have been exposed early if Manny agreed to Floyd's demand in the initial negotiation but it took a second negotiation to do this.

I am actually in agreement with the bolded part and your statement above. The only difference is that I am more suspicious regarding Manny's initial refusal to agree to the drug testing demands. I don't think Floyd wants the fight either.

Finally, we're nearing an agreement. I don't blame you for being suspicious regarding Manny's initial refusal. It created doubts in me, too. But Manny agreeing to those drug test in the second negotiation erased those doubts. Just like if Floyd agrees to fight at some future time, it may erase my suspicion that he's a coward.