Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan

[FinitoElDinamita]

well same can be said about Cintron, if it weren't why take a year off? why take on Molina of all people just cause he had a decent showing against an unproven Lara, instead of lets say Martinez, or make some noise to see if he has the balls to step up against Pacquiao and actually try to win, Kermit Cintron has been only about getting a paycheck, that's why he jumps out of boxing rings, talks himself up, and then threatens to get into MMA whenever he's not making any noise in boxing, sorry but the guy gets the bad press that he earns, that's exactly why he's referred to as Kermit "El Lloron" Cintron over here on the island

Martinez is looking for megafights and he wouldn't fancy a Cintron rematch anyways. There's no point in Cintron looking for a rematch at this juncture, realistically. FYI, he's been wanting Berto since his january. He's done everything to secure a match with berto but got declined. What's wrong with Carlos Molina anyways? He's actually a high risk/low reward opponent and Kermit deserves alot of credit for fighting him. As i said, he has to stick to reality and there's no point in calling out Pacquiao either right now. I bet he wouldnt think twice about accepting the fight it was offered to him though..

When Cotto was being spoon fed with gimmie fights and getting rocked by the Torres and the Corleys, Cintron risked himself against dangerous punchers like Reid and stepped up to Margarito in his very next fight, in 05. Cintron/Cotto pretty much started their pro career around the same time yet Cintron had the balls to fight a live body in 05..

Right now, Cotto is a borderline HOF..

how were Torres and Corley gimme fights? if anything they're both on a higher level then Reid because both are former world champs, and weren't on the slide like Reid was, Cotto passed his tests with flying colors while Cintron failed miserably when he finally stepped it up, Martinez has expressed interest in a rematch with Cintron so that he could make it 3-0 against him , again apart from Angulo, who has Cintron ever beat to give any indication that he's anywhere close to the level of Cotto, and Angulo is STILL unproven today

Torres was a nobody, a typical Columbian fighter with a padded record he was when he fought cotto and Corley was a fringe contender at the time. It was a calculated move against overmatched opponents where nobody gave them a chance to win yet he was kind of exposed in those fights. Reid was a proven guy with a reputation as a lethal puncher at that point and he was still a dangerous opponent when Cintron beat him. You're keep ignoring the fact that Cintron stepped up much earlier than cotto did and faced Margarito in his very next bout. That's where im trying to get at bro.

You're also disregarding the fact that Cotto is past his best. He's no longer the ambitious killer he used to be and a fight with Cintron would be fatal for him, today...

There's a reason why they're all over the Chavez Jr fight.

[marbleheadmaui]

well same can be said about Cintron, if it weren't why take a year off? why take on Molina of all people just cause he had a decent showing against an unproven Lara, instead of lets say Martinez, or make some noise to see if he has the balls to step up against Pacquiao and actually try to win, Kermit Cintron has been only about getting a paycheck, that's why he jumps out of boxing rings, talks himself up, and then threatens to get into MMA whenever he's not making any noise in boxing, sorry but the guy gets the bad press that he earns, that's exactly why he's referred to as Kermit "El Lloron" Cintron over here on the island

Martinez is looking for megafights and he wouldn't fancy a Cintron rematch anyways. There's no point in Cintron looking for a rematch at this juncture, realistically. FYI, he's been wanting Berto since his january. He's done everything to secure a match with berto but got declined. What's wrong with Carlos Molina anyways? He's actually a high risk/low reward opponent and Kermit deserves alot of credit for fighting him. As i said, he has to stick to reality and there's no point in calling out Pacquiao either right now. I bet he wouldnt think twice about accepting the fight it was offered to him though..

When Cotto was being spoon fed with gimmie fights and getting rocked by the Torres and the Corleys, Cintron risked himself against dangerous punchers like Reid and stepped up to Margarito in his very next fight, in 05. Cintron/Cotto pretty much started their pro career around the same time yet Cintron had the balls to fight a live body in 05..

Right now, Cotto is a borderline HOF..

[banging head on desk]

Look I like Miguel Cotto. But he's never, not for one second even been THE MAN in the division he was in. HOF? He's nowhere close or the HOF has become the Hall of the good.

[FinitoElDinamita]

well same can be said about Cintron, if it weren't why take a year off? why take on Molina of all people just cause he had a decent showing against an unproven Lara, instead of lets say Martinez, or make some noise to see if he has the balls to step up against Pacquiao and actually try to win, Kermit Cintron has been only about getting a paycheck, that's why he jumps out of boxing rings, talks himself up, and then threatens to get into MMA whenever he's not making any noise in boxing, sorry but the guy gets the bad press that he earns, that's exactly why he's referred to as Kermit "El Lloron" Cintron over here on the island

Martinez is looking for megafights and he wouldn't fancy a Cintron rematch anyways. There's no point in Cintron looking for a rematch at this juncture, realistically. FYI, he's been wanting Berto since his january. He's done everything to secure a match with berto but got declined. What's wrong with Carlos Molina anyways? He's actually a high risk/low reward opponent and Kermit deserves alot of credit for fighting him. As i said, he has to stick to reality and there's no point in calling out Pacquiao either right now. I bet he wouldnt think twice about accepting the fight it was offered to him though..

When Cotto was being spoon fed with gimmie fights and getting rocked by the Torres and the Corleys, Cintron risked himself against dangerous punchers like Reid and stepped up to Margarito in his very next fight, in 05. Cintron/Cotto pretty much started their pro career around the same time yet Cintron had the balls to fight a live body in 05..

Right now, Cotto is a borderline HOF..

[banging head on desk]

Look I like Miguel Cotto. But he's never, not for one second even been THE MAN in the division he was in. HOF? He's nowhere close or the HOF has become the Hall of the good.

Hey, I agree with you. In a perfect world, Cotto is NOT a HOF but I say that he's a borderline because today's HOF has lost some of its prestige. Nowadays, undeserving fighters and lesser guys than Cotto have been inducted so based on that, we have to assume that he'll get into it too..