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It's a tune-up for Manny. Ortiz has zero, and I mean zero shot to win this fight.

But it's a tune-up so that's fine.

The idea that beating as limited a guy as Victo Ortiz means something is pretty funny.
He's a top contender, I'm amazed that you have a problem with this considering how much emphasis you place on the old guys facing top contenders.
The idea Victor Ortiz is a top contender is one of the saddest concepts I've seen in a while

But you make a fair point!
Maybe, but Mayweather & Pacquiao aside there's no better 147lber. He beat the best other guy.

I also think Ortiz is better than being given credit for by many here. I think he's big & strong enough to cause some real problems to Mayweather, who I don't believe hits as hard as Maidana or Berto.