Haye has shocking stamina

[AdamGB]

You guys are really cute, you're trying to paint this nice little "No Way We Can Lose" picture on one hand its "If Wlad wins then he was supposed to. He's bigger on his home turf, and vastly more experienced" and on the other hand its "The WBA title holder is Wlad's most dangerous threat EVER" ....nice scenario guys, good luck with it.

I'm being realistic, sure I've been a fan of Wlad since whenever, but the FACTS are that the WBA title holder has done fuck all in the heavyweight division to earn this shot except talk for over 2 fucking years....I personally think he's skilled, but how can you accurately judge when he has been fighting stiffs (yeah HE'S the one fighting the stiffs! Not Wlad). I worry that this is an Audley Harrison style hype job and well....I just hope the guy shows up to fight instead of looking to cash in that big retirement check and that my friends is a legitimate worry that I have as a fan of BOXING.

Who said 'no way he can lose'? I can think of two good reasons... both of them belonging to a 245lb, 6 foot 7 boxer!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

okay I'm on my phone so can't but can anyone who reads Adam's post about conditioning cool click the shit out of his post.

It's not hard to do and takes only a second. Thank you.

[El Kabong]

I'll just go ahead and throw this out before anyone else does....

"Awwwww but he broke his hand"

[0james0]

Bruno was a monster though, so much muscle to lug around.

There is no way he expects this fight to be easy, he is a pretty smart guy and is obsessed with boxing, watches it loads and loves for it. Because of that he will be making sure he is in the best condition possible, even if his stamina was bad before, this should be the best he's ever been.

Watching Groves get such a massive win and I bet Groves was an animal in the gym, that will have set a standard for him and Booth and he'll know how hard he has to train. I think he will be at his absolute peak going into this fight.

Both fighters will really want it, Wlad has probably not looked this good for years. Wait to you see him at the weigh in, I bet he'll look conditioned as fuck. Both generally healthy athletes at all times now anyway, so I don't think fitness will be a factor at all. Or stamina, or cardio or any of the other forms of exercise I never knew existed!

The main questions will be answered within the first minute, has Haye froze, can he take a right hand?

If he comes out up for it and takes a few rights to face ok, it could get interesting.

You can't knock Haye for how he builds a fight. The whole curiosity about his tactic. To be fair Wlad has played a healthy part in his half of the promotion too. But it's been a decent build up.

[hitmanhatton]

Bruno was a monster though, so much muscle to lug around.

There is no way he expects this fight to be easy, he is a pretty smart guy and is obsessed with boxing, watches it loads and loves for it. Because of that he will be making sure he is in the best condition possible, even if his stamina was bad before, this should be the best he's ever been.

Watching Groves get such a massive win and I bet Groves was an animal in the gym, that will have set a standard for him and Booth and he'll know how hard he has to train. I think he will be at his absolute peak going into this fight.

Both fighters will really want it, Wlad has probably not looked this good for years. Wait to you see him at the weigh in, I bet he'll look conditioned as fuck. Both generally healthy athletes at all times now anyway, so I don't think fitness will be a factor at all. Or stamina, or cardio or any of the other forms of exercise I never knew existed!

The main questions will be answered within the first minute, has Haye froze, can he take a right hand?

If he comes out up for it and takes a few rights to face ok, it could get interesting.

You can't knock Haye for how he builds a fight. The whole curiosity about his tactic. To be fair Wlad has played a healthy part in his half of the promotion too. But it's been a decent build up.

yeah thats my point mate, saying someone knows the best way to improve stamina based on their physique is missing the point

there is a reason athletes get smaller as the distances/duration go up

[Hornfinger]

Bruno was a monster though, so much muscle to lug around.

Quite possibly the stupidest, most uneducated thing I've ever read.

Someone mentioned Usain Bolt earlier, the fastest man on the planet. You do know he weighs close to 17 stone.


Please people if you've never competed or trained for anything in your life, please don't make daft assumptions about training techniques or how the body works.

[0james0]

Bruno was a monster though, so much muscle to lug around.

Quite possibly the stupidest, most uneducated thing I've ever read.

Someone mentioned Usain Bolt earlier, the fastest man on the planet. You do know he weighs close to 17 stone.


Please people if you've never competed or trained for anything in your life, please don't make daft assumptions about training techniques or how the body works.

If that is possibly the spupidest, most uneducated thing you have EVER read, you clearly have not been reading many posts on this very forum. Or even reading at all. Does your reading experience consist of Mr Men books? Fuck me, there are far stupider things to read than that where ever you look!

I didn't know Bolt weighed 17 stone, but when have I ever pretended to be an expert on fitness? I train, I play sports and I've just started boxing properly, but I am no expert on the science of it all. But I have always assumed that muscle weighs more than most things you can add or take away to your body and if you have too much of it, it makes you less mobile and heavier. I also thought that muscles require lots of energy from your body to make work, something to do with the acid and/or oxygen required to make it work. A beast like Bruno, his body has to work far harder to make those muscles actually work and move, which would lead you to think he has more chance of tiring quicker compared to if he didn't have muscles on top of his muscles.

I didn't write FACT at the end of my post, so I never intended you to pass any exams from reading it, was just an opinion. But I'm sure that opinion was gathered from reading posts on here from people far more educated than you.

[Hornfinger]

No you just wrote non sensical bullshit about a subject you had no clue on. Please refrain from doing it again.

i suppose in your world the best athlete would be one with no muscle at all right? That athlete would be supper fast having no muscle to lug around....

a pound of muslce and a pound of fat both weigh a pound. So no muscle doesn't weigh more than fat. It is however more dense so takes up less space. But here's the thing a pound of fat doesn't do anything. It just sits there waiting to be used as energy. Muscle however.... and get this, it'll really shock you......makes the body move.

[0james0]

No you just wrote non sensical bullshit about a subject you had no clue on. Please refrain from doing it again.

i suppose in your world the best athlete would be one with no muscle at all right? That athlete would be supper fast having no muscle to lug around....

a pound of muslce and a pound of fat both weigh a pound. So no muscle doesn't weigh more than fat. It is however more dense so takes up less space. But here's the thing a pound of fat doesn't do anything. It just sits there waiting to be used as energy. Muscle however.... and get this, it'll really shock you......makes the body move.

Yes boss, I will refrain from posting an opinion on a public forum. Or I will at least ask your permission before I do.

All I was saying was that someone with excess muscle would tire before someone who was toned, but still athletic. I never said muscle was bad, just an excess of it I had always believed could count against you from a fitness perspective, particualrly in boxing. I'm sure Adam or another expert will clear it up when they see the thread. I've got no problem with being wrong, especially on a subect I'm not an expert on. If you are wrong though, what a tit you will look as a self proclaimed expert.

Anyway, I'm sure tomorrow you'll be picking fights with someone else, as per usual, so I'll just let this one blow over.

[Fenster]

Usain Bolt weighs 17 stone? Seriously? Wow!!!

Haye-vs-Bolt is a mismatch on paper. Height, weight, reach (i guess), speed, explosivness? That sprinter is in the wrong sport.

[killersheep]

Usain Bolt weighs 17 stone? Seriously? Wow!!!

Haye-vs-Bolt is a mismatch on paper. Height, weight, reach (i guess), speed, explosivness? That sprinter is in the wrong sport.

He's 6'5" and regularly weighs in at less than 15 stone.

[15rounder]

You guys are really cute, you're trying to paint this nice little "No Way We Can Lose" picture on one hand its "If Wlad wins then he was supposed to. He's bigger on his home turf, and vastly more experienced" and on the other hand its "The WBA title holder is Wlad's most dangerous threat EVER" ....nice scenario guys, good luck with it.

I'm being realistic, sure I've been a fan of Wlad since whenever, but the FACTS are that the WBA title holder has done fuck all in the heavyweight division to earn this shot except talk for over 2 fucking years....I personally think he's skilled, but how can you accurately judge when he has been fighting stiffs (yeah HE'S the one fighting the stiffs! Not Wlad). I worry that this is an Audley Harrison style hype job and well....I just hope the guy shows up to fight instead of looking to cash in that big retirement check and that my friends is a legitimate worry that I have as a fan of BOXING.

Who said 'no way he can lose'? I can think of two good reasons... both of them belonging to a 245lb, 6 foot 7 boxer!

I have to agree with both of the comments above. This fight is a hype job. Haye wants a payday and he's getting it. Wlad will tear him apart. This is no contest, no brainer.