Haye has shocking stamina

[killersheep]

Usain Bolt weighs 17 stone? Seriously? Wow!!!

Haye-vs-Bolt is a mismatch on paper. Height, weight, reach (i guess), speed, explosivness? That sprinter is in the wrong sport.

He's 6'5" and regularly weighs in at less than 15 stone.

[Hornfinger]

Usain Bolt weighs 17 stone? Seriously? Wow!!!

Haye-vs-Bolt is a mismatch on paper. Height, weight, reach (i guess), speed, explosivness? That sprinter is in the wrong sport.

He's 6'5" and regularly weighs in at less than 15 stone.

usain obviously decided to lie during his interview on top gear. Yes slight exaggeration he does state he weighs 15 stone or 210 pounds (maybe more in his off season though). Still by a long way the heaviest 100 meters runner. He weighs the same as david haye and is only 2 inches taller.

[hitmanhatton]

and give bolt a workload over about 45-60 secs and he will be blowing out of his arse when all those fast twitch muscles are useless to him

then look at someone like calzaghe ... id say distinctly average physique for a professional athlete and yet stamina that seemed to be never ending

[AdamGB]

and give bolt a workload over about 45-60 secs and he will be blowing out of his arse when all those fast twitch muscles are useless to him

then look at someone like calzaghe ... id say distinctly average physique for a professional athlete and yet stamina that seemed to be never ending

Who's talking about looks?

What exactly do you mean by workload? Are we saying that he can't handle a light workload for a few minutes?

He's going to be able to function at a higher intensity and stay there for longer than an endurance athlete who is only really trained aerobically.

If you've only got one gear then you're not going to cope with the pace.

Of course a bigger guy fatigues quicker than a smaller one. That's one of the reasons we have weight classes.

I'd love to know when fast twitch fibres became useless. Roy Jones Jr was a ball of them - and he did OK.

Even Calzaghe, he didn't put as much weight in his shots due to bad hands... but you don't get speed like that and you can't sustain long combos like Joe did without having a tonne of fast twitch fibres and anaerobic fitness... again, we're not talking about looks here... not when talking about Calzaghe and not when talking about Haye.

I've seen how Enzo trains his fighters, sure he gets them doing a lot of light sustained work, but they also do plenty of sprint type training.

work recover, work recover

up the intensity, the duration of work, reduce the recovery time and increase the volume of intervals as you get fitter.

Training should mimic the tempo of a fight and boxing isn't 45 minutes of twinkle toed dancing.

[hitmanhatton]

and give bolt a workload over about 45-60 secs and he will be blowing out of his arse when all those fast twitch muscles are useless to him

then look at someone like calzaghe ... id say distinctly average physique for a professional athlete and yet stamina that seemed to be never ending

Who's talking about looks?

What exactly do you mean by workload? Are we saying that he can't handle a light workload for a few minutes?

He's going to be able to function at a higher intensity and stay there for longer than an endurance athlete who is only really trained aerobically.

If you've only got one gear then you're not going to cope with the pace.

Of course a bigger guy fatigues quicker than a smaller one. That's one of the reasons we have weight classes.

I'd love to know when fast twitch fibres became useless. Roy Jones Jr was a ball of them - and he did OK.

Even Calzaghe, he didn't put as much weight in his shots due to bad hands... but you don't get speed like that and you can't sustain long combos like Joe did without having a tonne of fast twitch fibres and anaerobic fitness... again, we're not talking about looks here... not when talking about Calzaghe and not when talking about Haye.

I've seen how Enzo trains his fighters, sure he gets them doing a lot of light sustained work, but they also do plenty of sprint type training.

work recover, work recover

up the intensity, the duration of work, reduce the recovery time and increase the volume of intervals as you get fitter.

Training should mimic the tempo of a fight and boxing isn't 45 minutes of twinkle toed dancing.

basically hornfinger seems to think because Haye has one of the best physiques he therefore has the best training methods ... i was simply pointing out this was not the case

and i know that boxing isnt low intensity from my own experience, but its not purely anaerobic either .. which was my point with haye not really training in a way to help his endurance ... sure his fast and powerful ... but then only dishes out 13 shots a round so the balance obviously isnt right there

[AdamGB]

and give bolt a workload over about 45-60 secs and he will be blowing out of his arse when all those fast twitch muscles are useless to him

then look at someone like calzaghe ... id say distinctly average physique for a professional athlete and yet stamina that seemed to be never ending

Who's talking about looks?

What exactly do you mean by workload? Are we saying that he can't handle a light workload for a few minutes?

He's going to be able to function at a higher intensity and stay there for longer than an endurance athlete who is only really trained aerobically.

If you've only got one gear then you're not going to cope with the pace.

Of course a bigger guy fatigues quicker than a smaller one. That's one of the reasons we have weight classes.

I'd love to know when fast twitch fibres became useless. Roy Jones Jr was a ball of them - and he did OK.

Even Calzaghe, he didn't put as much weight in his shots due to bad hands... but you don't get speed like that and you can't sustain long combos like Joe did without having a tonne of fast twitch fibres and anaerobic fitness... again, we're not talking about looks here... not when talking about Calzaghe and not when talking about Haye.

I've seen how Enzo trains his fighters, sure he gets them doing a lot of light sustained work, but they also do plenty of sprint type training.

work recover, work recover

up the intensity, the duration of work, reduce the recovery time and increase the volume of intervals as you get fitter.

Training should mimic the tempo of a fight and boxing isn't 45 minutes of twinkle toed dancing.

basically hornfinger seems to think because Haye has one of the best physiques he therefore has the best training methods ... i was simply pointing out this was not the case

and i know that boxing isnt low intensity from my own experience, but its not purely anaerobic either .. which was my point with haye not really training in a way to help his endurance ... sure his fast and powerful ... but then only dishes out 13 shots a round so the balance obviously isnt right there

The only sport that is purely anaerobic would be things like shotput, sprinting etc, same as the only sport that is purely aerobic would be an endurance event. Most sports are a mixture and I'd probably say that boxing is about 2/3 anaerobic.

I agree with you about looks, but must have missed the point when people were saying that Haye looks fit so is fit.

[Hornfinger]

and give bolt a workload over about 45-60 secs and he will be blowing out of his arse when all those fast twitch muscles are useless to him

then look at someone like calzaghe ... id say distinctly average physique for a professional athlete and yet stamina that seemed to be never ending

Who's talking about looks?

What exactly do you mean by workload? Are we saying that he can't handle a light workload for a few minutes?

He's going to be able to function at a higher intensity and stay there for longer than an endurance athlete who is only really trained aerobically.

If you've only got one gear then you're not going to cope with the pace.

Of course a bigger guy fatigues quicker than a smaller one. That's one of the reasons we have weight classes.

I'd love to know when fast twitch fibres became useless. Roy Jones Jr was a ball of them - and he did OK.

Even Calzaghe, he didn't put as much weight in his shots due to bad hands... but you don't get speed like that and you can't sustain long combos like Joe did without having a tonne of fast twitch fibres and anaerobic fitness... again, we're not talking about looks here... not when talking about Calzaghe and not when talking about Haye.

I've seen how Enzo trains his fighters, sure he gets them doing a lot of light sustained work, but they also do plenty of sprint type training.

work recover, work recover

up the intensity, the duration of work, reduce the recovery time and increase the volume of intervals as you get fitter.

Training should mimic the tempo of a fight and boxing isn't 45 minutes of twinkle toed dancing.

basically hornfinger seems to think because Haye has one of the best physiques he therefore has the best training methods ... i was simply pointing out this was not the case

and i know that boxing isnt low intensity from my own experience, but its not purely anaerobic either .. which was my point with haye not really training in a way to help his endurance ... sure his fast and powerful ... but then only dishes out 13 shots a round so the balance obviously isnt right there

Basicall that's not what I said at all.