Wow, that is a horrible decision

[OumaFan]

Paul Williams is Al Haymon's boy.

That's pretty much it.

In a way I dislike this decision for Paul's sake. He's such a warrior. Not a smart fighter. Clueless trainer. But he's what's right about boxing in a sense and bad decisions almost always result in a backlash against the fighter who received that decision and Paul doesn't deserve that.

[bcollins]

Paul Williams is Al Haymon's boy.

That's pretty much it.

In a way I dislike this decision for Paul's sake. He's such a warrior. Not a smart fighter. Clueless trainer. But he's what's right about boxing in a sense and bad decisions almost always result in a backlash against the fighter who received that decision and Paul doesn't deserve that.

Right on the money.

[CFH]

Paul Williams is Al Haymon's boy.

That's pretty much it.

In a way I dislike this decision for Paul's sake. He's such a warrior. Not a smart fighter. Clueless trainer. But he's what's right about boxing in a sense and bad decisions almost always result in a backlash against the fighter who received that decision and Paul doesn't deserve that.

That's absolutely true. I know that I, especially if there is a rematch, will be cheering against Paul Williams and hoping he loses in such a one-sided way that it makes robbery impossible or the scorecards moot. And that's not really fair because he's a great fighter with a great attitude (even if his post-fight interview pissed me off).

[Majesty]

I watched this fight a second time just now on HBO. And honestly Lara didn't do himself any favors not stepping on the gas, he seemed in the late rounds like he was more or less coasting and throwing one or two left hands cause he could find Williams easy, but the rest of the round he let Paul hold him on the inside and throw punches. And I watch the pucnch stats and see that Williams threw in the 70s and Lara was throwing in the 20s or sometimes 30s. And honestly he didn't do himself any favors letting Williams throw 10 shots whenever they were in close. He'd land the one hard left hand, coast around the outside not doing much till he threw the left again or he'd let Paul get close and work on the inside. Regardless on the bad decision, he didn't do himself any favors by not stepping on the gas and letting Paul get off on on him. I'd like to see a rematch, part of me does part of me doesn't. Part of me says Williams can do better than he did tonight, but then again a part of me says he'll never do better as long as he has his trainer or that this may be all he has left to offer. So I'll have to see him one more time before I decide, but Paul won't have any longevity in the sport if he keeps giving up his height. if he threw the same combinations like he can on the outside he'd last a lot longer in the sport.

[#1FightFan]

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done seriously...

[marbleheadmaui]

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done seriously...

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done seriously...

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

What 'people'?

Are you delusional

[marbleheadmaui]

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done seriously...

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

What 'people'?

Are you delusional

Well the poster I quoted for one, folks from various forumns I visit after fights to see what is being written.

I don't think I'm delusional...but I could be. After all I think you're a worthwhile poster

[JazMerkin]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

[Hulk]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

I'm not sure how you can agree with the accusation that the oft cried ROBBERY is actually 'dismissed' by'people'. What people? The casual fans? From what I see, casual fans are dismissing Boxing because of the shit judging. Not shit reactions.

[marbleheadmaui]

THIS is the problem with the overuse of the word "robbery." it is when a fight like this happens, that really IS one? The term no longer has the same impact.

I had it a lot closer than the HBO team. I had it 7-5 Lara. But I had no round marked close that didn't go to Williams.

[Mr140]

Have not seen the fight but a lot of people over did it on the Alexander fight that was a close one. I wait to watch before i say anything but people on the board seem to think close fight equals a robbery now.

[marbleheadmaui]

Have not seen the fight but a lot of people over did it on the Alexander fight that was a close one. I wait to watch before i say anything but people on the board seem to think close fight equals a robbery now.

Completely agree. I'll be interested if you think this was competitive.

[ICB]

Wow i must catch up on this, so Paul Williams got gift decision ? getting a bit tired of these type of decision's i mean Devon Alexander should have 3 losses.