Is Zab Judah an Elite fighter ?

[LukeH]

By my definition of elite he's not now and he never has been.

What does Elite mean to you?

Bilbo has already answered for me.

I pretty much agree with Pugilistic.

Right now Mayweather and Pac, maybe Martinez,Marquez and Bhop. Someone like Donaire will probably get there with more top drawer opposition.

If I had to put boxers in tiers id have Mayweather and Pac in a group at the top by themselves. To me they are elite and easily the best two boxers in the sport.
As i said in another thread, if we are to use words like elite, world class etc, there should be a unified defintion of it everyone can go by. As it is everyone has different opinions,

[Memphis]

By my definition of elite he's not now and he never has been.

What does Elite mean to you?

Bilbo has already answered for me.

I pretty much agree with Pugilistic.

Right now Mayweather and Pac, maybe Martinez,Marquez and Bhop. Someone like Donaire will probably get there with more top drawer opposition.

If I had to put boxers in tiers id have Mayweather and Pac in a group at the top by themselves. To me they are elite and easily the best two boxers in the sport.
As i said in another thread, if we are to use words like elite, world class etc, there should be a unified defintion of it everyone can go by. As it is everyone has different opinions,

Whilst I cant disagree with your logic I would just like to applaud you for the use of 'top drawer'

Many people on here say top draw, annoys the fuck out of me

[LukeH]

By my definition of elite he's not now and he never has been.

What does Elite mean to you?

Bilbo has already answered for me.

I pretty much agree with Pugilistic.

Right now Mayweather and Pac, maybe Martinez,Marquez and Bhop. Someone like Donaire will probably get there with more top drawer opposition.

If I had to put boxers in tiers id have Mayweather and Pac in a group at the top by themselves. To me they are elite and easily the best two boxers in the sport.
As i said in another thread, if we are to use words like elite, world class etc, there should be a unified defintion of it everyone can go by. As it is everyone has different opinions,

Whilst I cant disagree with your logic I would just like to applaud you for the use of 'top drawer'

Many people on here say top draw, annoys the fuck out of me

I don't very often say it myself, didn't realize I had to be honest. Rum's to blame. I'm not sure where I would put 'top draw' with all my talk of elite and world class so I've fucked myself over a little bit.

[Pugilistic]

Keep voting folks.

Give saddos your opinion.

[Mar]

He's a good win for elite fighters, zab will never reach the potential he has. Khan really doesn't have to do much. Sit there with your hands up and let zab beat himself. I'd give sweet pea a better chance.

[NuthaPug]

Reminds me of Dylan's song "Don't think twice" where he says "goodbye is too fine a word, babe, so I'll just say fare thee well."

Elite is too fine a word for Judah despite all the fine tuning of the definition to try to make it fit. It soars. Judah ... does not.

[CutMeMick]

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[THE THIRD MAN]

Can I create my own option... Here it is.

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I was waiting for you to show up, i know how much you love Zab

[Pugilistic]

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lol. I did feel like a moron making this thread but it turns out more people think he's elite than i expected.

It all really depends on what "elite" means to you in boxing.

To me, Judah dreams of being elite.

[eagle]

If Championship fights were 4 rounds he'd potentially be an all time great! He had the potential to be truly elite and before the Tszyu fight many saw him as the next big thing. Super fast with good power. If he had a better boxing brain, and maybe smarter management he could have been one of the best of his generation.

A grade talent, D grade mind. Not quite elite.

[CutMeMick]

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[x] This is a joke right?

lol. I did feel like a moron making this thread but it turns out more people think he's elite than i expected.

It all really depends on what "elite" means to you in boxing.

To me, Judah dreams of being elite.

Well that's because some people are stupid...
Elite is a special group or to belong to something exclusive.
Now ask yourself is Zab on par with Bradley & Khan?
I think Zab is acontender but he is no way shape or form elite.

[Fenster]

Can I create my own option... Here it is.

[x] This is a joke right?

lol. I did feel like a moron making this thread but it turns out more people think he's elite than i expected.

It all really depends on what "elite" means to you in boxing.

To me, Judah dreams of being elite.

Well that's because some people are stupid...
Elite is a special group or to belong to something exclusive.
Now ask yourself is Zab on par with Bradley & Khan?
I think Zab is acontender but he is no way shape or form elite.

A special GROUP is exactly what Zab is a member of. Out of 1440 (courtesy of Bilbo) lightwelters, just about everyone considers him top 5. That means he is amongst the very best boxers on the entire planet operating at 140. You can't get much more ELITE than that.

We'll find out if he's on a par with Khan this weekend. If he wins he'll be unquestionably ranked no.2 and own the IBF and WBA titles at the weight. So even by your standards he will be elite.

[FinitoElDinamita]

If you guy look carefully, the ones who share the same sentiments are the top dogs of our Saddo prediction league.. Take the look at the guys on the top such as Fenster, CutemeMick, and myself.... We know what we're talking about and there's no doubt that Zab is an elite.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Can I create my own option... Here it is.

[x] This is a joke right?

lol. I did feel like a moron making this thread but it turns out more people think he's elite than i expected.

It all really depends on what "elite" means to you in boxing.

To me, Judah dreams of being elite.

"Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have in trying to change others"
Is Zab Judah the most capable incapable fighter ever?

[marbleheadmaui]

Can I create my own option... Here it is.

[x] This is a joke right?

lol. I did feel like a moron making this thread but it turns out more people think he's elite than i expected.

It all really depends on what "elite" means to you in boxing.

To me, Judah dreams of being elite.

"Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have in trying to change others"
Is Zab Judah the most capable incapable fighter ever?

Now THAT is a great question.