I feel bad for the Floyd Mayweather haters

[Deanrw]

Floyd's universally regarded as the #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the sport. Anyone who can label that as underachieving needs to re-evaluate.

Not to mention that he's smarter than plenty of stock-brokers, a better athlete than any baseball player and he makes fewer mistakes in the ring than a lot of surgeons do on the operating table.

Just because Floyd hasn't yet fought this guy or that guy that so-and-so wants him to fight, that doesn't mean he's sitting on past accomplishments. How is that even possible in a boxing ring? When he fights Oscar in September, is Floyd going to be able to beat him using his "past accomplishments?"

It is simple. Oscar does not even deserve this fight. He lost the first one in convincing fashion. What does a rematch do it this case? Pad Pockets only! There are other guys in Floyd's own weight class who are deserving of a shot of his standing, but he refuses to grant them a shot. For what reason? It certainly is not financial as a fight with another welterweight title holder will generate a huge gate. Floyd is taking the easy route. Oscar is easy money. It is a great business decision, but a shitty decision for Boxing.

What pisses me off, is that Floyd's fans should want a fight with someone like Cotto, instead of trying to justify why he does not need to. In the big scheme of things, Boxing is about putting the two best in the ring to square off. Floyd is not the only one guilty of doing this, but he is at the top and when you are there, you need to defend that position.

If you want to see how things should be done, go here: Marvin Hagler and look at Hagler's last 10 fights. After every superfight, he would defend against the toughest contenders who wanted those belts. He never forgot about them and what they deserved, and granted them their wish for a shot at his legacy.

[Puya]

I just want him to keep fighting the menaces out there in his weight div.
Judah, Margarito, Williams, Mosley and Cotto.

[SweetPea]

For what reason? It certainly is not financial as a fight with another welterweight title holder will generate a huge gate.

Nowhere near as big of a gate as a fight with Oscar. It's not like a fight against Oscar only makes Floyd a little bit more money than a fight against Cotto or Margarito.... it makes Floyd a TON more money. The other welters aren't even close to Oscar in terms of popularity and marketability.

What pisses me off, is that Floyd's fans should want a fight with someone like Cotto, instead of trying to justify why he does not need to.

Wow, this couldn't be more inaccurate. I don't know a single Floyd fan who doesn't want to see him fight Cotto. We all want to see that fight.

We're just realistic and know that it won't happen until at least 2009. No one is saying that Floyd doesn't need to fight Cotto, we're just saying he doesn't need to fight Cotto RIGHT NOW. If Cotto is as good and as dangerous as everyone thinks he is, then he should have no problem staying undefeated for another 12 months while Floyd takes care of Oscar again.

[El Gamo]

Awesome posting by BX730ony.

[Bx730NY]

Nowhere near as big of a gate as a fight with Oscar. It's not like a fight against Oscar only makes Floyd a little bit more money than a fight against Cotto or Margarito.... it makes Floyd a TON more money. The other welters aren't even close to Oscar in terms of popularity and marketability.


Wow, this couldn't be more inaccurate. I don't know a single Floyd fan who doesn't want to see him fight Cotto. We all want to see that fight.

We're just realistic and know that it won't happen until at least 2009. No one is saying that Floyd doesn't need to fight Cotto, we're just saying he doesn't need to fight Cotto RIGHT NOW. If Cotto is as good and as dangerous as everyone thinks he is, then he should have no problem staying undefeated for another 12 months while Floyd takes care of Oscar again.

Bullcrap!!! Most of floyds fans make it seem as though it's just another easy nights work and Cotto is not ready and a million other excuses. That includes you.

Excuses, excuses, excuses that's all I hear from floyd fans.

You tell me who believes in their guy more....Cotto fans or floyd fans?

We're calling for it and you guys are running from it.

[Bx730NY]

Awesome posting by BX730ony.

Thanx man. Where the hell you been?

[El Gamo]

Thanx man. Where the hell you been?

El Gamo has started working unfortunately! Welcome to a mans world! No more spending days typing about boxing! Although I am still going to be online for sure,certainly not as much as before. Great to see you still making excellent posts though.

I have to disagree Sweetpea,you are part of a handful at best,of Floyd fans that want to see a Cotto fight. Others said he has to fight Williams(Not anymore ), other says Cotto doesn't bring enough to the table. Cotto is good and he dam sure as hell is dangerous but he is also doing something Floyd is not:taking tough fights after tough fights(against legit WW's),followed by a break(Gomez which is still decent) and then more tough fights(Quintana rematch,Winner of Cintron and Margarito). He's fighting the guys Floyd would never fight and could very well lose to anyone of them.

Answer me this:who's resume is better at 140 or 147? I have zero doubt it's Cotto's. So why should Cotto still have to prove anything? Cotto's beaten better fighters in the last couple of years than Zab,Baldomir,Oscar even.

[SweetPea]

Bullcrap!!! Most of floyds fans make it seem as though it's just another easy nights work and Cotto is not ready and a million other excuses. That includes you.

I would love for you to look thru my posts and try to find one where I said that:

a. it would be an easy night's work
b. Cotto is not ready

Good luck, because you won't find what you're looking for. I've never said anything remotely like that.

[Pugilistic]

i don't hate mayweather but he always seem so eager to avoid fighting the best

[SweetPea]

I have to disagree Sweetpea,you are part of a handful at best,of Floyd fans that want to see a Cotto fight.

I really don't believe this. Maybe there are a few Floyd fans who don't want to see him fight Cotto, but those people are idiots. The vast majority of Floyd fans want to see him fight Cotto eventually... because it will be a great fight.

other says Cotto doesn't bring enough to the table.

When people say he "doesn't bring enough to the table," they don't mean skills-wise or talent-wise, it's that he doesn't bring enough to the table yet moneywise.

As has been pointed out in a ton of threads, fighters are always going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Cotto is nowhere near as big of a draw as Oscar, it's not even close.

[El Gamo]

I really don't believe this. Maybe there are a few Floyd fans who don't want to see him fight Cotto, but those people are idiots. The vast majority of Floyd fans want to see him fight Cotto eventually... because it will be a great fight.


When people say he "doesn't bring enough to the table," they don't mean skills-wise or talent-wise, it's that he doesn't bring enough to the table yet moneywise.

As has been pointed out in a ton of threads, fighters are always going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Cotto is nowhere near as big of a draw as Oscar, it's not even close.

And he never will be a big a draw as Oscar,not even close,does that mean Floyd is going to keep fighting Oscar? Are we going to have a trilogy? Is Cotto going to have to wait on the sidelines because Floyd is going to rematch Zab because Zab brings more $$$ to the table?

I personally think it's a shambles. Rematching Oscar. The whole WWE thing when he body was supposedly breaking down and he needed a break etc. Fighter can fight the best fighters out there and make $$$. Mayweather is not and should not be an exception to that.

[Deanrw]

I really don't believe this. Maybe there are a few Floyd fans who don't want to see him fight Cotto, but those people are idiots. The vast majority of Floyd fans want to see him fight Cotto eventually... because it will be a great fight.


When people say he "doesn't bring enough to the table," they don't mean skills-wise or talent-wise, it's that he doesn't bring enough to the table yet moneywise.

As has been pointed out in a ton of threads, fighters are always going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Cotto is nowhere near as big of a draw as Oscar, it's not even close.

How in the hell can he get to that point as long as the Mayweather's of the world keep refusing to fight him? How can he become marquee value when the multi million dollar fighters, who earned their distinction by fighting other huge names, turn their backs and stick with their exclusive club? He will always be on the outside looking in because they will not take the chance to fight him. Your argument does not wash at all. He will never be able to bring enough moneywise, when the so called best refuse to walk inside the ropes with him.

Cotto is the goto man in the division like it or not. Floyd has to fight him instead of a BS fight with ODLH. Money is nothing but an excuse and a lame one at that. Mayweather will get a great payday no matter who he fights at this point.

[SweetPea]

How in the hell can he get to that point as long as the Mayweather's of the world keep refusing to fight him? How can he become marquee value when the multi million dollar fighters, who earned their distinction by fighting other huge names, turn their backs and stick with their exclusive club? He will always be on the outside looking in because they will not take the chance to fight him. Your argument does not wash at all. He will never be able to bring enough moneywise, when the so called best refuse to walk inside the ropes with him.

None of this is accurate at all.

As has been stated on this board a million times, fighters are going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Floyd is fighting Oscar again because he is the opponent right now who brings Floyd the most money.

Once Floyd beats Oscar again, Oscar will be out of the equation. Once that happens, Cotto will be the opponent left who can bring Floyd the most money. Which is why Floyd will fight Cotto eventually, because at some point Cotto will be the opponent who can bring Floyd the most money. But he isn't that guy right now, because Oscar is still around.

Why can't people understand this? It's a very basic concept.

[Deanrw]

And on another note, no Floyd fan should care how much money Cotto brings to the table. The "they want to see Floyd fight Cotto eventually, but he does not bring enough money now" makes no sense at all. Why should they care how much Mayweather is getting paid? They should want to see Floyd is good competitive fights and have lots of fights instead of playing around in the WWE.

[SweetPea]

And he never will be a big a draw as Oscar,not even close,does that mean Floyd is going to keep fighting Oscar? Are we going to have a trilogy?

Not if Floyd beats him again in the rematch, which I fully expect to happen.

Is Cotto going to have to wait on the sidelines because Floyd is going to rematch Zab because Zab brings more $$$ to the table?

Zab doesn't bring more money to the table than Cotto at this point.