There needs to be a super heavyweight division

[bikersk]

Mike Tyson and David Tua are both under 6 foot and they had pretty good careers at Heavyweight and both beat much taller opponents.

No need for change.

Yes you are spot on. However I guess it's the division where you may be fighting someone much heavier and taller and not just because they can eat the whole Macdonald's menu in one sitting ala Butterbean.

[eagle]

It probably wouldnt hurt to move all the weights up 5 pounds or so now that people are bigger in general. Start strawweight at 110, welter could be 152, SMW 173 and so on. HAHA as if it'll happen.

[bikersk]

In case people are wondering, I do realise it won't happen but was mainly thinking of the poor little sods who have to get in with these monsters . But I guess that's one of the attractions of the division and why it can be (at times) good to see a tiny 6 footer beat up a 6'5 + guy. It just hasn't happened for A while.

[eagle]

In case people are wondering, I do realise it won't happen but was mainly thinking of the poor little sods who have to get in with these monsters . But I guess that's one of the attractions of the division and why it can be (at times) good to see a tiny 6 footer beat up a 6'5 + guy. It just hasn't happened for A while.

Chagaev v Valuev?
Sultan v Briggs?

[El Kabong]

In case people are wondering, I do realise it won't happen but was mainly thinking of the poor little sods who have to get in with these monsters . But I guess that's one of the attractions of the division and why it can be (at times) good to see a tiny 6 footer beat up a 6'5 + guy. It just hasn't happened for A while.

What are you talking about, Chagaev beat Valuev and Valuev is WELL over 6'5


Heavyweight needs the big size differences it's supposed to be the relm of the best fighters and if there is a guy that's 5'10 210 that can beat a superheavyweight it adds drama to the division....if there is a big guy who can dominate in a violent manner that is bigger then it adds to the aura of invincibility.


If you make a superheavyweight division or up the weight for cruiserweight then you make a bigger cruiserweight division and who the fuck cares about cruiserweights? (aside from the Haye and Macca fans....crazy bastards)

[Puerto Rican Punch]

No more weight divisions please. We have had fighters like Tyson that could KO any boxer of any size with a punch. Now that the heavy weight division is not the best what good it will make to it having an additional division.

What happened yesterday was that Klitschko made a very intelligent and careful, but boring fight (except for a few moments), dominating with his jab the 12 rounds. He avoid exchanges preventing to be hit hardly. This may happen in other divisions where we have very tall boxers such as Williams at 147. If this is the case, then we may need weight and height limits for each division.

[Spicoli]

I remember alot of talk about creating another division years ago when guys like Grant,Goofy,Lewis etc were hitting there strides.

Personnaly I think size can be overrated at times.One more division would just water It down even further.Hey,Maybe Tye Fields would get that Title shot he Thinks he wants so bad............timber!

I think we just need Huge Heavys that do not take the term "fighting tall" to a pin point literal translation , But to each his own.

[bikersk]

What are you talking about, Chagaev beat Valuev and Valuev is WELL over 6'5


Heavyweight needs the big size differences it's supposed to be the relm of the best fighters and if there is a guy that's 5'10 210 that can beat a superheavyweight it adds drama to the division....if there is a big guy who can dominate in a violent manner that is bigger then it adds to the aura of invincibility.


If you make a superheavyweight division or up the weight for cruiserweight then you make a bigger cruiserweight division and who the fuck cares about cruiserweights? (aside from the Haye and Macca fans....crazy bastards)

Yeah fair point although Chagaev and Sultan have never beaten these big guys like Tyson used to. That's more what I was referring to, not just winning but beating them up.

[bikersk]

Chagaev v Valuev?
Sultan v Briggs?

Yes they won but certainly not in an exciting fashion such as Tyson or Tua could produce by beating big guys up. That's what I was kind of getting at.

[CutMeMick]

People are getting taller, larger and heavier and boxers are too. Given what I saw today there needs to be a cut off point because guys at 6'6 are fast and can move now but it doesn't make for a good fight when the other guy is so much smaller. When they fight a 6'2 guy it is not a contest. It's like a middle weight fighting a heavy. I think starting a Super heavy weight division would give more cred to the Heavies and give super heavies more opposition.

Ahhhh! No....
Come on bikersk... Were trying to cut down the # of divisions and you want to add one....

Like we need another 4 more titles/champs.... Fighters like Henry Armstrong, Joe 'Barbados Demon' Walcott fought through divisions regardless of weight, height, reach etc. etc. if those fighters did it why should we add another division now?

[bikersk]

Ahhhh! No....
Come on bikersk... Were trying to cut down the # of divisions and you want to add one....

Like we need another 4 more titles/champs.... Fighters like Henry Armstrong, Joe 'Barbados Demon' Walcott fought through divisions regardless of weight, height, reach etc. etc. if those fighters did it why should we add another division now?

Yes I know - I had a Homer Simpson moment DOH!! But I guess my thinking (very amber coloured tho it was) at the time was due to the average size of guys ever increasing it might be worth consideration. As it turns out maybe it's not worth considering. We could always get rid of straw weight and cruiser weight......... But hey nothing was ever achieved by stopping stupid people from saying dumb things.

[craigdurnin]

what about a james toney weight class 160 upto 500 pounds

[Pugilistic]

to be honest i feel we already have enough divisions

[Memphis]

Not the greatest of threads but it did spawn this little gem

Primo Carnera
Buddy Baer
Nicolay Valuev


Those are a couple reasons for NO superheavyweight division

[bikersk]

Not the greatest of threads but it did spawn this little gem

Ok Ok not my finest moment. It seemed oddly reasonable at the time though