There needs to be a super heavyweight division

[bikersk]

People are getting taller, larger and heavier and boxers are too. Given what I saw today there needs to be a cut off point because guys at 6'6 are fast and can move now but it doesn't make for a good fight when the other guy is so much smaller. When they fight a 6'2 guy it is not a contest. It's like a middle weight fighting a heavy. I think starting a Super heavy weight division would give more cred to the Heavies and give super heavies more opposition.

[SweetPea]

I don't think there should be a super heavyweight division. However, I wouldn't mind seeing the cruiserweight limit go up to about 210 or maybe 215.

[El Kabong]

There needs to be LESS divisions and LESS titles.


Primo Carnera
Buddy Baer
Nicolay Valuev


Those are a couple reasons for NO superheavyweight division

[bikersk]

There needs to be LESS divisions and LESS titles.


Primo Carnera
Buddy Baer
Nicolay Valuev


Those are a couple reasons for NO superheavyweight division

I guess I agree with that particularly less titles. When I had a more sober think about it, it does seem a bit unworkable anyway. Perhaps as sweetpea suggests the cruiser weight limit could increase, i'd then suggest it could be renamed Heavy weight and then have super heavy after that going from light heavy W to HeavyW makes more sense maybe than light H Cruiser W heavy W. Who put the cruiser in there anyway?

[boozeboxer]

I think they did have a superheavy type division. I watched Harry Funmaker and Butterbean fight one time......

[bikersk]

I think they did have a superheavy type division. I watched Harry Funmaker and Butterbean fight one time......

Yeah but that was in the extra super stupid weight division i thought?

[Memphis]

Not the greatest of threads but it did spawn this little gem

Primo Carnera
Buddy Baer
Nicolay Valuev


Those are a couple reasons for NO superheavyweight division

[bikersk]

Not the greatest of threads but it did spawn this little gem

Ok Ok not my finest moment. It seemed oddly reasonable at the time though

[DaxxKahn]

I don't think there should be a super heavyweight division. However, I wouldn't mind seeing the cruiserweight limit go up to about 210 or maybe 215.

I almost agree with that...If not for the fact IMO heavyweights are not going to stay so large....The average HW will be around 6'1"-6'4" 220-250 again with in a few years....

Besides like Lyle said there have not been too many great big big men...Valuev...OK fighter but not elite..average at best..his size is the only thing in his favor...

Who else?...Carnera, Baer, Whitiker, Grant, all fell on thier faces when pushed....The best big HWTS have been

The Klitschkos, and of Course Lennox Lewis....

I would count Foreman but he is really the norm of an average HW today plus he only stood 6'3"...and at his prime was around 225 I think.....

[El Kabong]

Also if you need depth in one division it's definently heavyweight!

[Taeth]

No way there isn't enough talent for them to split up the heavyweight division. Holyfield fought bigs and held his own, Chris Byrd in his prime could do it against most guys... I think a guy like Tyson in his prime would KO Klitschko for sure, same with Joe Frazier, or a lot of guys who would be considered too small... In fact I think if you are too big its a disadvantage because the little guys should have way more stamina (Valuev against Chagaev is an example) Big guys are too lumbersome, its just the little guys aren't in good enough shape, and they don't use creative methods to beat their opponent. They should watch Mayweather fight Corrales or Toney fighting bigger guys or how Tyson got inside. One thing they should do, and should have done for a long time is not allow the Taller guys to hold on the inside, It would have been a totally different fight if Wlad didn't tie Sultan up on the inside everytime he got inside, Tyson really suffered against Lennox and HOlyfield because they were allowed to tie him up, and I think they take away points much quicker than they do for it.

[WelshDevilRob]

Mike Tyson and David Tua are both under 6 foot and they had pretty good careers at Heavyweight and both beat much taller opponents.

No need for change.

[bikersk]

Mike Tyson and David Tua are both under 6 foot and they had pretty good careers at Heavyweight and both beat much taller opponents.

No need for change.

Yes you are spot on. However I guess it's the division where you may be fighting someone much heavier and taller and not just because they can eat the whole Macdonald's menu in one sitting ala Butterbean.

[eagle]

It probably wouldnt hurt to move all the weights up 5 pounds or so now that people are bigger in general. Start strawweight at 110, welter could be 152, SMW 173 and so on. HAHA as if it'll happen.

[bikersk]

In case people are wondering, I do realise it won't happen but was mainly thinking of the poor little sods who have to get in with these monsters . But I guess that's one of the attractions of the division and why it can be (at times) good to see a tiny 6 footer beat up a 6'5 + guy. It just hasn't happened for A while.