Pavlik's weight/Bob Arum

[DaxxKahn]

Fuck that, Pavlik weighed in on fight night like 3 or 4 pounds more than he normally does, they made sure that he wouldn't be much different than his middleweight self, Bernard Hopkins, who even though he weighed more did use that to win this fight, he used speed, timing, and Pavlik's flaws to win it.

Agreed....Pavlik as much as I like the guy is based really on the KO's of Miranda and wins over Taylor...This is why I made the "How do you make a P4P list"...People tend to over state a guy because he has a few good wins...That is not mean to detract anything from Kelly do not get me wrong he is a good fighter who nis still developing but his team put too much stock into his power.....A mistake that has happened too often in the past...

Like I said last night..It was a good fighter facing a great one

[irons]

Bob Arum and co thought it would be OK to pitch Pavlik in with Hopkins as they thought he doesn't use his weight against his opponents as much as some fighters do. Didn't matter thou, Hopkins beat him with speed and power.
To give Arum his due Hopkins wasn't the first pick for Pavlik. I'm sure I read that he was about 9th choice, he was short of options for any decent (and well paid) match-up.

[El Kabong]

All it proves is that Kelly needs a different fight plan at 168, he's going to have to get a little quicker with his hands, move a little better, and learn to be more of a pure boxer because the guys are 168 are very strong and Kelly won't be able to bully as many guys at 168 (and even fewer at 175) as he would at 160.


If Kelly is a great fighter, he'll learn, and he'll adapt...if he's just a good fighter he'll continue on at 160 and move up when 168 has gotten a little less depth.