My take on Froch - Taylor...

[OumaFan]

He might win a round or two. Calzaghe would be all wrong for him, he wouldn't be able to keep up. Hopkins even though he's a level above Taylor was a better matchup.

Nah he wouldn't win two rounds.

And he didn't lose so much to Pavlik the first time because of stamina. Outside of the second round Pavlik was winning the fight and I wouldn't say he was dead gassed in that seventh round. His stamina obviously didn't help him but it wasn't like the 12th last night, that reminded me a lot of Bute-Andrade.

[Tam Seddon]

I think Taylor has lost his desire for the sport, he even said in the interview that he had the money after the b hop wins and lost his focus. Maybe that was his prime, and he can never repeat that again. I think hes a superb fighter, but as I have said ever since the start he would have lost to Froch. Sustained pressure is something he couldnt take as proved in the Pavlik fight and Froch is similar in that respect. It's a great shame for him, but as I said before when the mid rounds had gone he was in the deep water and he couldnt keep Carl away from him. Great, great fight though!

[Kev]

I think Taylor has lost his desire for the sport, he even said in the interview that he had the money after the b hop wins and lost his focus. Maybe that was his prime, and he can never repeat that again. I think hes a superb fighter, but as I have said ever since the start he would have lost to Froch. Sustained pressure is something he couldnt take as proved in the Pavlik fight and Froch is similar in that respect. It's a great shame for him, but as I said before when the mid rounds had gone he was in the deep water and he couldnt keep Carl away from him. Great, great fight though!

I still think he'll come back, that was honestly the most aggressive and bad intentioned I'd ever seen Jermain. Its sad really that the only two times he has looked truly outstanding to me he got knocked out both times.

[Violent Demise]

Carl should thank God that Taylor is only a 10 round fighter and not 12. Taylor's weakness saved Carl from being a laughingstock. And all of you mthuafukkas know it. Carl gets the win on his record. Taylor should get an assist. He gave the fight away. Whoever had this fight even going into the last round can't score for shiit or is just a massive groupie.

This fight pretty much convinced me I was right about Carl. He's not close to being an elite fighter. And he sure as hell isn't the wrecking machine some of you guys were making him out to be. Where was the muderous power? The granite chin? I knew his defense was going to be poor coming in. But even I was shocked at how bad it really was. He's a sucker for a right hand. Taylor couldn't miss. Another thing I didn't see was the great offensive arsenal he was said to have. There was no arsenal. He was so predictable. Taylor blocked most of his punches till he started to tire. Carl is an average fighter. With average skills. But he does have heart. He ain't no punk. I will give him that. I didn't think he was going to get up in the 3rd. Not cuz I thought he was that hurt. But cuz he was being outclassed so badly I thought he would just say "fukk it" and quit. But he didn't. He got up and continue to press forward. He deserves credit for that. I have no doubt he has bigger balls (I'm sure Tam Seddon can confirm) than Calzaghe and Kessler have. With that being said i think both beat him. As would Bute and Andrade.

[Tam Seddon]

Carl should thank God that Taylor is only a 10 round fighter and not 12. Taylor's weakness saved Carl from being a laughingstock. And all of you mthuafukkas know it. Carl gets the win on his record. Taylor should get an assist. He gave the fight away. Whoever had this fight even going into the last round can't score for shiit or is just a massive groupie.

This fight pretty much convinced me I was right about Carl. He's not close to being an elite fighter. And he sure as hell isn't the wrecking machine some of you guys were making him out to be. Where was the muderous power? The granite chin? I knew his defense was going to be poor coming in. But even I was shocked at how bad it really was. He's a sucker for a right hand. Taylor couldn't miss. Another thing I didn't see was the great offensive arsenal he was said to have. There was no arsenal. He was so predictable. Taylor blocked most of his punches till he started to tire. Carl is an average fighter. With average skills. But he does have heart. He ain't no punk. I will give him that. I didn't think he was going to get up in the 3rd. Not cuz I thought he was that hurt. But cuz he was being outclassed so badly I thought he would just say "fukk it" and quit. But he didn't. He got up and continue to press forward. He deserves credit for that. I have no doubt he has bigger balls (I'm sure Tam Seddon can confirm) than Calzaghe and Kessler have. With that being said i think both beat him. As would Bute and Andrade.

To be honest with you VD the fight shaped the way exactly as I thought. I think your being over critical to the winner IMO, he showed that he was a champion last night by coming back from behind. I think your overratting how well Taylor did in there, Yes carl does have a leaky defence and can get tagged but its his stlye as Taylor would tell you which is difficult to hold off for 12 rounds. I do admit that the stamina issues were cleary in favour of Froch and that would be a reason for him winning the fight, however, YOU have to admit carls pressure over a sustained period of time would always cause Taylor problems and hes always struggled with fighters like that.

Which ever way you look at it, Carl is the winner of the fight, he finished stronger he got the KO no bullshit about it. Hes the winner, Taylor is the loser and we move on and see what happens next. Great win for Froch, no excuses he travelled to the other side of the pond and did the business, JC would NEVER have done that, nor would many other fighters. He got the win and thats the bottom line.

[DaxxKahn]

How long have we been telling people that the Cobra is for real Tam..?

2/3 years i reckon.

Showed what he's all about and that was a brilliant display of Bulldog spirit

Never doubted he'd beat Taylor for a second and i knew he'd take him from the end of the tenth (Taylor looked distressed and beaten sitting their) but fuck me he left it late.

I thought JT was superb last night for the record and it took Carl ages to get in range without getting clipped in the process.

Great nights work from Froch and he's gonna make serious money from now on..(he got just £480,000) last night

What fight were you and Tam watching?

I think Tam was high and imagined the scenario he described above, Froch did shit until the 11th rd, he looked like an idiot no less then 4 times did he take shots at Taylor just to miss and end up going face first towards the ropes as if he was an amateur starting out, His chin is not like Iron, it is not even like Pigs Iron, Taylor was never a hard puncher even at 160 let alone 168,

If Taylor did not tire he would be champ right now, if Taylor held through the 12th instead of just covering up he would be champ right now.....

Do you think Librado Andrade would fold to the shots Froch threw? Would Froch absorb the punishment he did last night against lets say Kessler and stay standing?

NO and to say different would be a lie,

Froch was exposed last night plain and simple

I give him credit though he did get up and he did keep fighting when he was down big and for that you can not deny his heart, he is a decent fighter but is he the best in the division?

No, he is not even third or 4th, Bute wanted Mick Hennessy to make a contract right then and there, he was drooling at the fact he could face Froch

After the fight Mick and Froch actually had the balls to say that Carl showed a P4P performance!!!!!!


He stayed up and scored the KO but in no way did he show anything last night, he got his ass kicked and kicked good.

How I wish Calzaghe would return to 168 just for a night w Froch......

I was less the 30 feet from the ring and I promise Froch at no time other then when Taylor tired did anything worth while...

He has heart and he was willing but it was Taylors stamina that won the fight for Froch last night

[Tam Seddon]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

[Violent Demise]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

Violent D always gives credit when it's deserve

[Violent Demise]

How long have we been telling people that the Cobra is for real Tam..?

2/3 years i reckon.

Showed what he's all about and that was a brilliant display of Bulldog spirit

Never doubted he'd beat Taylor for a second and i knew he'd take him from the end of the tenth (Taylor looked distressed and beaten sitting their) but fuck me he left it late.

I thought JT was superb last night for the record and it took Carl ages to get in range without getting clipped in the process.

Great nights work from Froch and he's gonna make serious money from now on..(he got just £480,000) last night

What fight were you and Tam watching?

I think Tam was high and imagined the scenario he described above, Froch did shit until the 11th rd, he looked like an idiot no less then 4 times did he take shots at Taylor just to miss and end up going face first towards the ropes as if he was an amateur starting out, His chin is not like Iron, it is not even like Pigs Iron, Taylor was never a hard puncher even at 160 let alone 168,

If Taylor did not tire he would be champ right now, if Taylor held through the 12th instead of just covering up he would be champ right now.....

Do you think Librado Andrade would fold to the shots Froch threw? Would Froch absorb the punishment he did last night against lets say Kessler and stay standing?

NO and to say different would be a lie,

Froch was exposed last night plain and simple

I give him credit though he did get up and he did keep fighting when he was down big and for that you can not deny his heart, he is a decent fighter but is he the best in the division?

No, he is not even third or 4th, Bute wanted Mick Hennessy to make a contract right then and there, he was drooling at the fact he could face Froch

After the fight Mick and Froch actually had the balls to say that Carl showed a P4P performance!!!!!!


He stayed up and scored the KO but in no way did he show anything last night, he got his ass kicked and kicked good.

How I wish Calzaghe would return to 168 just for a night w Froch......

I was less the 30 feet from the ring and I promise Froch at no time other then when Taylor tired did anything worth while...

He has heart and he was willing but it was Taylors stamina that won the fight for Froch last night

Now that is a post from a man who knows his Boxing. 100% agree.

[Fenster]

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

[Violent Demise]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

The response

"You know Carl is the man, give some slack for once VD"

LOL. Muthafukka I just did

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

At the end that is the final result.

BTW if you check the fight thread that night it's amazing how quiet Smash was as the fight was going on. And he was online

[CGM]

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

I don't really know how it went, but when you see a statement like this, then you know there has to be some kind of extenuating circumstance.

[Fenster]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

The response

"You know Carl is the man, give some slack for once VD"

LOL. Muthafukka I just did

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

At the end that is the final result.

BTW if you check the fight thread that night it's amazing how quiet Smash was as the fight was going on. And he was online

Well Taylor was winning the fight (easy IMO), so that's understandable. But the FRoch man still pulled it out the bag.

So if I were Smashup or Tam i'd be pretty fucking happy i'd told everyone so

[Violent Demise]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

The response

"You know Carl is the man, give some slack for once VD"

LOL. Muthafukka I just did

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

At the end that is the final result.

BTW if you check the fight thread that night it's amazing how quiet Smash was as the fight was going on. And he was online

Well Taylor was winning the fight (easy IMO), so that's understandable. But the FRoch man still pulled it out the bag.

So if I were Smashup or Tam i'd be pretty fucking happy i'd told everyone so

He showed heart. I'll give him that. But seriously. How the fukk can anybody have that fight even or even close going into the 12th round? That's bullshiit.

[RozzySean]

Smash and Tam can gloat and I'll eat my humble pie on this one. Froch is better than I thought.

In all seriousness, how may of us screamed bloody murder over the Andrade result? Bute was much further up on the cards than Taylor was, and in my honest opinion, Bute was outclassing Andrade more than Taylor was outclassing Froch. The better boxers were both outclassing the punchers, but the guys with more heart, stamina, and desire got their men in the end. Fair play to them. If you take credit from Froch, you gotta take it from Andrade, too. It was similar situation, except Froch had made it a closer fight than Andrade did.

That being said, last night confirmed a lot of things Froch critics like me have believed. This fight does not make him the man at 168, no matter what Tam made me put in the sig, but like it wouldn't have made Andrade (who is one of my favorites) the man if the ref wasn't eating retard pills. Froch is going to have trouble when he's in with a guy who can really punch. Kessler, Andrade, and Dirrell are nightmare matchups for him.

Froch should go for Bute. I'd probably favor him in that one. That's his best shot. Why waste your time on that nobody with the WBO belt. Either that or roll the dice with Pavlik.