Should Cotto not bother making weight?

[Kel]

After the contempt Mayweather showed in not making the agreed weight which was classless. Should Cotto do the same and just make the welter limit and beat up Pac?

The CONTRACTED weight was 147 with the stipulation that Mayweather would pay money for every pound he was over 144. So it wasn't mandatory.

Cotto is CONTRACTED to come in at 145 so he won't but if it wasn't mandatory he would.

Yeah but it was never mentioned until after the weigh in was it? But you already knew that.

[Mr140]

Well if i am honest about it i would rather see a fighter come in over. Reason why is who wants to see a fight when the other guy is drained. I mean i never want to see what happen to Oscar Dela Hoya happen to anyone. Just pay the money and move on, he couldn't make the weight o well i guess. Thats half the reason i dont like catch weights, if Cotto can not make it health. Then i dont care if he comes in at a pound over, I dont care for either fighter Pac or Cotto. But i dont want to see a skelton come in like Dela Hoya did so a pound doesnt bother me that much i guess.

[Kel]

Well if i am honest about it i would rather see a fighter come in over. Reason why is who wants to see a fight when the other guy is drained. I mean i never want to see what happen to Oscar Dela Hoya happen to anyone. Just pay the money and move on, he couldn't make the weight o well i guess. Thats half the reason i dont like catch weights, if Cotto can not make it health. Then i dont care if he comes in at a pound over, I dont care for either fighter Pac or Cotto. But i dont want to see a skelton come in like Dela Hoya did so a pound doesnt bother me that much i guess.

Yeah no one wants a replay of the Oscar fight, if he really can't make 145 in a healthy way I doubt he would have agreed.

[Mr140]

Yea i understand Kell not saying no one should make weight. Just if they cant make the extra pound then dont do it and pay the money needed.

[Diane]

After the contempt Mayweather showed in not making the agreed weight which was classless. Should Cotto do the same and just make the welter limit and beat up Pac?

The CONTRACTED weight was 147 with the stipulation that Mayweather would pay money for every pound he was over 144. So it wasn't mandatory.

Cotto is CONTRACTED to come in at 145 so he won't but if it wasn't mandatory he would.

Yeah but it was never mentioned until after the weigh in was it? But you already knew that.

Actually the contracted weight for Marquez/Mayweather was 144, the weight didn't get changed until the day of the weigh-in when it became clear that he wouldn't make weight.

Here is all the details about what happened.

Mayweather disrespected Marquez, boxing - ESPN

[Spicoli]

He should and I think he will.He's a professional and respects the sport.

If a fighter cannot will not make the weight,it should not be made regardless of status and names involved.No slight of hand gimmicks.

[Gandalf]

The CONTRACTED weight was 147 with the stipulation that Mayweather would pay money for every pound he was over 144. So it wasn't mandatory.

Cotto is CONTRACTED to come in at 145 so he won't but if it wasn't mandatory he would.

Yeah but it was never mentioned until after the weigh in was it? But you already knew that.

Actually the contracted weight for Marquez/Mayweather was 144, the weight didn't get changed until the day of the weigh-in when it became clear that he wouldn't make weight.

Here is all the details about what happened.

Mayweather disrespected Marquez, boxing - ESPN

Well said Diane. I'm sick of hearing excuses for Mayweathers weight antics. He cheated, end of story. Even his supporters should have their eyebrows more than raised by the carry on that took place.

As for Cotto. Well, he should make the weight like he agreed to in the contract. A fighter should have honour in what they do and making weight is an important part of that. I always look at Cotto as a no bullshit kind of guy.

[Diane]

Yeah but it was never mentioned until after the weigh in was it? But you already knew that.

Actually the contracted weight for Marquez/Mayweather was 144, the weight didn't get changed until the day of the weigh-in when it became clear that he wouldn't make weight.

Here is all the details about what happened.

Mayweather disrespected Marquez, boxing - ESPN

Well said Diane. I'm sick of hearing excuses for Mayweathers weight antics. He cheated, end of story. Even his supporters should have their eyebrows more than raised by the carry on that took place.

As for Cotto. Well, he should make the weight like he agreed to in the contract. A fighter should have honour in what they do and making weight is an important part of that. I always look at Cotto as a no bullshit kind of guy.

Cotto has honor, and is always professional, you can't say that about Mayweather. Cotto will honor the agreed upon weight, and make the 145.

[KalihiBoyHawaii]

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Cotto has integrity and an honorable man. Don't confuse the Cotto's with the Mayweathers.

Cotto will come in at the agreed weight.

[Mar]

After the contempt Mayweather showed in not making the agreed weight which was classless. Should Cotto do the same and just make the welter limit and beat up Pac?

welter yes any silly catchweight who cares. It's funny someone cries for integrity in a sport full of shady cheats. Do these same fans stay up at night upset cause the gang truce in l.a. Didn't hold up too ? Give me a freakin break guys are bending the rules with the ridiculous catchweights and lord knows the stuff we don't see behind doors. I noticed one thing that stayed true marquez and his people grabbed that 600k signed the new contract and didn't say shit. Honor and legacy I see once again got it's ass kicked by cash. Much as floyd haters cry and bitch even marquez understands that Spanish English or whatever. So let's not be so quick to bash floyd for loving money marquz just got his ass kicked in a fight he knew he couldn't win for the same reason you all hate the guy so much for. Money. And most of us have and would do the same damn thing. He'll nacho at no time could even act like he thought juan had a chance. He was chasin the green right along with the rest of em. Like clottey fighting at welter coming in the ring at 200 lookin like a black bolo is any better.

[Mao's Favourite Starling]

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. So let's not be so quick to bash floyd for loving money marquz just got his ass kicked in a fight he knew he couldn't win for the same reason you all hate the guy so much for. Money. And most of us have and would do the same damn thing

What the hell are you on about?

Marquez took a big-purse fight... as you say who can blame him!


PBF took a fight, twisted it and disrespected everything that is fundamental to boxing just so that he could have a victorious comeback!

If you are unable to see this then you are dillusional!

I for one am not 'bashing' PBF for loving money (hell if I had the IRS on my case for $6 million i'd do the same thing!) What I am 'bashing' him for is taking mugs like me and you for £20 (about $40 the way the $ is going!)to watch a complete mismatch on PPV!

The headline on box-office should have read Mayweather Jr v The IRS



Just fight Cotto you bully

[Dizaster]

. So let's not be so quick to bash floyd for loving money marquz just got his ass kicked in a fight he knew he couldn't win for the same reason you all hate the guy so much for. Money. And most of us have and would do the same damn thing

What the hell are you on about?

Marquez took a big-purse fight... as you say who can blame him!


PBF took a fight, twisted it and disrespected everything that is fundamental to boxing just so that he could have a victorious comeback!

If you are unable to see this then you are dillusional!

I for one am not 'bashing' PBF for loving money (hell if I had the IRS on my case for $6 million i'd do the same thing!) What I am 'bashing' him for is taking mugs like me and you for £20 (about $40 the way the $ is going!)to watch a complete mismatch on PPV!

The headline on box-office should have read Mayweather Jr v The IRS



Just fight Cotto you bully

By that it would have been a fair fight if Mayweather weighed in at 144 but it was a complete mismatch him weighing 146?

The fight was a mismatch to begin with. Marquez was always going to be way to small.
It was disrespectful for Mayweather to not make the effort to come in at the right weight, which he could have done with more work, but he made a choice that it wasn't that important and he'd be better off keeping comfortable..
It was cutting a corner.. cutting a corner at the expense of his opponent, and not great for boxing if this sort of thing happened all the time. Although that's kind of what we get with these catchweight fights.. A weight that is trying to bring 2 fighters together who perhaps don't belong in the ring with each other otherwise... And that's what we saw. Money does make the world go round and if the weight limit was set at 144 then the fight wouldn't have went on if Floyd weighed to much.. it wasn't, it was set at a price value, Marquez took the cash (and the disadvantage)... If those 2 pounds were going to make it a total mismatch where otherwise it would be competitive, then Marquez shouldn't have taken it...

But he did and we can now move on... And perhaps other fighters can learn something from this if they want someone to come down to a catchweight, then make it solid if it's going to be such an advantage for someone to weigh a few pounds over that..

I think Cotto will respect the weight set... Mayweather didn't but paid for it and won what he was always going to win..

[Mao's Favourite Starling]

By that it would have been a fair fight if Mayweather weighed in at 144 but it was a complete mismatch him weighing 146?

The fight was a mismatch to begin with. Marquez was always going to be way to small.
It was disrespectful for Mayweather to not make the effort to come in at the right weight, which he could have done with more work, but he made a choice that it wasn't that important and he'd be better off keeping comfortable..
It was cutting a corner.. cutting a corner at the expense of his opponent, and not great for boxing if this sort of thing happened all the time. Although that's kind of what we get with these catchweight fights.. A weight that is trying to bring 2 fighters together who perhaps don't belong in the ring with each other otherwise... And that's what we saw. Money does make the world go round and if the weight limit was set at 144 then the fight wouldn't have went on if Floyd weighed to much.. it wasn't, it was set at a price value, Marquez took the cash (and the disadvantage)... If those 2 pounds were going to make it a total mismatch where otherwise it would be competitive, then Marquez shouldn't have taken it...

But he did and we can now move on... And perhaps other fighters can learn something from this if they want someone to come down to a catchweight, then make it solid if it's going to be such an advantage for someone to weigh a few pounds over that..

I think Cotto will respect the weight set... Mayweather didn't but paid for it and won what he was always going to win..

Good point, but the fact remains that PBF dragged somebody up a heck of a lot! If weight was such a side issue wouldn't we just have a 'middleweight' band?

As I said in my previous post, lets see how masterful PBF is againts a true middleweight!! The guy has fought blown-up guys for the past 4 years imo. If he is as great as he likes to tell everybody that he is he needs to fight the guys you me and everybody knows he should fight!

He will get HURT and he knows it! Cotto will hand him his arse! I even think Clottey would worry Mayweather tbh