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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    I agree with most that Bruno would tear him a new one!!

    Good call by Baggins on Gary Mason. Mason v Bruno would've been very interesting and very hard to pick. I'd lean towards Bruno in that one aswell!
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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Bruno was a world Champ and beat a good fighter in oliver Mccall the only thing Danny ever did was beat a shot shell tyson and get hammered by Klit and Audley.

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Bruno every time.
    Williams couldn't handle the Bruno Sledgehammer
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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    silly question

    Bruno in his prime would have him out of there inside a round
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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oakleyno1 View Post
    bruno was beating lewis - who alot of people think was a top 10 all time heavy

    thing with frank is, tbh probabyl with the exception of MASSIVE punchers, not to say lewis wasnt he could hold his own with almost anyone, until he got hit! so could be bruno in 2 or 3 or williams in 5 or 6 lol

    but probs bruno
    The version of Lewis that fought Bruno is not the version of Lewis that made him great..

    Just to be fair to Lennox...

    To answer the question though IMO Bruno would win after some rough moments...
    I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

    After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

    Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

    You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

    You speak of nothing you know about....

    Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

    Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

    Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

    Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

    Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

    Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

    Akinwande was undefeated

    Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

    Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

    Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

    Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post

    The version of Lewis that fought Bruno is not the version of Lewis that made him great..

    Just to be fair to Lennox...

    To answer the question though IMO Bruno would win after some rough moments...
    I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

    After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

    Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

    You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

    You speak of nothing you know about....

    Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

    Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

    Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

    Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

    Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

    Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

    Akinwande was undefeated

    Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

    Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

    Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

    Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly
    I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

    You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
    Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

    Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Bruno was far better and his management team really put him in with poor fighters after his defeat to Witherspoon. Bruno would have beaten Danny and Mason but think he would have lost to Horice Notice.
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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Bruno was a decent fighter he would of been to much for Williams.

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

    After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

    Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

    You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

    You speak of nothing you know about....

    Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

    Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

    Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

    Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

    Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

    Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

    Akinwande was undefeated

    Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

    Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

    Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

    Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly
    I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

    You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
    Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

    Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.
    How can they be his biggest wins but the fighters be overrated?

    How tight a physique is does not determine skill set...(If that is the case Arreola has yet to hit puberty)

    I have every fight of Lewis on DVD he is my All time favorite HW and second all time favorite fighter....This is the reason why I feel comfortable with my argument....

    Lennox may have been more fit in terms of appearence but look at his older fights the Bruno one in particular since this is the one we are debating on...

    Notice Lewis was not as controlled, he did not have the composure that made him so good later on...Lewis swung to much for the fences...Look at how many shots he misses in the finish of Bruno alone....

    Lennox Lewis of 2000 did not go in swinging wildly he took his time and took his opp apart...He fought tall used his reach and jab like no one else in the division.....

    The HW division of the 1990's is considered by many to be the second strongest era of HW boxing outside of the 1970's...

    These guys may have fizzled out in the long run but many of them up until Lewis were either on top of their game or considered to be the nest big thing....

    The lesser guys of then would beat just about anyone but the Grimm Brothers today....

    The 1990's versions of Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Holyfield and Moorer certainly are steps above Chambers, Arreola, Povetkin, Chagaev etc.....

    Haye would not be the WBA champion that is for sure

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post


    You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

    You speak of nothing you know about....

    Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

    Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

    Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

    Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

    Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

    Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

    Akinwande was undefeated

    Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

    Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

    Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

    Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly
    I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

    You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
    Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

    Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.
    How can they be his biggest wins but the fighters be overrated?

    How tight a physique is does not determine skill set...(If that is the case Arreola has yet to hit puberty)

    I have every fight of Lewis on DVD he is my All time favorite HW and second all time favorite fighter....This is the reason why I feel comfortable with my argument....

    Lennox may have been more fit in terms of appearence but look at his older fights the Bruno one in particular since this is the one we are debating on...

    Notice Lewis was not as controlled, he did not have the composure that made him so good later on...Lewis swung to much for the fences...Look at how many shots he misses in the finish of Bruno alone....

    Lennox Lewis of 2000 did not go in swinging wildly he took his time and took his opp apart...He fought tall used his reach and jab like no one else in the division.....

    The HW division of the 1990's is considered by many to be the second strongest era of HW boxing outside of the 1970's...

    These guys may have fizzled out in the long run but many of them up until Lewis were either on top of their game or considered to be the nest big thing....

    The lesser guys of then would beat just about anyone but the Grimm Brothers today....

    The 1990's versions of Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Holyfield and Moorer certainly are steps above Chambers, Arreola, Povetkin, Chagaev etc.....

    Haye would not be the WBA champion that is for sure
    It's interesting though that of all the names you mentioned only Mercer and Akinwande were much over 30 when they fought Lewis, and in both cases that marked the end of their effective careers, neither won world titles after that.

    Most of them were in their late twenties when they were in their primes (according to you) and fought Lennox.

    Lennox was a great fighter, he'd have won those fights at 28/29 as well as at 33/34.

    Very much like Calzaghe he got his biggest fights late on in his career, but that doesn't mean he wasn't as good if not better earlier on.

    Bruno went in with an extrememly dangerous Lennox Lewis who was 29 years old. He wasn't green or inexperienced, he was a world class fighter then too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

    You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
    Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

    Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.
    How can they be his biggest wins but the fighters be overrated?

    How tight a physique is does not determine skill set...(If that is the case Arreola has yet to hit puberty)

    I have every fight of Lewis on DVD he is my All time favorite HW and second all time favorite fighter....This is the reason why I feel comfortable with my argument....

    Lennox may have been more fit in terms of appearence but look at his older fights the Bruno one in particular since this is the one we are debating on...

    Notice Lewis was not as controlled, he did not have the composure that made him so good later on...Lewis swung to much for the fences...Look at how many shots he misses in the finish of Bruno alone....

    Lennox Lewis of 2000 did not go in swinging wildly he took his time and took his opp apart...He fought tall used his reach and jab like no one else in the division.....

    The HW division of the 1990's is considered by many to be the second strongest era of HW boxing outside of the 1970's...

    These guys may have fizzled out in the long run but many of them up until Lewis were either on top of their game or considered to be the nest big thing....

    The lesser guys of then would beat just about anyone but the Grimm Brothers today....

    The 1990's versions of Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Holyfield and Moorer certainly are steps above Chambers, Arreola, Povetkin, Chagaev etc.....

    Haye would not be the WBA champion that is for sure
    It's interesting though that of all the names you mentioned only Mercer and Akinwande were much over 30 when they fought Lewis, and in both cases that marked the end of their effective careers, neither won world titles after that.

    Most of them were in their late twenties when they were in their primes (according to you) and fought Lennox.

    Lennox was a great fighter, he'd have won those fights at 28/29 as well as at 33/34.

    Very much like Calzaghe he got his biggest fights late on in his career, but that doesn't mean he wasn't as good if not better earlier on.

    Bruno went in with an extrememly dangerous Lennox Lewis who was 29 years old. He wasn't green or inexperienced, he was a world class fighter then too.
    I always break Lennox career into 2 phases....Pre Steward and Post Steward...Why my example of his being wild early on then as he got older he became more patient, accurate etc.....

    Kind of the same way as Wlad (NO I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING WLAD TO LENNOX PRIME FOR PRIME WLAD SEE'S RING LIGHT FROM HEAVEN EVERY TIME)

    But Like Lewis since Steward Wlad has changed for the better,,,He is not so panicked by getting caught by big shots (Though he is still a bit gun shy) he is more relaxed and lets his opp do his work for him....He doesn't chase his guy he stalks patiently using the minimum effort while getting the maximum results....

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Bruno was a world Champ and beat a good fighter in oliver Mccall the only thing Danny ever did was beat a shot shell tyson and get hammered by Klit and Audley.
    ...really? I mean Oliver was just durable and had some pop he was never that good, just right place right time.

    I think Frank Bruno was everything except smart (he never learned how to survive) and durable (which is more of a comment on his survival instinct instead of a dig on his chin)...I think Williams just gets battered pillar to post by a prime Bruno who hit hard enough to rock a prime Mike Tyson (the 1st ever to do so).

    When I think Bruno, I put him (justly or unjustly depending on your own opinion) on par with the likes of Hasim Rahman, Donovan Rudduck, and Tommy Morrison....and if those guys ever fought those would have been awesome matches (had they shared the same era). I also thought Bruno vs Holyfield/Bowe would have been nice as neither guy fought Prime big time punchers that often (if at all in Bowe's case)

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    I actually think a prime Bruno Dominate today's division.

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    Default Re: Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

    Bruno would be the 3rd best heavyweight around if he was in his prime right now.

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    Bruno would have destroyed Wlad. Fact.

    And Frank would have definitely smashed Williams... till he gassed and Danny unleashed the Brixton fury
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