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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
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    Again the thread starter misses the point. This really has very little to do with Boxing. I'm thinking that is something we can agree on. It was personal. Cotto's comments showed disgust and pure disdain towards Margarito. Perfectly understandable. It was personal. Get it? P.E.R.S.O.N.A.L. Personal. The man put his life in danger and pretty much mocked him afterwards. Dumbing it down even further for you, its means Margarito almost made Cotto go bye bye and than went Ha Ha afterwards. So with that much hostility and anger towards Margarito, one who think he would want to destroy Margarito. He didn't. What he did was fine if this was a simple boxing match. It wasn't. It was a grudge match set up for revenge purposes. It was personal. And you know it. Cotto told whoever would listen that he was done dirty. Yet when the time came for revenge he failed to take advantage of it. I respect Cotto as a fighter. Hard to respect him as a man. You obviously do cuz he's your man. And in your eyes he does no wrong

    I understand exactly what you mean in terms of expecting more of a battle from the opening bell because it was personal so you would think Cotto is going to do everything to just walk up to him and knock him out however you have to keep in mind that it is still his business so he cannot be emotional about it.

    Cotto like all fighters has one main goal and that is to win fights so they can get more fights and better money, he has to be a professional about it which he was and when he had the chance he traded a bit to unload some of the personal stuff on Margarito, when he did that at the end of the fight Tony landed some shots and Cotto bloodied a bit and everyone who wanted Tony to win got excited but by that time it was too late as the eye was damaged and it appears Margarito wasnt able to stay strong and agressive the same way as he was in the first fight not to mention a noticeable difference in the way Tony's punches were affecting Cotto...they didnt affect him at all.

    Trust me it chaps my ass too to hear these guys talk shit the way they do but again its the fight game you have to stay logical not emotional, Cotto did what any fighter should do in a fight no matter how personal it is for him.

    These guys are right about Antonio Margarito, Tony has an incredible chin and all of a sudden he has no pop in his punch. He looked pretty amatuerish in the ring, very slow punches and Cotto still ran from him and he did look like he took some shots that busted him a bit at the end of the night and thats coming from a journeyman like Margarito with no pop in his punch so while in comparison to the first fight Cotto looked amazing, put into persepctive he did pretty good against a shitty fighter with no punch, no speed, and one eye.

    I think even TitoFan and ElTerrible can see that their favorite fighter is quickly heading down hill, but he beat Margarito and thats the biggest win he will ever be remembered for, losing and then avenging a loss to a second rate fighter.
    Finally someone who comes close to understanding. Cuz really that's what this issue has been all about. Cotto won the fight. Cotto was in control the whole fight. Don't even think it was a bad stoppage when it was stopped. But I don't think he got revenge the way he should of. That's my one issue with him. Hard to call something "getting revenge" when at the end of it all your still the one who took the most damage in the 2 fights you had. He disappointed in that regard. Based on the injustice done to him and the danger his life was placed in he should of tried to put Margarito in a body bag. But he didn't. Call it what you want. Excuse it any way you want. Bottom line is he didn't do it. He didn't even try. Everybody knows it. But his 2 biggest groupies start acting like lil hoez when it gets mentioned. Why? It's a fact
    i get what the Vaginal Discharge is saying...and the people arguing with him are missing the point.

    i'll try to explain the confusion:

    most of the posters who object to VD's statements are thinking of this situation as that of a pro boxer trying to avenge his first loss. they think cotto's primary concern is to beat margarito and sustain the least damage doing so thereby proving that he is a better boxer; who got beat by someone who was using illegal handwraps. by beating him fair and square he shows that he would not have lost to margarito without the assistance of the illegal handwraps. situation resolved.

    VD is operating on the premise that cotto's life was put in danger and that he should therefore be trying to kill margarito. that he should have been trying to end his live in anyway he could regardless of the danger he may have been putting himself in. since cotto didn't kill him, or even try to, he failed miserably and showed that he has no heart.

    VD seems to think that only murdering margarito could have resolved the situation for cotto. and by extension everyone else.

    most boxing fans and cotto himself seem to be satisfied with resolving the situation in the ring. its legal, honest and true.

    the confusion seems to stem from the differences between the Venerial Disease and the majority of the members of this site: VD is a bitch pussy and everyone else are real men(and where applicable women).
    Damn. It took one of forums dumbest fucking members to get it. Or close enough to getting it. Toothless Rocco might be legally retarded and still signs his name with crayon but he got what I'm saying. This was not about boxing. This was really all about revenge. Now Cotto didn't have to kill Margarito. But he should of at least tried. According to Cotto and his followers Margarito could of ended his career. He should of try and done the same.

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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    i'm making fun of you.

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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Cotto got his revenge, he won, he did it in style, he stopped Margarito and he enjoyed it without going over the top, what more could he do other than kill the fighter in the ring and retire him for good. Must be a Mexican machismo thing that you would want more than that.
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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cotto got his revenge, he won, he did it in style, he stopped Margarito and he enjoyed it without going over the top, what more could he do other than kill the fighter in the ring and retire him for good. Must be a Mexican machismo thing that you would want more than that.
    Cotto said the man put his life in danger. Could of left his kids without a father. Like I said this had nothing to do with boxing. It was personal

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    After RE-injuring Margarito's eye didn't Cotto effectively end Tony's career? I mean Margarito had to go in front of the NYSAC board to get relicensed for this fight.

    I've seen Tony's face post fight, its not like Cotto went easy on him.

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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    After RE-injuring Margarito's eye didn't Cotto effectively end Tony's career? I mean Margarito had to go in front of the NYSAC board to get relicensed for this fight.

    I've seen Tony's face post fight, its not like Cotto went easy on him.
    I think that for VD, it would have taken a bit more and some extra anger, especially following some comments made by Cotto and his people. Personally, I think he got revenge good, it's just a matter of interpretation, really.
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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cotto got his revenge, he won, he did it in style, he stopped Margarito and he enjoyed it without going over the top, what more could he do other than kill the fighter in the ring and retire him for good. Must be a Mexican machismo thing that you would want more than that.
    Cotto said the man put his life in danger. Could of left his kids without a father. Like I said this had nothing to do with boxing. It was personal
    Im guessing you would now prefer for Cotto to roll up to Marg's house and do him , maybe a drive by shootin, with Ice T, like Boyz in the Hood.
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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol

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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol
    Cotto!!!

    Started by jabvargas24, 12-04-2011 06:01 AM


    Cotto vs. Margo II, some final thoughts..?

    Started by Mars_ax, 12-04-2011 05:02 PM

    I wanna see cotto vs canelo

    Started by Boxer4life, 12-04-2011 05:55 AM


    Two of the many stupid things Margarito said tonight..........

    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 07:17 AM


    Cotto vs Margarito III?

    Started by Maravilla2012, 12-04-2011 09:11 PM

    Gotta love this guy...

    Started by imp, 12-04-2011 05:47 AM

    Did the eye save cotto?

    Started by erics44, 12-04-2011 08:48 PM


    Arum want Cotto vs JCC JR

    Started by Pavlik, 12-04-2011 08:09 PM


    Cotto VS Mayweather...more competitve than Pac VS Mayweather

    Started by Onix, 12-04-2011 07:16 PM


    Am I the only one whos curious to hear cottos opinion on how...

    Started by Snakey, 12-06-2011 08:22 AM


    Scorecards for Cotto vs Margarito II


    Started by Mars_ax, Yesterday 05:14 AM

    This is to Margarito and all his whiney fanboys..

    Started by ElTerribleMorales, 12-05-2011 01:56 PM


    "I just wanted to stare at him... savor my victory." "He means nothing to me."


    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 06:46 AM

    Cotto's next move?

    Started by Abelardus, 12-06-2011 11:38 PM


    Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Started by TitoFan, 12-06-2011 01:07 AM


    ok so count them, I MADE ONE FUCKING THREAD DOUCHE. nice try though

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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol
    Cotto!!!

    Started by jabvargas24, 12-04-2011 06:01 AM


    Cotto vs. Margo II, some final thoughts..?

    Started by Mars_ax, 12-04-2011 05:02 PM

    I wanna see cotto vs canelo

    Started by Boxer4life, 12-04-2011 05:55 AM


    Two of the many stupid things Margarito said tonight..........

    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 07:17 AM


    Cotto vs Margarito III?

    Started by Maravilla2012, 12-04-2011 09:11 PM

    Gotta love this guy...

    Started by imp, 12-04-2011 05:47 AM

    Did the eye save cotto?

    Started by erics44, 12-04-2011 08:48 PM


    Arum want Cotto vs JCC JR

    Started by Pavlik, 12-04-2011 08:09 PM


    Cotto VS Mayweather...more competitve than Pac VS Mayweather

    Started by Onix, 12-04-2011 07:16 PM


    Am I the only one whos curious to hear cottos opinion on how...

    Started by Snakey, 12-06-2011 08:22 AM


    Scorecards for Cotto vs Margarito II


    Started by Mars_ax, Yesterday 05:14 AM

    This is to Margarito and all his whiney fanboys..

    Started by ElTerribleMorales, 12-05-2011 01:56 PM


    "I just wanted to stare at him... savor my victory." "He means nothing to me."


    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 06:46 AM

    Cotto's next move?

    Started by Abelardus, 12-06-2011 11:38 PM


    Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Started by TitoFan, 12-06-2011 01:07 AM


    ok so count them, I MADE ONE FUCKING THREAD DOUCHE. nice try though
    Okay you made one thread, but you posted in almost if not ALL OF THEM retard lol. I keep seeing your name as the last reply to most, so that's why I included you. It's okay though wipe that Cotto cum off your lips and you keep rooting hard for your man.

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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol
    Cotto!!!

    Started by jabvargas24, 12-04-2011 06:01 AM


    Cotto vs. Margo II, some final thoughts..?

    Started by Mars_ax, 12-04-2011 05:02 PM

    I wanna see cotto vs canelo

    Started by Boxer4life, 12-04-2011 05:55 AM


    Two of the many stupid things Margarito said tonight..........

    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 07:17 AM


    Cotto vs Margarito III?

    Started by Maravilla2012, 12-04-2011 09:11 PM

    Gotta love this guy...

    Started by imp, 12-04-2011 05:47 AM

    Did the eye save cotto?

    Started by erics44, 12-04-2011 08:48 PM


    Arum want Cotto vs JCC JR

    Started by Pavlik, 12-04-2011 08:09 PM


    Cotto VS Mayweather...more competitve than Pac VS Mayweather

    Started by Onix, 12-04-2011 07:16 PM


    Am I the only one whos curious to hear cottos opinion on how...

    Started by Snakey, 12-06-2011 08:22 AM


    Scorecards for Cotto vs Margarito II


    Started by Mars_ax, Yesterday 05:14 AM

    This is to Margarito and all his whiney fanboys..

    Started by ElTerribleMorales, 12-05-2011 01:56 PM


    "I just wanted to stare at him... savor my victory." "He means nothing to me."


    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 06:46 AM

    Cotto's next move?

    Started by Abelardus, 12-06-2011 11:38 PM


    Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Started by TitoFan, 12-06-2011 01:07 AM


    ok so count them, I MADE ONE FUCKING THREAD DOUCHE. nice try though
    Okay you made one thread, but you posted in almost if not ALL OF THEM retard lol. I keep seeing your name as the last reply to most, so that's why I included you. It's okay though wipe that Cotto cum off your lips and you keep rooting hard for your man.
    and I've posted in nearly every other thread on here dipshit it's a fucking boxing forum, and what have I been writing about in every thread? oh yea Cotto's win over Margarito, which well was the last big PPV event that just happened, come next week there will be like 8 different posts on Khan, have you EVER BEEN on this site when a fighter comes up HUGE? either way, you're probably just bitter that no one really played up the Ginger's win over Cintron
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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol
    Cotto!!!

    Started by jabvargas24, 12-04-2011 06:01 AM


    Cotto vs. Margo II, some final thoughts..?

    Started by Mars_ax, 12-04-2011 05:02 PM

    I wanna see cotto vs canelo

    Started by Boxer4life, 12-04-2011 05:55 AM


    Two of the many stupid things Margarito said tonight..........

    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 07:17 AM


    Cotto vs Margarito III?

    Started by Maravilla2012, 12-04-2011 09:11 PM

    Gotta love this guy...

    Started by imp, 12-04-2011 05:47 AM

    Did the eye save cotto?

    Started by erics44, 12-04-2011 08:48 PM


    Arum want Cotto vs JCC JR

    Started by Pavlik, 12-04-2011 08:09 PM


    Cotto VS Mayweather...more competitve than Pac VS Mayweather

    Started by Onix, 12-04-2011 07:16 PM


    Am I the only one whos curious to hear cottos opinion on how...

    Started by Snakey, 12-06-2011 08:22 AM


    Scorecards for Cotto vs Margarito II


    Started by Mars_ax, Yesterday 05:14 AM

    This is to Margarito and all his whiney fanboys..

    Started by ElTerribleMorales, 12-05-2011 01:56 PM


    "I just wanted to stare at him... savor my victory." "He means nothing to me."


    Started by TitoFan, 12-04-2011 06:46 AM

    Cotto's next move?

    Started by Abelardus, 12-06-2011 11:38 PM


    Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Started by TitoFan, 12-06-2011 01:07 AM


    ok so count them, I MADE ONE FUCKING THREAD DOUCHE. nice try though
    Okay you made one thread, but you posted in almost if not ALL OF THEM retard lol. I keep seeing your name as the last reply to most, so that's why I included you. It's okay though wipe that Cotto cum off your lips and you keep rooting hard for your man.
    and I've posted in nearly every other thread on here dipshit it's a fucking boxing forum, and what have I been writing about in every thread? oh yea Cotto's win over Margarito, which well was the last big PPV event that just happened, come next week there will be like 8 different posts on Khan, have you EVER BEEN on this site when a fighter comes up HUGE? either way, you're probably just bitter that no one really played up the Ginger's win over Cintron
    I been on this site longer than you have my friend and I been active since day one as far as checking it out and reading but I don't post frequently. But whatever, you're just a lil mad I called you out on your man crush lol. As far as the Ginger goes, we both know he would whoop your washed up fighters ass.

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    the ginger barely made it by "the washed up fighter's" smaller older less talented brother , lets not forget his biggest win is now Kermit Cintron, Cintron is the same guy that we would cast out as NOT one of our own (Puerto Rico), last guy who we would treat like that was John Ruiz, let ginger beat a real challenger at 154 and not some washed up never was, Alvarez should be fighting Molina up next and IMO it's a fight he'd get actual credit for, Cotto's already had a stellar career, it's not rocket science that he's wrapping it up now, anything else that he manages to do is icing on the cake, and you label him washed up yet he's still ranked #1 at 154, and the name is kinda a contradiction, Outspoken yet you never post or contribute anything of note
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    Default Re: Boxing 101: Heart ≠ Stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol

    You seem a bit misguided. I'll fix that for you. If you bother to go back and check, most of my posts are defenses against the ridiculous statements made by VD and a handful of other Cotto-haters and/or Margarito fanboys. I've started a handful of posts, but so what? It makes up for the times the forum is a little slow. So... sorry if you're offended by the number of Cotto posts. If it bothers you that much, you're welcome not to open them.

    Ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Perhaps Tito Fan and Morales should start their own forum dedicated to how godly Cotto is instead of making numerous threads about how great he is.. Seriously this might be the 100th thread posted by them two alone since the fight lol... It's like every point they are trying to make requires a different thread. Can't you just bump up the old one and add to it? NO! It must be a new thread! This is getting out of hand like when we had to make a forum just for Pacquiao fans lol

    You seem a bit misguided. I'll fix that for you. If you bother to go back and check, most of my posts are defenses against the ridiculous statements made by VD and a handful of other Cotto-haters and/or Margarito fanboys. I've started a handful of posts, but so what? It makes up for the times the forum is a little slow. So... sorry if you're offended by the number of Cotto posts. If it bothers you that much, you're welcome not to open them.

    Ok?

    Haha you guys are hilarious. You dont have to be offended if someone calls you a fanboy. It takes nothing away from your credibility or doesnt make any less manly.
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