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    Default Re: B-Hop vs Dawson ---- Who Wins???

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    I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

    I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

    Who wins?
    Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?
    That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

    Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.
    Did he really take the middle of the fight off or can he just not fight for twelve rounds? Somehow I think he'll be taking rounds off against Hopkins too. I definitely see this one going to points after both guys have successful rounds but Hopkins getting the decision.
    That is the question, true. But I tend to think it's more the former. It's true that he gets lazy too often. But the Pascal fight was particularly bad. He fought harder and more consistently against Johnson, Tarver, etc. And Johnson, at least, was way busier and put on way more pressure than Pascal -- so I don't think it's a stamina thing (plus, he was coming on strong at the end of the Pascal fight, once he realized he needed to -- clearly had plenty left in the tank). It's more like he gets bored/complacent, and figures he'll just win because he's more talented.

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    I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

    I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

    Who wins?
    Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?
    That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

    Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.
    Did he really take the middle of the fight off or can he just not fight for twelve rounds? Somehow I think he'll be taking rounds off against Hopkins too. I definitely see this one going to points after both guys have successful rounds but Hopkins getting the decision.
    That is the question, true. But I tend to think it's more the former. It's true that he gets lazy too often. But the Pascal fight was particularly bad. He fought harder and more consistently against Johnson, Tarver, etc. And Johnson, at least, was way busier and put on way more pressure than Pascal -- so I don't think it's a stamina thing (plus, he was coming on strong at the end of the Pascal fight, once he realized he needed to -- clearly had plenty left in the tank). It's more like he gets bored/complacent, and figures he'll just win because he's more talented.
    The ason Dawson struggled so badly with Pascal is that Pascal has speed and he was catching and hurting Dawson. Pscal is a decent puncher, he put Hopkins down a couple of times. Dawson was intimidated by Pascals speed and it made him hesitant to work, like Jones opponents used to be. He wasnt used to it after the old plodders hed faced. He got found out against Pascal and Calzaghe would have made him look like what Hopkins did to Pavlik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
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    I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

    I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

    Who wins?
    Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?
    That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

    Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.
    I don't think you are. His victory over Adamek may have been his best victory to date. I rate Adamek as having a p4p type of career in the sense that he's held titles in two divisions, one lineal title at cruiserweight, and beat a top ten Cris Arreola at heavyweight. It'll be even more impressive if Adamek beats Chambers in June. On that note, Dawson may be big enough to follow Adamek's footsteps and take a title at cruiserweight in a couple of years if he still is in the game.

    Dawson should beat Bhop this time around. This is the first time I can recall that Hopkins has been completely quiet leading up to a fight. Odd, right? I haven't heard Bhop saying one disparaging thing about Dawson. Usually, it's, "I don't lose to a white boy," or the like, but in this camp, radio silence. One theory is that purosefully he's not trying to upset Dawson because he fears motivating Dawson might be the wrong tactic. He wants Dawson to come into the fight as unmotivated as possible in the hopes that Dawson takes rounds off. Dawson's worst enemy is his focus. Maybe a motivated Dawson is a more focused Dawson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

    I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

    Who wins?
    Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?
    That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

    Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.
    I don't think you are. His victory over Adamek may have been his best victory to date. I rate Adamek as having a p4p type of career in the sense that he's held titles in two divisions, one lineal title at cruiserweight, and beat a top ten Cris Arreola at heavyweight. It'll be even more impressive if Adamek beats Chambers in June. On that note, Dawson may be big enough to follow Adamek's footsteps and take a title at cruiserweight in a couple of years if he still is in the game.

    Dawson should beat Bhop this time around. This is the first time I can recall that Hopkins has been completely quiet leading up to a fight. Odd, right? I haven't heard Bhop saying one disparaging thing about Dawson. Usually, it's, "I don't lose to a white boy," or the like, but in this camp, radio silence. One theory is that purosefully he's not trying to upset Dawson because he fears motivating Dawson might be the wrong tactic. He wants Dawson to come into the fight as unmotivated as possible in the hopes that Dawson takes rounds off. Dawson's worst enemy is his focus. Maybe a motivated Dawson is a more focused Dawson.
    Dunno bout that one. For Dawsons sake that better be a flawed theory or Hopkins already dictating the tempo. If Dawson isn't motivated enough to show some fire in the gut and finally make a statement in career then he's not getting there. Physically Dawson has all the tools but I've never seen him 'pounce' and demand the issue. If he goes in trying to out Hopkins Hopkins shame on him. Dawsons boogie man is in his own head, mentally I still think these guys couldn't be further apart.

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    Hopkins round ten
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    Some people like Hopkins. I don't. The guy is a dirty fighter, as is evident in the rematch with Dawson. He should have been disqualified after the fourth round.

    I'm done watching Hopkins. When I watch him fight, he just makes me angry. Disgusting lowlife, in my opinion. Wheres the honor and pride? Good sportsmanship?

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