Pantera blasts Abraham.... and he is right!

[El Kabong]

...yeah but those were tag-team fights...Ottke and the Ref vs the other fighter

[JohnnyKickAss]

Nah even Ottke faced a prime Robin Reid and Charles Brewer not to mention Anthony Mundine and Glen Johnson.

So far Abrahams record doesn't come close to Ottke's

HaHa...so far Mirandas doesn't either...

[Kev]

HaHa...so far Mirandas doesn't either...

Firstly Miranda isn't a champion Abraham is.

Secondly Miranda travelled to Germany to face Abraham, something that Abraham would NEVER do.

Thirdly he's also beaten Allan Green who is better than anyone Abraham has ever faced and will next fight Jean Pascal who again is better than anyone Abraham has ever faced, Miranda aside. He fought Kelly Pavlik also who is literally light years ahead of anybody Abraham has ever faced.

Miranda's opponents'

Eastman
Abraham
Green
Pavlik
Pascal


Abraham

Eastman
Miranda (home advantage though)

To be fighting Elvin Ayala in a world title defense is a farce. This was the guy Sergio Mora took as a tune up following a year layoff. The same fighter who David Banks beat twice.

Abraham as a world champ should have fought better opposition. Miranda's opposition is better than virtually every other prospect at 168 lbs.

In fact name another prospect at 160 or 168 who has fought better opposition than Miranda.

[Kev]

Oh and Green, Abraham and Pavlik IS better opposition than Otke ever faced

[ICB]

...yeah but those were tag-team fights...Ottke and the Ref vs the other fighter

Couldn't have said it better myself the ref in Ottke vs Reid was a disgrace enough said.

[RozzySean]

Firstly Miranda isn't a champion Abraham is.

Secondly Miranda travelled to Germany to face Abraham, something that Abraham would NEVER do.

Thirdly he's also beaten Allan Green who is better than anyone Abraham has ever faced and will next fight Jean Pascal who again is better than anyone Abraham has ever faced, Miranda aside. He fought Kelly Pavlik also who is literally light years ahead of anybody Abraham has ever faced.

Miranda's opponents'

Eastman
Abraham
Green
Pavlik
Pascal


Abraham

Eastman
Miranda (home advantage though)

To be fighting Elvin Ayala in a world title defense is a farce. This was the guy Sergio Mora took as a tune up following a year layoff. The same fighter who David Banks beat twice.

Abraham as a world champ should have fought better opposition. Miranda's opposition is better than virtually every other prospect at 168 lbs.

In fact name another prospect at 160 or 168 who has fought better opposition than Miranda.

Abraham isn't a world champion. He's a belt holder. Kelly Pavlik is world champion. In a division with such clear lineage, Abraham is nothing more than a contender.

That's nice thought, Abraham v Duddy. I'm pretty sure AA wins, but it might take German refs/judges.