Someone explain this to me (Floyd/Hatton weight issue)

[Beanflicker]

I realize this subject is almost a year old now, but with Ricky getting back into the swing of things seemingly, I've noticed its coming up again even from Ricky himself.

Apart from Joe Cortez, the biggest excuse for his loss was the weight they fought at. Both guys are the same height, Ricky started his career (and stayed) at 140, Floyd starts his career at 130. Ricky is known as the bigger fighter, a guy who balloons up between fights and kills himself to make weight.

So how would the fight have been any different if both men had to weight in at 140? People say Ricky isn't a WW. True, but neither is Mayweather. Mayweather is just a guy fighting in weight classes he has no business in because he's going where the money is.

So how would have 140 made the fight different? You'd think weighting at 147 would benefit Ricky more, because he's the guy who kills himself making weight. Would extra hours spent in the sauna cutting weight make Ricky better? Would making 140 be to PBF's detriment? Why? He's in shape 24/7, 365 and never has an issue making weight.

This seems to be the biggest excuse aside from Joe Cortez, and I NEVER understood it. The argument was Ricky didn't look good when he fought natural WWs, but PBF IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT.

[gudnite vienna]

it was just an excuse.. PBF is prob a natural at 140 at this stage in his life.. It was a fair fight and Ricky lost, and im a hatton fan..

[leftylee]

I ain't gonna even get involved in this thread

[CFH]

it was just an excuse.. PBF is prob a natural at 140 at this stage in his life.. It was a fair fight and Ricky lost, and im a hatton fan..

Yup. I've yet to hear anyone explain in a compelling manner why the weight made any difference.

[kingfrnk]

there is NO ISSUE floyd is just a better boxer period. and if he goes back to 140 he will still beat hatton. the main excuse i hear is that the ref didnt let Ricky fight his fight thats bullshit PBF didnt let Ricky fight his fight. no matter where its at PBF will always come out in top.

[gudnite vienna]

im afraid to say that how ever ricky would of approached this fight he was gettin beat, Mayweather is better in every department..

Saying that if a re-match does come off between these two in say 2010 at wembley i will be there without doubt, because you just never do know in boxing and ricky could just pull a major unset!!!

[Beanflicker]

it was just an excuse.. PBF is prob a natural at 140 at this stage in his life.. It was a fair fight and Ricky lost, and im a hatton fan..

Yup. I've yet to hear anyone explain in a compelling manner why the weight made any difference.

I know, its weird. Its been said SO MANY TIMES but no one has ever explained it. I even heard people use it BEFORE the fight even happened!

[gudnite vienna]

Has leftylee not got any idea why this weight issue has been mentioned about the fight..

[leggy]

im a hatton fan and he would never could never beat mayweather

[leftylee]

Has leftylee not got any idea why this weight issue has been mentioned about the fight..

If you want my opinion I'll send you a PM.

I don't like talking about Hatton in debates on here as things can get real heated at times. Then the insults start flying "Your just a fucking hater" "shutup groupie" etc. No need for it whatsoever.

[Tysonbruno]

I realize this subject is almost a year old now, but with Ricky getting back into the swing of things seemingly, I've noticed its coming up again even from Ricky himself.

Apart from Joe Cortez, the biggest excuse for his loss was the weight they fought at. Both guys are the same height, Ricky started his career (and stayed) at 140, Floyd starts his career at 130. Ricky is known as the bigger fighter, a guy who balloons up between fights and kills himself to make weight.

So how would the fight have been any different if both men had to weight in at 140? People say Ricky isn't a WW. True, but neither is Mayweather. Mayweather is just a guy fighting in weight classes he has no business in because he's going where the money is.

So how would have 140 made the fight different? You'd think weighting at 147 would benefit Ricky more, because he's the guy who kills himself making weight. Would extra hours spent in the sauna cutting weight make Ricky better? Would making 140 be to PBF's detriment? Why? He's in shape 24/7, 365 and never has an issue making weight.

This seems to be the biggest excuse aside from Joe Cortez, and I NEVER understood it. The argument was Ricky didn't look good when he fought natural WWs, but PBF IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT.

It was an excuse really he struggled with Collazo at 147lbs because he fought the wrong fight and made a hard fight of it he blamed the weight. Then he fought Mayweather at 147lbs and got knocked out partly he fought the wrong fight he was trying to hard smothering his own punches and end of the day it was Floyd Mayweather he was fighting P4P#1 in the world but again he blamed the weight. You can say Ricky is the bigger man because he walks around at 168-175lbs but its fat where Mayweather walks around at 154lbs and its solid muscle Ricky is 5ft 6inch and Floyd 5ft 8inch so in theory Mayweather is the bigger man even though he started at 130lbs but it is just an excuse really Ricky has proved this by saying he is willing to fight Oscar if he wins and he is a natural 154lbs fighter now and he is 5ft 11inch yet Oscar also started at 130lbs. I think Ricky's main problem is he changed his style to a bulldozing leading with his face style or should i say no style from the Kostya fight onwards to much body bag if you ask me thats why he struggled thing is he has strength advantage at 140lbs and got away with this style but at 147lbs these guys were as strong as him and his style was shot to pieces by them. Now he is with Mayweather and his style is getting better and will only get even better perhaps as well as strength he will have a good game plan and some technique and pull out a convincing win at 147lbs see when he fought Kostya is game plan was to hold and ruin his work keep his power out of the fight. Then after this fight Ricky was holding and mauling in all his fights getting away from Billy is the best thing he could have done he needs somebody who gives a plan B and C he had lost all his ring generalship but on Saturday it was plain to see he looked loads better and Mayweather will bring him back and more. One last thing away from the weight thing i think the body bag is what stopped his head movement just coming in hitting away at that big bag round billy's waist and while he was doing that Billy weren't giving him much to avoid.

[donnydarkoIRL]

A different ref would have seen Ricky go the distance in a similar manner as Paulie tried to do against Ricky, thats all.

[GAME]

I realize this subject is almost a year old now, but with Ricky getting back into the swing of things seemingly, I've noticed its coming up again even from Ricky himself.

Apart from Joe Cortez, the biggest excuse for his loss was the weight they fought at. Both guys are the same height, Ricky started his career (and stayed) at 140, Floyd starts his career at 130. Ricky is known as the bigger fighter, a guy who balloons up between fights and kills himself to make weight.

So how would the fight have been any different if both men had to weight in at 140? People say Ricky isn't a WW. True, but neither is Mayweather. Mayweather is just a guy fighting in weight classes he has no business in because he's going where the money is.

So how would have 140 made the fight different? You'd think weighting at 147 would benefit Ricky more, because he's the guy who kills himself making weight. Would extra hours spent in the sauna cutting weight make Ricky better? Would making 140 be to PBF's detriment? Why? He's in shape 24/7, 365 and never has an issue making weight.

This seems to be the biggest excuse aside from Joe Cortez, and I NEVER understood it. The argument was Ricky didn't look good when he fought natural WWs, but PBF IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT.

Floyd was coming down from light middleweight . Hatton was moving up from lightwelter

[Beanflicker]

I realize this subject is almost a year old now, but with Ricky getting back into the swing of things seemingly, I've noticed its coming up again even from Ricky himself.

Apart from Joe Cortez, the biggest excuse for his loss was the weight they fought at. Both guys are the same height, Ricky started his career (and stayed) at 140, Floyd starts his career at 130. Ricky is known as the bigger fighter, a guy who balloons up between fights and kills himself to make weight.

So how would the fight have been any different if both men had to weight in at 140? People say Ricky isn't a WW. True, but neither is Mayweather. Mayweather is just a guy fighting in weight classes he has no business in because he's going where the money is.

So how would have 140 made the fight different? You'd think weighting at 147 would benefit Ricky more, because he's the guy who kills himself making weight. Would extra hours spent in the sauna cutting weight make Ricky better? Would making 140 be to PBF's detriment? Why? He's in shape 24/7, 365 and never has an issue making weight.

This seems to be the biggest excuse aside from Joe Cortez, and I NEVER understood it. The argument was Ricky didn't look good when he fought natural WWs, but PBF IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT.

Floyd was coming down from light middleweight . Hatton was moving up from lightwelter

I realize that but how would the fight have been different at 140?

[GAME]

I realize this subject is almost a year old now, but with Ricky getting back into the swing of things seemingly, I've noticed its coming up again even from Ricky himself.

Apart from Joe Cortez, the biggest excuse for his loss was the weight they fought at. Both guys are the same height, Ricky started his career (and stayed) at 140, Floyd starts his career at 130. Ricky is known as the bigger fighter, a guy who balloons up between fights and kills himself to make weight.

So how would the fight have been any different if both men had to weight in at 140? People say Ricky isn't a WW. True, but neither is Mayweather. Mayweather is just a guy fighting in weight classes he has no business in because he's going where the money is.

So how would have 140 made the fight different? You'd think weighting at 147 would benefit Ricky more, because he's the guy who kills himself making weight. Would extra hours spent in the sauna cutting weight make Ricky better? Would making 140 be to PBF's detriment? Why? He's in shape 24/7, 365 and never has an issue making weight.

This seems to be the biggest excuse aside from Joe Cortez, and I NEVER understood it. The argument was Ricky didn't look good when he fought natural WWs, but PBF IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT.

Floyd was coming down from light middleweight . Hatton was moving up from lightwelter

I realize that but how would the fight have been different at 140?

Hatton might have survived until the 11th instead