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    gary shaw said tonight that even if darchinyan wanted to fight donaire, there's no chance he would let it happen coz he said donaire was "disloyal". the commentator said that he should do it to satisfy the fans but he said he'd rather have darchinyan fight montiel, marquez, vasquez. personally, i dont think darchinyan has a chance at anybody at bantam or super bantam. what do you guys think about what shaw said and/or darchinyans chances at weights about 115
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    gary shaw said tonight that even if darchinyan wanted to fight donaire, there's no chance he would let it happen coz he said donaire was "disloyal". the commentator said that he should do it to satisfy the fans but he said he'd rather have darchinyan fight montiel, marquez, vasquez. personally, i dont think darchinyan has a chance at anybody at bantam or super bantam. what do you guys think about what shaw said and/or darchinyans chances at weights about 115
    I believe Vic could fight well at bantam but superbantam may be too much of a stretch especially with the depth of talent in that division.

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    End of the day what has Donaire done since? Absolutely nothing... I see he is set to meet 'Cobra' Martinez next so it may well be his downfall!

    Whilst Darchinyan has shot to the top of his division & among the top fighters in the world. Considering many thought he was finished after the Donaire KO his achievements are nothing short of amazing!

    The Montiel fight needs to happen next!!!
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    honestly i think Montiel would give him the worst beating, just the combination of speed, plus power, and how well Montiel moves, i think he'd murder Darchinyan, then the big boys like Vazquez,Marquez, Caballero, and even Lopez would leave him a vegetable

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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Well I don't see how you can't reward a CHAMPION!!! but OK....

    Anyhow...

    At Bantam Vic would be a player possibly champion but at Super he would get blown out by the top tier...He is strong and can boxx but he has zero chance of holding off guys like Marquez, JuanMa, and certainly not Izzy...

    They would walk through the left of Darchinyans and starch him inside of 5
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    All he's got is mad power at 115lbs. Can he bring it at 122-126? If he can, a big "if" at that, does he have the size to get by without decent boxing skills? I seriously doubt, you can extend territory with a one trick... destroyer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Well I don't see how you can't reward a CHAMPION!!! but OK....

    Anyhow...

    At Bantam Vic would be a player possibly champion but at Super he would get blown out by the top tier...He is strong and can boxx but he has zero chance of holding off guys like Marquez, JuanMa, and certainly not Izzy...

    They would walk through the left of Darchinyans and starch him inside of 5
    I agree, at Bantam Vic will win a title. Leave the Super Bantams well alone, he doesn't beat any of the guys you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    End of the day what has Donaire done since? Absolutely nothing... I see he is set to meet 'Cobra' Martinez next so it may well be his downfall!

    Whilst Darchinyan has shot to the top of his division & among the top fighters in the world. Considering many thought he was finished after the Donaire KO his achievements are nothing short of amazing!

    The Montiel fight needs to happen next!!!
    Hasn't Vic said all along he wants to avenge the loss? Surely the Donaire fight is the most logical. Or does Shaw think Donaire would school his charge again and then leave him flat on his back? Montiel is no longer WBO champ at Super-Fly. So a move to Bantam is the only way that fight happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    End of the day what has Donaire done since? Absolutely nothing... I see he is set to meet 'Cobra' Martinez next so it may well be his downfall!

    Whilst Darchinyan has shot to the top of his division & among the top fighters in the world. Considering many thought he was finished after the Donaire KO his achievements are nothing short of amazing!

    The Montiel fight needs to happen next!!!
    Hasn't Vic said all along he wants to avenge the loss? Surely the Donaire fight is the most logical. Or does Shaw think Donaire would school his charge again and then leave him flat on his back? Montiel is no longer WBO champ at Super-Fly. So a move to Bantam is the only way that fight happens.
    I don't care much for paper titles but I think Montiel is fighting Morel on 28th March in defense of that organizations interim trinket. Besides Darchinyan/ Montiel at 115 will crown a Ring champion!!! So I see many reasons for it happening at 115.

    I agree with you that Darchinyan should get the opportunity to avenge his loss but at this stage I think Montiel is the bigger fight!
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    Default Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!

    Vic Darchinyan will always be known as "Donaire's B1tch" if the rematch doesn't happen.

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    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
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    It doesn't look like Montiel is fighting Morel now anyway, plus he has been 118 before (when he fought Gonzalez) & moved back down so I see now reason he wouldn't do the same again for a mega fight with Darchinyan.

    I think Donaire supporters should worry about the upcoming Martinez bout as there is a good chance imo that he get beaten.

    As for Mithalane I don't think he's that good, maybe it was the layoff that effected Donaire or his personal issues at the time.

    You have to think about it logically, I can see where Shaw is coming from & if it was me I'd be upset too & wouldn't want someone who had betrayed me to make money from me & I think you'd be the same!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    What a lot of Donaire supporters are forgetting is that before Darchinyan starched Mijares all the talk was about a potential Mijares/ Montiel fight, now that Vic has laid waste to Mijares all that attention has shifted to a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight which has the potential to be a great fight!!!

    I want to see a Donaire rematch but its not concievable that its is as big or as attractive or as important as a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight is at this time!

    A fight between Darchinyan/ Montielk will crown a Ring Jr Bantam champion. Its a fight between the #1 & #2 fighters in the division & between the 2 they have pretty much cleaned up the division, so a fight between the 2 is a no brainer to be next!

    Now if Donaire can even get past Martinez (lets face it: he looked like sh*t against Mithalane) then maybe we can talk about a rematch. But by that time Darchinyan may have moved on to more lucrative bout with the likes of Vasquez or Marquez.

    Those that think Darchinyan is ducking Donaire are seriously deluding themselves as I think Vic has proved he will fight anyone! Just because he is deciding to take on higher profile, just as difficult if not moreso than Donaire only means he is trying to increase his star potential & earning potential!
    I can't forget that Darchi mauled Mijares for I predicted it correctly that Darchi will defeat Mijares... One of the very few who predicted a Darchi win...

    Darchi vs. Montiel will be a good fight but Montiel is already moving to bantamweight and will be fighting for the interim WBO bantamweight title against Eric Morel. A temporary vacancy was created when bantamweight champ Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa is scheduled to challenge WBO super bantam champ JuanMa Lopez.

    As for Mthalane, I consider him a very good boxer... Even Darchinyan might have problems breaking down his tight guards and evading his power counters.

    Darchi is still very far from a Vazquez or Rafa fight. I think he will still have at least one fight at bantamweight before landing in those fights.

    We didn't say that Darchinyan is ducking Donaire... It's Gary Shaw who is avoiding to make a Donaire-Darchinyan rematch fight and since Shaw is part of Team Darchinyan then I think it's correct to say, Team Darchinyan is ducking Nonito Donaire...
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    It doesn't look like Montiel is fighting Morel now anyway, plus he has been 118 before (when he fought Gonzalez) & moved back down so I see now reason he wouldn't do the same again for a mega fight with Darchinyan.

    I think Donaire supporters should worry about the upcoming Martinez bout as there is a good chance imo that he get beaten.

    As for Mithalane I don't think he's that good, maybe it was the layoff that effected Donaire or his personal issues at the time.

    You have to think about it logically, I can see where Shaw is coming from & if it was me I'd be upset too & wouldn't want someone who had betrayed me to make money from me & I think you'd be the same!!!

    Why not Shaw look it at the other side of the coin?? Why not let Darchinyan maul Donaire in the rematch and punish that "disloyal/traitor" boxer?? At the same time, Shaw will receive praises from fans eager to watch this rematch fight...
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