Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

[JonesJrMayweather]

Its just stupid to blame SR, because i'm pretty sure he didn't tell ricky to walk his dumbass straight to PAC, Im sure he didnt tell him not to move his head. I'm sure he told him to keep his hands up...

Ricky chose to do it his way and got KTFO...and even if graham were in his corner the same thing would have happened. Hell If PBF were a bit more aggressive he would have stopped ricky inside of 6. Hatton is just one dimensional. No trianer would have helped him in that fight.

If anything Ricky should be blamed for making SR look bad as a trainer.

[Mar]

Too much is put on the trainers, floyd told ricky what to do. Rick has to do it....and he didn't, hell he didn't even follow the fundemental keep your hands up rule.

[Tysonbruno]

After the 1st round Hatton went back to the corner and got this advise from Mayweather Snr this isnt word for word as it was hard to hear Mayweather.

What i've been telling you about moving your head MAN! You've got to fake and faint you've got to faint and then catch him. Just trying to fall in and over power him don't over power him keep your hands up MAN! You should have been listening to me from day 1.

And also when Ricky first got back Lee beard was chuntering on he should be quiet Floyd was Boss and their should only be one voice.

And then Hatton went out for the 2nd round and reverted back to bulldozing again Perhaps Lee beard is the problem really its funny that both Floyd and Billy graham have had run ins with him.

[Tins06]

I dont think anyone is blaming Mayweather for Hatton losing.

But serios quistions can be asked about Floyd snr's proffesionalism as a trainer.Not showing up to training on time and what not.

Ricky has in no way made Floyd look like a bad trainer. That was all floyds fault.

[Taeth]

I dont think anyone is blaming Mayweather for Hatton losing.

But serios quistions can be asked about Floyd snr's proffesionalism as a trainer.Not showing up to training on time and what not.

Ricky has in no way made Floyd look like a bad trainer. That was all floyds fault.

In terms of proffesionalism, nobody should have ever expected much from Floyd Sr in the first place.

[Tins06]

I dont think anyone is blaming Mayweather for Hatton losing.

But serios quistions can be asked about Floyd snr's proffesionalism as a trainer.Not showing up to training on time and what not.

Ricky has in no way made Floyd look like a bad trainer. That was all floyds fault(sorry bout this double post IE crashed on me)

[ElTerribleMorales]

I have been doing that a bit. And, yes, Ricky needs to shoulder the blame for all of this. He chose the trainer, he chose to show nothing new nor even what we had seen before. It all played out in the most horrible fashion.

I do think Graham would have made him look better than that though. But that is neither here nor there. Snr sucks because he has no class. But Ricky chose a classless old pug for a trainer so he got what he paid for.

having no class has nothing to do with your ability to train a fighter, IMO Sr is still one of the best DEFENSIVE trainers around today, only thing is Hatton's style doesn't really mesh well with Sr's, he should of stayed with Graham for what was left of his career

After the 1st round Hatton went back to the corner and got this advise from Mayweather Snr this isnt word for word as it was hard to hear Mayweather.

What i've been telling you about moving your head MAN! You've got to fake and faint you've got to faint and then catch him. Just trying to fall in and over power him don't over power him keep your hands up MAN! You should have been listening to me from day 1.

And also when Ricky first got back Lee beard was chuntering on he should be quiet Floyd was Boss and their should only be one voice.

And then Hatton went out for the 2nd round and reverted back to bulldozing again Perhaps Lee beard is the problem really its funny that both Floyd and Billy graham have had run ins with him.

you can see than that Floyd Sr was telling Hatton the truth, he did have to keep his chin down and use head movement, IMO Ricky's biggest mistake was he tried to fight Manny in the center of the ring, he should of hunched down a bit and not fight so straight up, and should of jabbed to get in and push Manny to the ropes, where it would be his advantage, in terms of strength, i still say Ricky is stronger, remember strong doesn't always mean KO, Pacquiao put on a brilliant display, but Ricky also fought a dumb fight

[Gandalf]

I would argue that class has a lot to do with things. Snr. chose to do what he did. He was paid a lot of money to train a top level fighter and couldnt even walk him out of the ring.

That shows a lack of class. Or am I misreading you?

[ElTerribleMorales]

I would argue that class has a lot to do with things. Snr. chose to do what he did. He was paid a lot of money to train a top level fighter and couldnt even walk him out of the ring.

That shows a lack of class. Or am I misreading you?

i agree completely that that was classless, if you're gonna back a fighter, you should back him all the way, even after the defeat, not just dump everything on him, but what i'm saying is that no one can blame the loss on Floyd Sr, he did his part, he trained Hatton, and after the first told him exactly what he should have, Ricky didn't really listen and made the same mistakes, although i agree Floyd Sr's acts were classless, he's still a very talented trainer

[Gandalf]

I have been doing that a bit. And, yes, Ricky needs to shoulder the blame for all of this. He chose the trainer, he chose to show nothing new nor even what we had seen before. It all played out in the most horrible fashion.

I do think Graham would have made him look better than that though. But that is neither here nor there. Snr sucks because he has no class. But Ricky chose a classless old pug for a trainer so he got what he paid for.

[SweetPea]

Hatton's loss isn't Mayweather's fault. Hatton could have had Angelo Dundee and Eddie Futch working his corner and it wouldn't have made a difference. Or to put it another way, if Mayweather trained Pac and Roach trained Ricky, does anyone think Hatton wins? I sure don't.

Mayweather does deserve criticism for acting unprofessionally after the fight, but that's a separate discussion.

[blegit]

Hatton's loss isn't Mayweather's fault. Hatton could have had Angelo Dundee and Eddie Futch working his corner and it wouldn't have made a difference. Or to put it another way, if Mayweather trained Pac and Roach trained Ricky, does anyone think Hatton wins? I sure don't.

Mayweather does deserve criticism for acting unprofessionally after the fight, but that's a separate discussion.

That is a good way to put it and I totally agree. Hatton is the same ol' Hatton and he'll never learn to box. He is nothing but a smaller Jeff Lacy. He is in love with trying to brawl and overpower. It doesn't matter what you learn in training if you always go back to your same bad habits. I think that most any elite prime fighter who is agressive will put Hatton out in the first half of the fight. He is too hittable and even while getting hit he still does the same things.

[fan johnny]

Hatton's loss isn't Mayweather's fault. Hatton could have had Angelo Dundee and Eddie Futch working his corner and it wouldn't have made a difference. Or to put it another way, if Mayweather trained Pac and Roach trained Ricky, does anyone think Hatton wins? I sure don't.

Mayweather does deserve criticism for acting unprofessionally after the fight, but that's a separate discussion.

What if Roach told Ricky, Pacquiao skills are amateurish and he was to big for Pacquaio to hurt? It would give him false confidence. The door swings both ways my friend. He gets part of the blame for an ill prepared fighter stepping into the ring, just not the majority of it, which is with Ricky.

Well.... we could look at it from another perspective and that's all the blame is with Pacquaio!

Notice the example Pacquiao sets: "I'm just doing my job"

[Rocky Balboa]

mattboxingfan change the writing in your sig or actually Rocky did beat Mr T after he said that

[mattboxingfan]

mattboxingfan change the writing in your sig or actually Rocky did beat Mr T after he said that

Good point haddent noticed, thanks.