Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

[Tysonbruno]

Before he fought Cotto he was number 1 in light Welterweights and in Welterweights it was

1.Mosley
2.Mayweather
3.Cotto

And now Pac is number 1 is it me or is the world just so far up Pacquiao's ARSE!! granted he is P4P#1 but i think he should have just slipped in to Cotto's number 3 spot.

[AdamGB]

Maybe not P4P but at Welterweight you can't put him above Mayweather or Mosley...

[Gandalf]

I don't even class the Cotto/Pac fight as a proper WW fight. It was at a catchweight and I don't think any belts should have been on the line either.

Mosley is still number 1 as far as I'm concerned. I have no idea where Mayweather comes in at having last fought a LW and a JWW before that. Maybe Mosley, then Pac and only then Mayweather.

[HattonTheHammer]

Only right if you ask me

The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

1.Pacquiao
2.Mayweather
3.Mosley

[Lance Uppercut]

cotto beat mosely, and then Pac-May destroyed Cotto. I have no problem ranking him above Mosely.

[hackey]

Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

Come on, if you are going to use an example, pick another one. Even Roach said that prefight he could see needle tracks in De La Hoya's arms and knew it would be an easy night. The guy was weight drained beyond belief for that fight, something he was not for Mayweather.

[Rantcatrat]

It's close.

1. Mosley: he retains the #1 spot. He lost a razor thin decision to Cotto but then demolished a Margarito who had beat Cotto.
2. Pacquiao: beat Cotto who was consensus #2
3. Cotto/Floyd: has beat more top opposition at welterweight/jr. welterweight than any of the top guys: Clottey, Shane, Quintana, Judah, Malinaggi, Bailey etc.
4. Floyd/Cotto: has not fought one consensus top ten welterweight in five years. Biggest win at welterweight was probably over Baldomir or Marquez who is a lightweight.

Now, a p4p list would look very different. But, I don't see how you rank Floyd above Pacquiao or Mosley and probably Cotto at welterweight at least if the list is based on achievements in the weight class because Floyd hasn't done anything at welterweight...ever really. I could see him above Cotto because of Cotto's recent losses, but even that's close call.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, isn't any fight above 140 but below 147 considered a welterweight fight?

[killersheep]

Only right if you ask me

The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

1.Pacquiao
2.Mayweather
3.Mosley

Floyd fought ODLH at Light Middle, what does that have to do with the Welterweight rankings?

[Tysonbruno]

Only right if you ask me

The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

1.Pacquiao
2.Mayweather
3.Mosley

Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

[HattonTheHammer]

Only right if you ask me

The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

1.Pacquiao
2.Mayweather
3.Mosley

Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

Oscars prime weight was always welter, the quartey, whittaker and carr fights proved that years ago surely?

And didnt oscar come in at like 149 when he fought floyd? hardly a massive light middle was he

[Preme]

I don't even class the Cotto/Pac fight as a proper WW fight. It was at a catchweight and I don't think any belts should have been on the line either.

Mosley is still number 1 as far as I'm concerned. I have no idea where Mayweather comes in at having last fought a LW and a JWW before that. Maybe Mosley, then Pac and only then Mayweather.

i kind of see what you are saying but WW isn't 147 though, 147 is the limit, the WW division is 140.1 - 147lbs... there are fighters who come in under 140, judah usualy comes in around 145, floyd often has too...

its the same for every weight class, the number is the Limit for that weight, so it is right really.. (i don't agree on these contracted weights much, but a lot of other fighters have done.

anyhow how cares, in his next fight Floyd will have shut him and arum up once and for all.

[jamiebhoy]

Before he fought Cotto he was number 1 in light Welterweights and in Welterweights it was

1.Mosley
2.Mayweather
3.Cotto

And now Pac is number 1 is it me or is the world just so far up Pacquiao's ARSE!! granted he is P4P#1 but i think he should have just slipped in to Cotto's number 3 spot.

Agree totally mate, one fight doesn't mean he has cleaned up a division. It's a shame coz it's not him that's causing all the hype, he seems a nice humble bloke from what you can tell, but his shit gets your back up.

[Beanflicker]

I think its absolute bullshit because the only guy he fought and beat at Welterweight was Oscar.

The Cotto fight was an amazing win, but it wasn't at welterweight. If you want to fight at a catch weight, I don't see how that fight should count at any weight class. It did wonders for his p4p rankings, but how can it move him up at WW if the fight was not at WW?

[The Congressman]

I think its absolute bullshit because the only guy he fought and beat at Welterweight was Oscar.

The Cotto fight was an amazing win, but it wasn't at welterweight. If you want to fight at a catch weight, I don't see how that fight should count at any weight class. It did wonders for his p4p rankings, but how can it move him up at WW if the fight was not at WW?

147 is the WW limit. It means 141-147 is welterweight range. Pac-Cotto fight was a legit WW bout.

[blegit]

The Ring magazine has strongly been a Pac groupie so I don't take much offense to their opinion. Pac fought one welterweight in his career. Its not reasonable to have a guy beat one welterweight, not to mention at a catchweight, who was not even number 1 and then give him the number 1 spot. So basically 2 guys, not named Mosley, fight at a catchweight and Mosley's number 1 spot is on the line. LaughableBut I'm not going to get on Pac. His groupie's aren't his responsibility.