Dawson vs Ward

[Mars_ax]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

[IamInuit]

I believe the line between 168 and 175 to be a narrow one. Most 168 pounders today are light heavyweights. Seven pounds is just not that much this high up. I think it is however a little tougher to shed after 7 years. Its probably why Dawson tried to negotiate 170. Tbh I kind of think Ward showed a lack of balls by not agreeing to that. I mean he would not be defending his title but so what? Its not like if Dawson wins he's going to defend it. Looking forward to this pugilistic tutorial. Cant see either getting stopped.

[shza]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

I submit that every Devon Alexander fight is twice the stinker of a Ward or Dawson fight. He is literally my least favorite "world class" fighter (clincher/wrestler) to watch. At a minimum, the quality level will be much higher in Ward/Dawson than in either of those fights.

[shza]

Looking forward to this one really. Regardless of style, best fighting the best just sign me up. I actually see Dawson as more 'boring' as a ward who can be a very crafty cuss. Once it does get going I think Dawson will be gratefeul he had rounds with Hopkins, it will suit him well style wise. I have a sneaking suspicion though Ward will put on a show vs Dawson and take it on the cards.

On a side note I read that actor Nick cannon (?) will be the ring announcer I do hope Michael buffer manages to throws a stool at him and yell "get outta my house"

Seriously. I'll be at ringside and was hoping to get Buffer. I don't even know who Nick Cannon is.

[shza]

Dawson is a volume puncher. Wet and sloppy.

Have you ever watched Dawson fight? He's super accurate and doesn't throw a ton of volume. Sloppiness is not his problem at all -- he's one of the technically cleanest guys out there; his problem, as many have pointed out, is seeming disinterested and taking rounds off (see the Pascal fight). If there's any fight he'll be super motivated for and focused in, though, it's this one. I'll give the edge to Ward, because he just seems to have a ridiculously high will to win on top of his skill level; but this is close to a toss-up and would be a total toss-up for me if Chad weren't dropping weight for it.

[IamInuit]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

Hopefully they stagger these a bit or I'll be bouncing back from stream to stream.

I hear you Mars and there is a real possibility that it could be a little sleepy at times but I think its going to be the surprise of the year. I just think the two styles bode well for a boxing match given Dawsons range and being a southpaw. The only thing I see as a possible spoiler here is a bad clash of heads.

[Master]

Ward is extremely good at what he does and wins. He is more B Hop than Roy Jones. Andre will always beat Froch and the rest because he is that good. It would be in Froch interest for him to move up in weight or avenge Kessler because he will always remain number 2. Dawson fought B Hop to prepare himself for Ward, but I think Wards take a tight decision.

[johnsebastianmiran]

There are two factors and they are Dawson's albatross, the catch weight meaning he has to lose weight and box in a lower division which would reek havoc on his concentration as the bell rings for every round. As far as the excitement is concerned, You may have to get lucky and Dawson will be full of piss and vinegar or put a lump of hot coal under his shorts. Dawson has been coming in at 175lbs. for along time and he could over train or under eat causing him to react slower.

[Mars_ax]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

Hopefully they stagger these a bit or I'll be bouncing back from stream to stream.

I hear you Mars and there is a real possibility that it could be a little sleepy at times but I think its going to be the surprise of the year. I just think the two styles bode well for a boxing match given Dawsons range and being a southpaw. The only thing I see as a possible spoiler here is a bad clash of heads.

I'm sure i'll end up watching it Inuit, just because it's boxing and on HBO, what i'd like to see is Chad stomping a mudhole in Ward's ass, what will likely happen is a boring, hard to score decision, with Ward getting the nod.
All in all Sept 8th figures to be a full evening of boxing, Vitali Klitschko vs. Manuel Charr comes on Saturday afternoon here in the States, then later that night the HBO & Showtime fights come on. A smorgasbord of boxing for us fans.

[Mars_ax]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

I submit that every Devon Alexander fight is twice the stinker of a Ward or Dawson fight. He is literally my least favorite "world class" fighter (clincher/wrestler) to watch. At a minimum, the quality level will be much higher in Ward/Dawson than in either of those fights.

True dat, i'm just hoping Bailey knocks him out, and Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse should be a good one, Lucas rarely disappoints, and this is a title fight.

As for Chad/SOG, sorry, but it's got stinker written all over it, i'll be amazed if it isn't.

[IamInuit]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

Hopefully they stagger these a bit or I'll be bouncing back from stream to stream.

I hear you Mars and there is a real possibility that it could be a little sleepy at times but I think its going to be the surprise of the year. I just think the two styles bode well for a boxing match given Dawsons range and being a southpaw. The only thing I see as a possible spoiler here is a bad clash of heads.

I'm sure i'll end up watching it Inuit, just because it's boxing and on HBO, what i'd like to see is Chad stomping a mudhole in Ward's ass, what will likely happen is a boring, hard to score decision, with Ward getting the nod.
All in all Sept 8th figures to be a full evening of boxing, Vitali Klitschko vs. Manuel Charr comes on Saturday afternoon here in the States, then later that night the HBO & Showtime fights come on. A smorgasbord of boxing for us fans.

This far North I live under a bandwidth cap as only one supplier exists. Consequently my bills are off the charts. Lucky for me that I have no dependents other then my 2 pups.

I'm taking Chad. I just dont like Ward but its not just that because I'm no Dawson fan either. I just think the styles match up. And who takes the Nic SOG?

Dude was catered to for the entire tourney and now including this fight. It was scheduled for Vegas and now its the Oracle. Lets see this man fight in hostile territory or no mans land just once.

Not sure of the time dif. As I reply its 20 past 7 my time and I'm losing about 12 minutes a day now light wise. Soon it will be dark always.

[Mars_ax]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

Hopefully they stagger these a bit or I'll be bouncing back from stream to stream.

I hear you Mars and there is a real possibility that it could be a little sleepy at times but I think its going to be the surprise of the year. I just think the two styles bode well for a boxing match given Dawsons range and being a southpaw. The only thing I see as a possible spoiler here is a bad clash of heads.

I'm sure i'll end up watching it Inuit, just because it's boxing and on HBO, what i'd like to see is Chad stomping a mudhole in Ward's ass, what will likely happen is a boring, hard to score decision, with Ward getting the nod.
All in all Sept 8th figures to be a full evening of boxing, Vitali Klitschko vs. Manuel Charr comes on Saturday afternoon here in the States, then later that night the HBO & Showtime fights come on. A smorgasbord of boxing for us fans.

This far North I live under a bandwidth cap as only one supplier exists. Consequently my bills are off the charts. Lucky for me that I have no dependents other then my 2 pups.

I'm taking Chad. I just dont like Ward but its not just that because I'm no Dawson fan either. I just think the styles match up. And who takes the Nic SOG?

Dude was catered to for the entire tourney and now including this fight. It was scheduled for Vegas and now its the Oracle. Lets see this man fight in hostile territory or no mans land just once.

Not sure of the time dif. As I reply its 20 past 7 my time and I'm losing about 12 minutes a day now light wise. Soon it will be dark always.

That's another problem I have with most of Ward's fights, they're always in Oakland in front of his homies, who wants to see that shit.

As for the time dif, i'm in CDT here in Texas, so it's 2 hours earlier where you are, Klit vs. Charr is suppose to be shown on HBO, likely around 2:00 PM your time, but i'm not sure about the exact time.

[bigstinkybug]

i'm expecting a great fight... too much talent to be a snoozer. I've been posting on Scully's board for 7 years or so..scully is Dawson's trainer...super guy. if u guys aren't familiar with John Scully,... just saying.. the guy is as solid as they come... real gent.
U guys have a great board here... but feel free to visit ice man scully's board... they don't post as much as here..but real smart guys...

Scully used to post here I think.

He also cordially talked crap to me on facebook one time before the first Hopkins vs. Dawson fight.

*lol... well, me too... he has alot of boxer freinds and i talked smack about a few... and he comes to thier rescue alot of times...
*U know,Ice claims to never have taken a drink in his life... not even a shot or a sip.
*he spars regularly... like 10 rounds a week or somecrazy ... he was up to like a couple hundred for the year..lol
*he claims he doesn't run... but becuz of the sparing,it keeps him in shape.


* one thing about ICE is... he litterally knows and rubs elbows with all these fighters... i once asked him a question about what a fighter thought, and he said he'd ask him... lol..crazy.
*He once said he bought pizza for some bums and sat with them to hear thier stories..lol..
*ice is a pretty wild dude... i've gotten in some pretty crazy arguements in his forum and as we all know, these things get down right mean... Ice takes it and gives it... i gotten into boxing discussions where i got kicked out... that's one thing i can give ICE... he can take it.

[IamInuit]

Disagree with those who figure this to be a stinker.

I disagree Inuit, any fight SOG is part of is going to be a stinker, and Dawson's fights aren't much better.

I seriously doubt that i'll even bother trying to watch it, this is on Showtime Sept 8th, the same night:

At Las Vegas (Showtime): Randall Bailey vs. Devon Alexander, 12 rounds, for Bailey's IBF welterweight title; Ajose Olusegun vs. Lucas Matthysse, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim junior welterweight title.

Hopefully they stagger these a bit or I'll be bouncing back from stream to stream.

I hear you Mars and there is a real possibility that it could be a little sleepy at times but I think its going to be the surprise of the year. I just think the two styles bode well for a boxing match given Dawsons range and being a southpaw. The only thing I see as a possible spoiler here is a bad clash of heads.

I'm sure i'll end up watching it Inuit, just because it's boxing and on HBO, what i'd like to see is Chad stomping a mudhole in Ward's ass, what will likely happen is a boring, hard to score decision, with Ward getting the nod.
All in all Sept 8th figures to be a full evening of boxing, Vitali Klitschko vs. Manuel Charr comes on Saturday afternoon here in the States, then later that night the HBO & Showtime fights come on. A smorgasbord of boxing for us fans.

This far North I live under a bandwidth cap as only one supplier exists. Consequently my bills are off the charts. Lucky for me that I have no dependents other then my 2 pups.

I'm taking Chad. I just dont like Ward but its not just that because I'm no Dawson fan either. I just think the styles match up. And who takes the Nic SOG?

Dude was catered to for the entire tourney and now including this fight. It was scheduled for Vegas and now its the Oracle. Lets see this man fight in hostile territory or no mans land just once.

Not sure of the time dif. As I reply its 20 past 7 my time and I'm losing about 12 minutes a day now light wise. Soon it will be dark always.

That's another problem I have with most of Ward's fights, they're always in Oakland in front of his homies, who wants to see that shit.

As for the time dif, i'm in CDT here in Texas, so it's 2 hours earlier where you are, Klit vs. Charr is suppose to be shown on HBO, likely around 2:00 PM your time, but i'm not sure about the exact time.

Speaking of boredom

Jab, jab, grab. Rinse and repeat.

[DavilaJones]

To be hones I'd take a solid crisp snapping jab over 10 wild sloppy hooks any day of the week. I always appreciated a technical fight over a brawl because anyone can brawl but it takes a certain someone with a very specific set of skills that is honed over the years to truly box.