The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

[Althugz]

He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.

I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?

True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.

Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.

I agree with this. Also from the time Billy Graham and Hatton said that "Ricky is bigger than Floyd and if you're not bigger than Ricky, then you're in trouble!" then the weight card must go out the window, surely?

From some of the replies I think people are reading into this like it's a Hatton hate thread. I don't hate Hatton. I dislike his fighting style and can't particularly relate to him as a person but I have immense respect for him for seeking out all challengers after becoming a world champion. He is one of, it not the most popular British fighters of all time and although I disliked his style, that doesn't mean I think his style was ineffective. It was very effective and he was damn good at executing it. It simply wasn't to my personal taste.

[El Kabong]

I'm always happy Lyle - Would he have been more "effective" against Floyd or Collazo at 140? I personally don't think so. If so, how? Floyd was even more of a beast at 140 so we can accurately hypotesise how that fight would have gone. Collazo has always been a welter so we can only speculate but I thought his style was simply troubling for Ricky.

It depends really. I think the fighters you mention are different altogether. Floyd is P4P one of the best & Collazo never would fight at 140. Now we could take some guys Hatton fought or could have fought at 140 that mimicked those styles and we can talk.

Ricky Hatton fought Paulie Malinaggi at 140 already and it was an orthodox pressure fighter vs a slick southpaw & Ricky did pretty damn good. Ricky was up 99-91 on all 3 cards & stopped Paulie in 11. Versus Collazo Ricky was held at bay the entire fight and failed to impress at all.

This Senchenko guy Ricky is supposed to fight seems a bit weak having read what happened in the fight vs Paulie....so maybe Ricky can dominate, he certainly should.

[Althugz]

I'm always happy Lyle - Would he have been more "effective" against Floyd or Collazo at 140? I personally don't think so. If so, how? Floyd was even more of a beast at 140 so we can accurately hypotesise how that fight would have gone. Collazo has always been a welter so we can only speculate but I thought his style was simply troubling for Ricky.

It depends really. I think the fighters you mention are different altogether. Floyd is P4P one of the best & Collazo never would fight at 140. Now we could take some guys Hatton fought or could have fought at 140 that mimicked those styles and we can talk.

Ricky Hatton fought Paulie Malinaggi at 140 already and it was an orthodox pressure fighter vs a slick southpaw & Ricky did pretty damn good. Ricky was up 99-91 on all 3 cards & stopped Paulie in 11. Versus Collazo Ricky was held at bay the entire fight and failed to impress at all.

This Senchenko guy Ricky is supposed to fight seems a bit weak having read what happened in the fight vs Paulie....so maybe Ricky can dominate, he certainly should.

I don't think it's at all fair to compare Collazo and Mallignagi - They both lack power is about the only similarity I see. I don't find Mallignagi a slick fighter at all, he seems quite easy to hit in every fight I've seen and just uses his legs and reach from what I see. Collazo was awkward as hell. He could fight inside and hit you from awkward angles.

But yeah, I agree his comeback should answer many questions about where he is at this point and how much, if any toll his lifestyle has taken from him

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Wow..again, I need not say anything. I just hope everybody can see the immense irony in your post

It would have been ironic had i not been aware of what i was writing but seen as i included the old saying 'But when in rome'....

Feel free to call me out on that other board if you have an issue instead of crying on my thread making irrelevant rants.

What is this 8 mile!! U infant.

We're trying to have a discussion over here which has so far remained adult and on-topic. Thanks matey!

Post 32. LOL. Try to be consistant. One big fail again.

With regards to the topic at hand...Was hatton the same fighter at 147? Well collazo was a short notice opponent i believe after lazcano pulled out, so ricky (even though he won) had little time to study collazo, so had to adjust in the ring! Collazo is a southpaw and they are trickier fighters too! Collazo is one of hattons more underrated win's considering the circumstances!

The best 'physically' ive seen ricky was vs tszyu @ 140. The problem is his body wouldn't let him stay at 140 so the advantages he had at that weight diminished a little at 147. I wouldn't say he was uncomfortable at 147 but it is clear to anyone with A HEAD that hattons home was 140 (The manny fight should never have happened, he was over trained and over the hill!) Prime hatton @ 140 was a fighter to be reckoned with...but u can't produce those TSZYU type performances every in his prime fight! Respect must be given.

Truth be told though hatton was on a slow and steady decline post tszyu, his style of fighting, his lifestyle and his media darlingship all caught up with him slowly! Did hatton fight a prime tszyu and castillo? no. Did manny and floyd fight a prime hatton? no. It all works both ways.

[Beanflicker]

I never understood how "140 being his best weight" was relevant at all in regards to the Floyd fight. Floyd had no problem making 140, it was Ricky who had to cut a ton of weight to get down there.

Seems it just made it easier for him to fight at 147.