Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Results 1 to 15 of 35

Thread: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

Share/Bookmark

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Northern Canada
    Posts
    9,793
    Mentioned
    86 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1008
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
    This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    10,364
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1409
    Cool Clicks

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
    This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.
    Yet Floyd looked bigger than him come fight night. That's my point. Not how they walk around prior. What use is that? And in regards to Castillo... I'll prove it later tonight.

    Stay tuned.

  3. #3
    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    OK let's say the word "comfortable" doesn't apply I'll just use the word "effective". Ricky Hatton was never "effective" at 147......are you happy now?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    2,099
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1118
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    OK let's say the word "comfortable" doesn't apply I'll just use the word "effective". Ricky Hatton was never "effective" at 147......are you happy now?
    I'm always happy Lyle - Would he have been more "effective" against Floyd or Collazo at 140? I personally don't think so. If so, how? Floyd was even more of a beast at 140 so we can accurately hypothesise how that fight would have gone. Collazo has always been a welter so we can only speculate but I thought his style was simply troubling for Ricky.
    Last edited by Althugz; 10-01-2012 at 03:37 PM. Reason: typo

  5. #5
    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    I'm always happy Lyle - Would he have been more "effective" against Floyd or Collazo at 140? I personally don't think so. If so, how? Floyd was even more of a beast at 140 so we can accurately hypotesise how that fight would have gone. Collazo has always been a welter so we can only speculate but I thought his style was simply troubling for Ricky.
    It depends really. I think the fighters you mention are different altogether. Floyd is P4P one of the best & Collazo never would fight at 140. Now we could take some guys Hatton fought or could have fought at 140 that mimicked those styles and we can talk.

    Ricky Hatton fought Paulie Malinaggi at 140 already and it was an orthodox pressure fighter vs a slick southpaw & Ricky did pretty damn good. Ricky was up 99-91 on all 3 cards & stopped Paulie in 11. Versus Collazo Ricky was held at bay the entire fight and failed to impress at all.

    This Senchenko guy Ricky is supposed to fight seems a bit weak having read what happened in the fight vs Paulie....so maybe Ricky can dominate, he certainly should.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    2,099
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1118
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    I'm always happy Lyle - Would he have been more "effective" against Floyd or Collazo at 140? I personally don't think so. If so, how? Floyd was even more of a beast at 140 so we can accurately hypotesise how that fight would have gone. Collazo has always been a welter so we can only speculate but I thought his style was simply troubling for Ricky.
    It depends really. I think the fighters you mention are different altogether. Floyd is P4P one of the best & Collazo never would fight at 140. Now we could take some guys Hatton fought or could have fought at 140 that mimicked those styles and we can talk.

    Ricky Hatton fought Paulie Malinaggi at 140 already and it was an orthodox pressure fighter vs a slick southpaw & Ricky did pretty damn good. Ricky was up 99-91 on all 3 cards & stopped Paulie in 11. Versus Collazo Ricky was held at bay the entire fight and failed to impress at all.

    This Senchenko guy Ricky is supposed to fight seems a bit weak having read what happened in the fight vs Paulie....so maybe Ricky can dominate, he certainly should.
    I don't think it's at all fair to compare Collazo and Mallignagi - They both lack power is about the only similarity I see. I don't find Mallignagi a slick fighter at all, he seems quite easy to hit in every fight I've seen and just uses his legs and reach from what I see. Collazo was awkward as hell. He could fight inside and hit you from awkward angles.

    But yeah, I agree his comeback should answer many questions about where he is at this point and how much, if any toll his lifestyle has taken from him

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    2,099
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1118
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
    This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.
    I agree with this. Also from the time Billy Graham and Hatton said that "Ricky is bigger than Floyd and if you're not bigger than Ricky, then you're in trouble!" then the weight card must go out the window, surely?

    From some of the replies I think people are reading into this like it's a Hatton hate thread. I don't hate Hatton. I dislike his fighting style and can't particularly relate to him as a person but I have immense respect for him for seeking out all challengers after becoming a world champion. He is one of, it not the most popular British fighters of all time and although I disliked his style, that doesn't mean I think his style was ineffective. It was very effective and he was damn good at executing it. It simply wasn't to my personal taste.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 75
    Last Post: 03-23-2008, 12:25 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-22-2007, 02:09 AM
  3. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 11-12-2006, 02:42 AM
  4. The myth of Kermit "the Killer" Cintron...is it real?
    By Wacko3205 in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 11-03-2006, 01:55 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing