No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?

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He is 48 and yes he doesnt fight a dynamic style that looks like he could be on something but did Toney look like he was on them?

A year ago no one would have a bad word said against Lance Armstrong, if you did you were jealous and a hater. He has admitted now to using very suffisticated methods for years. Why would it be out of the realms of possibility for someone like Hopkins?

We have learnt with boxing when something looks too good to be true it generally turns out that way.

There was the time that Pascal asked him to take a test and Hopkins got more riled than I think we have ever seen him but gave no answer. Hopkins Pascal II press conference steroids issue and what they have to say after. - YouTube

Also, one of the best and simplest methods to test for any substances amd is like a diary depending on how long is hair testing and Bernard shaves his head. They use hair testing commonly for new recruits in the police and other job applications but have never cottoned on in boxing. Now could this he because it is too comprehensive and they would prefer the smoke screen of pathetic urine testing?

I cant help but be suspicious of Hopkins. Years ago at middle weight he was losing it against the likes of Taylor but now years later and at a higher weight his work rate has improved?

Hopkins threw and landed more against Cloud than he did in the Taylor rematch over 7 years ago! Even against Dawson he threw more and against Calzaghe he threw more still!

I'm a lil more suspicious about the slim chance, but a chance nonetheless, that Cloud and other opponents could be paid off to let B-Hop win. I'm a huge Hopkins fan and I believe his wins are authentic, but with boxing you never know...

As far as the Taylor example, well Bernard was DRAINED down to 160 at an advanced age so he really had to conserve his energy. And Jermain Taylor was unbeaten then and a very perceived threat. He was perceived as better than he was by the press, fans and Hopkins himself.

That is really really stretching it!

Over the last year alone how many fighters have been caught cheating? Then you have the whole Lance Armstrong thing that no body could ever accept before hand he would ever dream of cheating. Do not be fooled like Armstrong fooled every one. No 48 year old beats a 31 year old world champion in boxing. There have been far better skilled fighters than Hopkins but all have deteriorated with age. Suspicious is what it is and I will not believe he is not cheating u til he proves it and he did have a chance to put rumours to bed when Pascal brought it up but chose to be looked at under suspicion instead of awe.

[Bobthepen]

Was George Foreman cutting his steroids with butter then?

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Was George Foreman cutting his steroids with butter then?

Maybe he had the same stuff Toney did... by fuck people are thick! You don't look like adonis just because you took steroids! They will though enhance your performance.

Foreman wasn't outperforming his younger self. He wasn't throwing more punches in a fight than he used to.

[DavilaJones]

He is 48 and yes he doesnt fight a dynamic style that looks like he could be on something but did Toney look like he was on them?

A year ago no one would have a bad word said against Lance Armstrong, if you did you were jealous and a hater. He has admitted now to using very suffisticated methods for years. Why would it be out of the realms of possibility for someone like Hopkins?

We have learnt with boxing when something looks too good to be true it generally turns out that way.

There was the time that Pascal asked him to take a test and Hopkins got more riled than I think we have ever seen him but gave no answer. Hopkins Pascal II press conference steroids issue and what they have to say after. - YouTube

Also, one of the best and simplest methods to test for any substances amd is like a diary depending on how long is hair testing and Bernard shaves his head. They use hair testing commonly for new recruits in the police and other job applications but have never cottoned on in boxing. Now could this he because it is too comprehensive and they would prefer the smoke screen of pathetic urine testing?

I cant help but be suspicious of Hopkins. Years ago at middle weight he was losing it against the likes of Taylor but now years later and at a higher weight his work rate has improved?

Hopkins threw and landed more against Cloud than he did in the Taylor rematch over 7 years ago! Even against Dawson he threw more and against Calzaghe he threw more still!

I'm a lil more suspicious about the slim chance, but a chance nonetheless, that Cloud and other opponents could be paid off to let B-Hop win. I'm a huge Hopkins fan and I believe his wins are authentic, but with boxing you never know...

As far as the Taylor example, well Bernard was DRAINED down to 160 at an advanced age so he really had to conserve his energy. And Jermain Taylor was unbeaten then and a very perceived threat. He was perceived as better than he was by the press, fans and Hopkins himself.

That is really really stretching it!

Over the last year alone how many fighters have been caught cheating? Then you have the whole Lance Armstrong thing that no body could ever accept before hand he would ever dream of cheating. Do not be fooled like Armstrong fooled every one. No 48 year old beats a 31 year old world champion in boxing. There have been far better skilled fighters than Hopkins but all have deteriorated with age. Suspicious is what it is and I will not believe he is not cheating u til he proves it and he did have a chance to put rumours to bed when Pascal brought it up but chose to be looked at under suspicion instead of awe.

Archie Moore?

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He is 48 and yes he doesnt fight a dynamic style that looks like he could be on something but did Toney look like he was on them?

A year ago no one would have a bad word said against Lance Armstrong, if you did you were jealous and a hater. He has admitted now to using very suffisticated methods for years. Why would it be out of the realms of possibility for someone like Hopkins?

We have learnt with boxing when something looks too good to be true it generally turns out that way.

There was the time that Pascal asked him to take a test and Hopkins got more riled than I think we have ever seen him but gave no answer. Hopkins Pascal II press conference steroids issue and what they have to say after. - YouTube

Also, one of the best and simplest methods to test for any substances amd is like a diary depending on how long is hair testing and Bernard shaves his head. They use hair testing commonly for new recruits in the police and other job applications but have never cottoned on in boxing. Now could this he because it is too comprehensive and they would prefer the smoke screen of pathetic urine testing?

I cant help but be suspicious of Hopkins. Years ago at middle weight he was losing it against the likes of Taylor but now years later and at a higher weight his work rate has improved?

Hopkins threw and landed more against Cloud than he did in the Taylor rematch over 7 years ago! Even against Dawson he threw more and against Calzaghe he threw more still!

I'm a lil more suspicious about the slim chance, but a chance nonetheless, that Cloud and other opponents could be paid off to let B-Hop win. I'm a huge Hopkins fan and I believe his wins are authentic, but with boxing you never know...

As far as the Taylor example, well Bernard was DRAINED down to 160 at an advanced age so he really had to conserve his energy. And Jermain Taylor was unbeaten then and a very perceived threat. He was perceived as better than he was by the press, fans and Hopkins himself.