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    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?
    Knees already at 12 from throwing the right, knees 15%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?
    Knees already at 12 from throwing the right, knees 15%
    The stance to start with is both feet at 15% bent and both feet pointing to 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?
    Knees already at 12 from throwing the right, knees 15%
    The stance to start with is both feet at 15% bent and both feet pointing to 12?
    yes after the right.
    Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
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    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?
    Knees already at 12 from throwing the right, knees 15%
    The stance to start with is both feet at 15% bent and both feet pointing to 12?
    yes after the right.
    Need your advice started today at a new gym in Edmonton the coach is a big s.o.b maybe 6'4 blonde guy former sparring partner to Mike Tyson his stance is shoulder width apart, walking gait hands held high like Tyson. He teaches some wicked body shots and hard left hooks one of his fighters is going to the Nationals and another new fighter KO'd a guy in 28 seconds into his first fight. Problem is he puts his weight on the back foot is this good, but everything is dead on to what your saying. What is your advice stay with this guy that puts his weight on the back leg isn't that open to body shots or go find another gym?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?
    Knees already at 12 from throwing the right, knees 15%
    The stance to start with is both feet at 15% bent and both feet pointing to 12?
    yes after the right.
    Need your advice started today at a new gym in Edmonton the coach is a big s.o.b maybe 6'4 blonde guy former sparring partner to Mike Tyson his stance is shoulder width apart, walking gait hands held high like Tyson. He teaches some wicked body shots and hard left hooks one of his fighters is going to the Nationals and another new fighter KO'd a guy in 28 seconds into his first fight. Problem is he puts his weight on the back foot is this good, but everything is dead on to what your saying. What is your advice stay with this guy that puts his weight on the back leg isn't that open to body shots or go find another gym?
    Look at it this way, everything we do in movement is touch and feel. Now considering that the back foot is your distance. its a good way of knowing where you are for different movement to start with. Its your base, front foot direction. So it seems the coach has the fundamentals of movement, sounds good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
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    I got it both toes are pointing to 3o'clock the rear toe is pointed to 3o'clock to prevent the right hand from dropping. Question is if the rear toe is at 3o'clock starting out where is the lead toe pointing too?
    As you throw the hook both should be pointing at 12, at the finish of the hook between 2 and 3. Feet move shoulders and knees. Also its a good practice to lift the toes it stabilizes the muscles below the knee.
    Upon finishing with the R cross turn the rear knee to 12o'clock after striking with maximum leverage plus bending both knees 25%?
    Knees already at 12 from throwing the right, knees 15%
    The stance to start with is both feet at 15% bent and both feet pointing to 12?
    yes after the right.
    Need your advice started today at a new gym in Edmonton the coach is a big s.o.b maybe 6'4 blonde guy former sparring partner to Mike Tyson his stance is shoulder width apart, walking gait hands held high like Tyson. He teaches some wicked body shots and hard left hooks one of his fighters is going to the Nationals and another new fighter KO'd a guy in 28 seconds into his first fight. Problem is he puts his weight on the back foot is this good, but everything is dead on to what your saying. What is your advice stay with this guy that puts his weight on the back leg isn't that open to body shots or go find another gym?
    Look at it this way, everything we do in movement is touch and feel. Now considering that the back foot is your distance. its a good way of knowing where you are for different movement to start with. Its your base, front foot direction. So it seems the coach has the fundamentals of movement, sounds good.
    Went in morning and coach was teaching us how to throw a LH at the bag, when he hit the bag it sounded like gun shots more like a canon. The problem is, is that he stands erect like a metre stick and his chin is not down like it was taught at my old gym. Won't that be a problem inside the ring? Right now I'm a junior level fighter only 16.

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    As long as the knees are bent there isnt a problem. About the chin, it should not be down more than 15 degrees, where it should be is back. Why 2 reasons both with the same reasons. 1 stops the diaphragm from working by up to 50% chin back opens the airways, watch an opera singer. Plus it gives good posture, the heads in the place it should be, so you are not wasting energy by the shoulders supporting the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    As long as the knees are bent there isnt a problem. About the chin, it should not be down more than 15 degrees, where it should be is back. Why 2 reasons both with the same reasons. 1 stops the diaphragm from working by up to 50% chin back opens the airways, watch an opera singer. Plus it gives good posture, the heads in the place it should be, so you are not wasting energy by the shoulders supporting the head.
    Which is what he makes us do, however I've never seen this kind of technique before like when he throws the right hand the shoulders don't go across the knees even stranger when he throws the RH the right heel barely lifts off the floor resting on the balls of feet it also apprears that his back is so straight that it's almost leaning slightly backwards, with the chin bent 15% like you said. This a very new style because we're taught to kick the heel over coming up onto our toes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    As long as the knees are bent there isnt a problem. About the chin, it should not be down more than 15 degrees, where it should be is back. Why 2 reasons both with the same reasons. 1 stops the diaphragm from working by up to 50% chin back opens the airways, watch an opera singer. Plus it gives good posture, the heads in the place it should be, so you are not wasting energy by the shoulders supporting the head.
    Which is what he makes us do, however I've never seen this kind of technique before like when he throws the right hand the shoulders don't go across the knees even stranger when he throws the RH the right heel barely lifts off the floor resting on the balls of feet it also apprears that his back is so straight that it's almost leaning slightly backwards, with the chin bent 15% like you said. This a very new style because we're taught to kick the heel over coming up onto our toes.
    A tip, walk and understand where the foot generates maximum drive.also be aware where the head is in the relationship. theres a clue there.
    Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    As long as the knees are bent there isnt a problem. About the chin, it should not be down more than 15 degrees, where it should be is back. Why 2 reasons both with the same reasons. 1 stops the diaphragm from working by up to 50% chin back opens the airways, watch an opera singer. Plus it gives good posture, the heads in the place it should be, so you are not wasting energy by the shoulders supporting the head.
    Which is what he makes us do, however I've never seen this kind of technique before like when he throews the right hand the shoulders don't go across the knees even stranger when he throws the RH the right heel barely lifts off the floor resting on the balls of feet it also apprears that his back is so straight that it's almost leaning slightly backwards, with the chin bent 15% like you said. This a very new style because we're taught to kick the heel over coming up onto our toes.
    A tip, walk and understand where the foot generates maximum drive.also be aware where the head is in the relationship. theres a clue there.
    The old coach of the last gym that I was a member at taught that power was generated by the chest moving forward in this case the chest isn't going forward it looks like it's actually resting backwards at 15°.so where does the power come from?isn't the transference of bodily weight part of boxing? Also the new coach doesn't step into his punches instead he uses his back foot or what I mean to say is that he puts his hind leg back to get distance which is bizarre because I was always taught that one had to step into the punch to get power where coach puts his rear foot back to get distance,without moving the lead foot backwards.to be quite honest about it I was talking to one of the other trainers in the gym and they say that outside of the gym most trainers look on him as being a bad trainer because they think that by him,fighting off the back foot with his back straight up and tilted backwards that he's going to get hit coming in.but then the question is why does he have so much success with his fighters why is he sending a fighter to the nationals and he's trained other good fighters who have won the Golden gloves.it's weird I've never seen a style like this before. I am a little fearful that I might get hit coming in like the other trainers from other clubs say but then I trust you scrap.

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    Got me confused what takes you forward is the back foot. What takes you back is your front foot.
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    Got me confused what takes you forward is the back foot. What takes you back is your front foot.
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