Ward Outpoints Kessler!!!!!

[OumaFan]

OK, I watched it on YouTube, and I don't think the reffing was so biased or that Ward fought all that dirty. The ref didn't warn Ward for holding, because Kessler was holding just as much, and Ward was the only one doing any work on the inside. It would have been a lot different if Kessler was trying to get in to throw punches, and Ward was tying him up to stop him and get back out, but Kessler barely threw any at all on the inside.

The last headbutt was the only on that looked like it was intentional, but even that one could have been some awkward follow through after missing a punch.

I really don't see how you can say Ward fought a negative style, either. He was moving back for much of the fight, but threw and landed a lot of punches. He often pressed the action, even sometimes with an abandon that Kessler wasn't able to take advantage of.

The thing that bothers me about Ward is the whole fighting for the Lord BS. I guess Jesus just loves him more?

This is right on. All around.

I actually like Ward as a fighter and I love the fact that he pisses off so many people but seriously could you ask him a question (any question) and not get a monologue on God? I don't think so.

[markb018]

OK, I watched it on YouTube, and I don't think the reffing was so biased or that Ward fought all that dirty. The ref didn't warn Ward for holding, because Kessler was holding just as much, and Ward was the only one doing any work on the inside. It would have been a lot different if Kessler was trying to get in to throw punches, and Ward was tying him up to stop him and get back out, but Kessler barely threw any at all on the inside.

The last headbutt was the only on that looked like it was intentional, but even that one could have been some awkward follow through after missing a punch.

I really don't see how you can say Ward fought a negative style, either. He was moving back for much of the fight, but threw and landed a lot of punches. He often pressed the action, even sometimes with an abandon that Kessler wasn't able to take advantage of.

The thing that bothers me about Ward is the whole fighting for the Lord BS. I guess Jesus just loves him more?

This is right on. All around.

I actually like Ward as a fighter and I love the fact that he pisses off so many people but seriously could you ask him a question (any question) and not get a monologue on God? I don't think so.

agreed. Its pretty annoying with the Jesus stuff, I have to roll my eyes more often than not. I am a big fan of Ward though.

[markb018]

I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

[ElTerribleMorales]

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

[JazMerkin]

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

I'm pretty sure Bernard Hopkins & Roy Jones Jr are quite big names

* Add Jermain Taylor to that as well.

[Fenster]

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

My list is based on science, fact and unequivocal evidence.

Purely on a resluts to impressiveness ratio Jesus loses some points for "unintentionally" fouling his opponent. A TD is not as impressive as a UD, MD, SD, KO or TKO.

With the final three minutes missing we will never truly know whether or not Jesus would have made the finishing line. Kessler still had a chance to KO him.

Frochy won his fight with no controversy according the the laws of science. The judges found him a fair and square winner.

Therefore Jesus gets the three spot. Fact.

[OumaFan]

I would say you're being too over the top this time but yeah apparently not.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

I'm pretty sure Bernard Hopkins & Roy Jones Jr are quite big names

* Add Jermain Taylor to that as well.

you're supposed to be on my side Jaz lol and wouldn't really count the B-Hop "win" seeing how i had Hopkins beat Calzaghe by 2 rounds

[JazMerkin]

Look what you've all driven Fenster to. He's spouting utter bollocks. You should all be ashamed that you've driven the FACT man to this.

[JazMerkin]

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

I'm pretty sure Bernard Hopkins & Roy Jones Jr are quite big names

* Add Jermain Taylor to that as well.

you're supposed to be on my side Jaz lol and wouldn't really count the B-Hop "win" seeing how i had Hopkins beat Calzaghe by 2 rounds

I do think Fenster is wrong here, but the fact is Calzaghe has 2 wins over big US names, even if I had the B-Hop fight scored the other way, it was close.

Also as much as I despise him, Froch does have a legit win over Taylor. Not over Dirrell though, I will never countenance that as a win.

[Fenster]

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

I'm a Barbadian currently residing in Australia's Northern Territory. Fuck the Brits. Fact.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

I'm a Barbadian currently residing in Australia's Northern Territory. Fuck the Brits. Fact.

lmao

[BIG H]

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

With your 5 x bigger population than us, you shoud have 5 times more World Champions FACT

Heavyweights - 1 x British - 0 x USA
Light Heavy - 0 x British - 1 x USA
SuperMiddle - 1 x British - 1 x USA
Middle - 0 x British - 1 x USA
Welter - Light Heavy - 0 x British - 2 x USA
Jnr Welter - Light Heavy - 1 x British - 3 x USA
Feather - Light Heavy - 0 x British - 1 x USA

So for the main divisions, that's 4 British World Champions and 8 US World champions - only twice as many. Pound for pound Pro-Rata, we are far more succesful FACT

[JazMerkin]

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

With your 5 x bigger population than us, you shoud have 5 times more World Champions FACT

Heavyweights - 1 x British - 0 x USA
Light Heavy - 0 x British - 1 x USA
SuperMiddle - 1 x British - 1 x USA
Middle - 0 x British - 1 x USA
Welter - Light Heavy - 0 x British - 2 x USA
Jnr Welter - Light Heavy - 1 x British - 3 x USA
Feather - Light Heavy - 0 x British - 1 x USA

So for the main divisions, that's 4 British World Champions and 8 US World champions - only twice as many. Pound for pound Pro-Rata, we are far more succesful FACT

That's an interesting take on the 'main' divisions Big H

[ElTerribleMorales]

Froch ahead of Ward that is insane...Ward landed more punches in 1 round than Froch did his whole fight with Dirrell. Like ElTerrible has said, Ward beats the man who the majority have picked to win the whole thing, in a one sided beating and thats #3 on your list Im telling you all Ward is winning this whole thing, not sure if they will fight but the only person I see beating Ward is Dirrell, otherwise Andre goes undefeated

it's that Fenster has Yankee envy, it hurts him that a Brit hasn't beaten a big US name fighter since Lewis/Tyson , last chances was Hatton/Mayweather and well look how that turned out

With your 5 x bigger population than us, you shoud have 5 times more World Champions FACT

Heavyweights - 1 x British - 0 x USA
Light Heavy - 0 x British - 1 x USA
SuperMiddle - 1 x British - 1 x USA
Middle - 0 x British - 1 x USA
Welter - Light Heavy - 0 x British - 2 x USA
Jnr Welter - Light Heavy - 1 x British - 3 x USA
Feather - Light Heavy - 0 x British - 1 x USA

So for the main divisions, that's 4 British World Champions and 8 US World champions - only twice as many. Pound for pound Pro-Rata, we are far more succesful FACT

lol actually i don't represent the US, i'm PR all the way lol and our top guy got his ass handed to him last weekend hahaha, buuuuuut we hold the title of most champions per capita lol