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    Default If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Knowing what we know now and by judging what we have seen, do you think if Tony would have just let his hands go, that he would have beat Williams?

    I was going to create a poll but, I don't see how. I checked poll option below but no bars showed so I could enter any poll information.

    Anyway, we have a pretty good thing going here if the following happens.

    If Tony beats Cintron and many are picking Tony to win and if Williams beats the Q, we just might see a rematch even though punk ass Williams did not give Tony his rematch like Q did for Williams. I would like to see Tony vs Williams only this time, I would like to see Tony let his hands go. I think if he does let those hands go, he can beat Williams.

    Your thoughts?
    Last edited by SigmaMu; 03-24-2008 at 10:40 PM.

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    I think Margarito was hurt more by his slow start rather by not letting his hands go. But I don't think we'll see Margarito-Williams 2. Cuz I don't think Williams can beat Quintana.

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I think Margarito was hurt more by his slow start rather by not letting his hands go. But I don't think we'll see Margarito-Williams 2. Cuz I don't think Williams can beat Quintana.
    Well my post is a bit hypothetical but it will be sort of ironic if Tony wins and Quintana wins. Williams will be BEGING some one for a rematch and no doubt he will try to call out Tony, which I think since Williams did him dirty I think Tony should return the favor

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Williams won it from the early rounds IMO.

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    I don't think Quintana's win says much about Tony's loss. Quintana had success punching in between Williams punches and that's not how Margarito fights.

    Now obviously if Tony was more active then the fight would be different, but there is a scenario like that for every fight. He was beat to the punch most of the night and Williams was the first guy Tony ever faced who did beat him to the punch consistently, that's why the hands weren't moving and that's why he lost the fight.

    So maybe, but like I said there is a scenario like that for every fight and it's hardly relevant if Williams lost to Quintana or not because even if Margarito were to win, it wouldn't have been for the same reasons that Quintana did.

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    If Margarito would have started 1 DAMN! round sooner he would have won. It was the late start that hurt him....

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    If Margarito would have started 1 DAMN! round sooner he would have won. It was the late start that hurt him....
    Agreed i was screaming at the TV to let em go!!!

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G View Post
    Knowing what we know now and by judging what we have seen, do you think if Tony would have just let his hands go, that he would have beat Williams?
    Absolutely. In fact that's what I was yelling at the TV the entire fight. Although Williams's style was a problem for Tony, he really doesn't have the power to hurt him so I think Tony could have safely been much more aggressive. Also, I don't know if he just had a bad night, but he looked unusually slow and sluggish against Williams. If you watch the Golden Johnson fight, he just seemed a lot more energetic and aggressive. Maybe he didn't train 100% for Williams?

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    I think Margarito's punches were too wide and long.....Williams just got him with sheer volume. Had Toni connected then it would have been a different story

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    The slow start haunted Margarito.It was a yell at the screen fight for me as He waited in the first few rounds and Williams rolled into his mega multi punch pattern but Margarito was carrying the power to affect The glaring decent chin of williams if he would have put them together.The cut also had Paul bothered and vulnerable.

    Personally I would not mind a rematch with Margarito but I don't see Williams staying at Welter regardless of Quintana outcome.He looked slow,drawn and all to there to be tagged by Quintana who had him from the word go Imo.

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    That is what plagues Tony at times. He starts slow and waits and waits...

    Then in the next fight he comes out like a fireball and overwhelms his opponent. If he only would do the punches in punches routine every fight, he would knock all his opponents into a defensive shell and either outwork them or KO them.

    One of the most frustrating guys to watch for sure. We all know the powerful physical gifts he possesses, but sometimes he just does not use them. He then loses a fight that you know he could have won. Bitter F*cking aftertaste for sure.
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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    That is what plagues Tony at times. He starts slow and waits and waits...

    Then in the night fight he comes out like a fireball and overwhelms his opponent. If he only would do the punches in punches routine every fight, he would knock all his opponents into a defensive shell and either outwork them or KO them.

    One of the most frustrating guys to watch for sure. We all know the powerful physical gifts he possesses, but sometimes he just does not use them. He then loses a fight that you know he could have won. Bitter F*cking aftertaste for sure.
    Well said. Tony's one of my favorite fighters but if I had to describe him in a word it would be: inconsistent.

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    Default Re: If Tony would have just let his hands go, you think he would have beat Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    That is what plagues Tony at times. He starts slow and waits and waits...

    Then in the next fight he comes out like a fireball and overwhelms his opponent. If he only would do the punches in punches routine every fight, he would knock all his opponents into a defensive shell and either outwork them or KO them.

    One of the most frustrating guys to watch for sure. We all know the powerful physical gifts he possesses, but sometimes he just does not use them. He then loses a fight that you know he could have won. Bitter F*cking aftertaste for sure.
    I was just watching an interview where he promises never to start slow again. He said he is going to come out swinging from the first bell. I think Kermit is going to get knocked out again.

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