Hopkins-Calzaghe - A definitive debate. Fact.

[Fenster]

It's an undeniable fact that in the year 2002 Hopkins turned down a huge career high payday of $3million to face Joe Calzaghe. He initially accepted the challenge before shamefully demanding $6 million to face Joe, knowing full well that $6 million ended the negotiations.

The question is - why did Hopkins duck Calzaghe?

Discuss

[Fenster]

A Hop-Cal thread 30 mins and no reply. Shocking.

[Kirkland Laing]

He couldn't face getting beat by a white boy.

[ono]

He couldn't face getting beat by a white boy.

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[Fenster]

He couldn't face getting beat by a white boy.

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It's a fact.

Hopkins showed how badly he feared the white man when proclaiming "i'll never let a white boy beat me"

Luckily for him the yeehaws served up "one two plod plod Kelly" to save face. Fact.

[dl7481]

He couldn't face getting beat by a white boy.

Lol!

[mattboxingfan]

He couldn't face getting beat by a white boy.

LOL

Joe wasn't as established back in 2002 so when B-Hop would have lost to him it wouldn't have done his cred any good. But still it just shows how much of a joke he is B-Hop wouldn't fight a champion unless he got paid a stupid amount which he knew would never happen thus making the fight fall through.

[Mattyhitman]

It's an undeniable fact that in the year 2002 Hopkins turned down a huge career high payday of $3million to face Joe Calzaghe. He initially accepted the challenge before shamefully demanding $6 million to face Joe, knowing full well that $6 million ended the negotiations.

The question is - why did Hopkins duck Calzaghe?

Discuss

For me it's quite simple - He Knew He would lose - why else make such demands

He certainly would of stood a better chance than he did when he finally faced him at LHW. Im not saying he would of won, but maybe he would not of resorted to dirty filthy tactics which he did in the fight they did have

[Fenster]

Utterly great replies.

1. Bothered by the pressure of losing to a whitey.

2. Obviously scared of losing.

3. It's highly doubtful Hopkins would have lasted long enough against a 2002 Calzaghe to use dirty filthy cheating shameful tactics.

[Master]

I think he was waiting for ODH and a huge pay day against an easier opponent.

[HattonTheHammer]

the same reason most fighters at that level of their career duck opponents

he simply divided the pay day and the risk and decided it just wasnt worth it

I dont blame RJJ/hopkins/toney for ducking JC, far better paydays for an easier nights work back then

[JonesJrMayweather]

the same reason most fighters at that level of their career duck opponents

he simply divided the pay day and the risk and decided it just wasnt worth it

I dont blame RJJ/hopkins/toney for ducking JC, far better paydays for an easier nights work back then

Did you mean? I dont blame JC for ducking ,RJJ/hopkins/toney far better paydays for an easier nights work back then...

Roy's the only one that fought all of them, two in his younger/prime days....

[Phil]

Could have been he knew there was an easier fight against a smaller ODLH for more money like Master said,
that would make alot of sense,
it would have been good to see them fight with Hopkins not John Ruizing his ass, I think Joe still takes him though...

[Taeth]

It's an undeniable fact that in the year 2002 Hopkins turned down a huge career high payday of $3million to face Joe Calzaghe. He initially accepted the challenge before shamefully demanding $6 million to face Joe, knowing full well that $6 million ended the negotiations.

The question is - why did Hopkins duck Calzaghe?

Discuss

Where would the fight take place? I can't see Hopkins being scared of Calzaghe or Jones, but they had difficulties making negotiations despite the fact I doubt any of them were afraid of one another. Was Calzaghe willing to come to the states because if I recall I don't believe he was willing to prior to the Lacy and Kessler fights.

I don't see how the american is always criticized, and IMO a older Hopkins who had aged considerably physically over those years beat the younger Calzaghe in many people's point of view, mine included. Add the added stamina of a few years and the fact he was so much better technically and instinctively, and you have Hopkins working Calzaghe over as much as anyone would be able to against such a great fighter.

[Fenster]

It's an undeniable fact that in the year 2002 Hopkins turned down a huge career high payday of $3million to face Joe Calzaghe. He initially accepted the challenge before shamefully demanding $6 million to face Joe, knowing full well that $6 million ended the negotiations.

The question is - why did Hopkins duck Calzaghe?

Discuss

Where would the fight take place? I can't see Hopkins being scared of Calzaghe or Jones, but they had difficulties making negotiations despite the fact I doubt any of them were afraid of one another. Was Calzaghe willing to come to the states because if I recall I don't believe he was willing to prior to the Lacy and Kessler fights.

I don't see how the american is always criticized, and IMO a older Hopkins who had aged considerably physically over those years beat the younger Calzaghe in many people's point of view, mine included. Add the added stamina of a few years and the fact he was so much better technically and instinctively, and you have Hopkins working Calzaghe over as much as anyone would be able to against such a great fighter.

The deal was for the fight to be in the states (Hop leave the US - lol).

Hopkins turned down a career high payday of $3million to accept $250,000 paydays against Carl Daniels, Allen, Hakkar and the like.