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    Default Zbik was robbed!

    GC's Thoughts: Chavez-Zbik: What Did I Just Watch?

    This guy is right. I dont know what these judges saw.

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    Default Re: Zbik was robbed!

    I had Chavez winning with those body shots. Heads shot look prettier but I thought Chavez won a close one

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    Default Re: Zbik was robbed!

    I missed the first round as I was watching Froch Johnson but Chavez definitely deserved the win imo.

    He had Zbik hurt on several occasions and was doing some great work to the body. Zbik started well but down the stretch I had Chavez clearly bossing the fight.

    Good performance from him I thought. He struggled a bit early on against a surprisingly slivk opponenent but he kept his cool and worked the body and by the mid rounds was starting to take over the fight.

    I thought he won by about 3 rounds, no controversy there at all imo.

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    Default Re: Zbik was robbed!

    We've gone thru this before...
    Punch stats only show you numbers.
    They don't tell you the entire story.
    Also keep in mind punch stats is a person with a button.
    Who has just seconds to decide wether the shot is good or no good.

    I've said this before and I'll say it again the word "robbery" get's thrown around easily these days. A robbery is when a fighter clearly wins a fight. He clearly won more rounds and the rounds weren't even close.

    Ask yourself did Zbik clearly win the fight.
    He won everyround clearly? Or were the rounds close and could go either way?

    For example Froch-Dirrell, really close rounds for me.
    Some of them were hard to score not much action. Ultimately I think the fight could have gone either way. I have no issues with the decision.

    Now take a fight like Santa Cruz-Casamayor. Now that is a robbery.
    Evander-Lennox 1 now that is a robbery. Tiberi-Toney a full on robbery in broad daylight.

    There's robberies and then theres close fights.

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    Default Re: Zbik was robbed!

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    We've gone thru this before...
    Punch stats only show you numbers.
    They don't tell you the entire story.
    Also keep in mind punch stats is a person with a button.
    Who has just seconds to decide wether the shot is good or no good.

    I've said this before and I'll say it again the word "robbery" get's thrown around easily these days. A robbery is when a fighter clearly wins a fight. He clearly won more rounds and the rounds weren't even close.

    Ask yourself did Zbik clearly win the fight.
    He won everyround clearly? Or were the rounds close and could go either way?

    For example Froch-Dirrell, really close rounds for me.
    Some of them were hard to score not much action. Ultimately I think the fight could have gone either way. I have no issues with the decision.

    Now take a fight like Santa Cruz-Casamayor. Now that is a robbery.
    Evander-Lennox 1 now that is a robbery. Tiberi-Toney a full on robbery in broad daylight.

    There's robberies and then theres close fights.
    Well lets say we flip the punch stats and the flow of the fight...does Chavez win if he lands more, or Zbik?

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    Default Re: Zbik was robbed!

    Quote Originally Posted by mickeyholmes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    We've gone thru this before...
    Punch stats only show you numbers.
    They don't tell you the entire story.
    Also keep in mind punch stats is a person with a button.
    Who has just seconds to decide wether the shot is good or no good.

    I've said this before and I'll say it again the word "robbery" get's thrown around easily these days. A robbery is when a fighter clearly wins a fight. He clearly won more rounds and the rounds weren't even close.

    Ask yourself did Zbik clearly win the fight.
    He won everyround clearly? Or were the rounds close and could go either way?

    For example Froch-Dirrell, really close rounds for me.
    Some of them were hard to score not much action. Ultimately I think the fight could have gone either way. I have no issues with the decision.

    Now take a fight like Santa Cruz-Casamayor. Now that is a robbery.
    Evander-Lennox 1 now that is a robbery. Tiberi-Toney a full on robbery in broad daylight.

    There's robberies and then theres close fights.
    Well lets say we flip the punch stats and the flow of the fight...does Chavez win if he lands more, or Zbik?

    Considering he was landing what looked like clearly more solid shots, yes. And yes anyway because Chavez was always going to get the benefit of the doubt with the judges.

    But that's a different story. Regardless of whether or not he was going to get the benefit of the doubt, i don't think he really needed it. It was clear his shots were more consequential. Punch tracking is very overrated, there are landed punches and then there are landed punches.

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    Default Re: Zbik was robbed!

    Close fight, definitely no robbery. I thought JCC jr won a close decision, but in now way did i think Zbik did enough for it to be called a robbery.

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