Thread: victor ortiz wins, but is he back?

i think in order for him to really be back up there in his division he gota get a rematch with maidana and win, he was doing pretty good until he gave up.

what do you fighters think?

i don't know if he's "back" but i do know he looked much better defensively last night and he looked a little quicker than against maidana. the guy has some really good boxing skills when he uses them. i think he can be a major force in boxing with more experience and learning from his trainer.

i think that the last thing that should be on Ortiz' mind right now is a rematch with Maidana, they need to put the guy in with quality opponents but not world class guys, build up his confidence again and use fighters with different attributes to hone his own skills in different areas, then move up to world class guys like Maidana, Urango, Khan, Bradley, etc.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i think that the last thing that should be on Ortiz' mind right now is a rematch with Maidana, they need to put the guy in with quality opponents but not world class guys, build up his confidence again and use fighters with different attributes to hone his own skills in different areas, then move up to world class guys like Maidana, Urango, Khan, Bradley, etc.

that wont be a bad idea

Originally Posted by nyc champ

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i think that the last thing that should be on Ortiz' mind right now is a rematch with Maidana, they need to put the guy in with quality opponents but not world class guys, build up his confidence again and use fighters with different attributes to hone his own skills in different areas, then move up to world class guys like Maidana, Urango, Khan, Bradley, etc.

that wont be a bad idea

IMO this kid is still something special, and i'd hate to see his career wrecked cause people were in too much of a rush to make money off of him

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by nyc champ

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i think that the last thing that should be on Ortiz' mind right now is a rematch with Maidana, they need to put the guy in with quality opponents but not world class guys, build up his confidence again and use fighters with different attributes to hone his own skills in different areas, then move up to world class guys like Maidana, Urango, Khan, Bradley, etc.

that wont be a bad idea

IMO this kid is still something special, and i'd hate to see his career wrecked cause people were in too much of a rush to make money off of him

The names Fernando Vargas and Panchito Bojado come to mind.


Thats why I think that loss is the best thing to happen to him. If Vargas had rightfully lost to Wright then he may have went on to become one of the all time greats. So I think that Ortiz losing that way will help his career. Early losses don't hurt careers they can make careers. So now they should bring Ortiz along slowly against good fighters on a few more cards. What I like is he is boxing more.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i think that the last thing that should be on Ortiz' mind right now is a rematch with Maidana, they need to put the guy in with quality opponents but not world class guys, build up his confidence again and use fighters with different attributes to hone his own skills in different areas, then move up to world class guys like Maidana, Urango, Khan, Bradley, etc.

gee isn't that what is supposed to happen - they used to do it before all the media hype round fighters.

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i think that the last thing that should be on Ortiz' mind right now is a rematch with Maidana, they need to put the guy in with quality opponents but not world class guys, build up his confidence again and use fighters with different attributes to hone his own skills in different areas, then move up to world class guys like Maidana, Urango, Khan, Bradley, etc.

gee isn't that what is supposed to happen - they used to do it before all the media hype round fighters.

exactly, they were building him up right, but once the buzz started and people began to see the $$$ they could make on the kid they quickly rushed him to see if they could get a title around his waist, knowing full well he wasn't ready, i'm not the only person to say he wasn't ready for Maidana, but they did it anyhow

his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam