victor ortiz wins, but is he back?

[ElTerribleMorales]

his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam

he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work

[Violent Demise]

his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam

he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work

He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.

[ElTerribleMorales]

his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam

he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work

He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.

look at how many mistakes he was making, in defense, keeping his composure, etc.

[Violent Demise]

he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work

He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.

look at how many mistakes he was making, in defense, keeping his composure, etc.

Look at all the mistakes Maidana made. Was he not ready for the fight either? Yes he was. He handles adversity better than Ortiz.

[ElTerribleMorales]

He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.

look at how many mistakes he was making, in defense, keeping his composure, etc.

Look at all the mistakes Maidana made. Was he not ready for the fight either? Yes he was. He handles adversity better than Ortiz.

Maidana had already fought for a world title when he went up against Ortiz, this was Victor's title eliminator, added all the pressure put on him wouldn't doubt that it could have played a part

[Howlin Mad Missy]

his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam

he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work

He was ready for the fight. No doubt about that. Looked at the success he was having. Problem was he had no idea how to deal with adversity.

I'm not sure how much mental toughness can be taught tbh. I know having the right people round you can help but surely they can only work with what is there already. I know we're talking on a different scale but lots of people said it about Tyson, he boxed as a bully once someone (Hollyfield) had the skills to stand up to that it all crumbled....of course not everyone was aware of the extent of Tysons mental state but Hollyfield has always seemed to have the mental toughness to get him through.

[Kirkland Laing]

The next time he's in a war he'll crumble again.

[skel1983]

When was he actully here?

[Violent Demise]

The next time he's in a war he'll crumble again.

That wouldn't be a surprise. He'll land his shots. His opponent would land his. Ortiz will go down. He might get up the first time. And he might even return the favor. But once his opponent gets up again. Ortiz would pretty much be done

[Kel]

Lost all my respect for Victor after the Maidana fight with the way he acted after the fight and the way he acted in the post fight conference.

[BoxingGorilla]

The corner of Diaz did right by stopping.

I'm not sure if I'd of gone through ropes with two judges named Gizmo & Leerch watching my every move.

[zbolt]

his promoter bragged that he's the next big thing before the maidana fight then bam

he wasn't ready for that fight, but even there he showed he has the tools to live up to what he's being billed to be, just isn't quite there yet and needs some work

wish he/they could have pulled out from that fight if he wasn't ready

[Pavlik]

I think Ortiz will be a force in the welters and junior middleweight. El Terrible is right they should take time building up Vic. Speed, power and skill is definitely there!

[Nameless]

Personally, it's hard to say, for me at the moment it could be something like 50-50. I would like him to fight a medium opponent to tune up, get a bit more experience, see how he does against him and then launch him up again. I think he could be a force to be reckon with but things should be moved slowly just not to break something great in the making as it looks fragile at the moment.

[ono]

Problem is, he's shown all future opponents that he has a big weakness in his mental make-up. Agaianst Maidana he couldn't respond to adversity. Maidana asked some questions and Ortiz didn't have any answers really. Maybe he can be effective against guys who aren't as physically challenging or tough.