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Personally, I've never liked fights between boxers with such a height difference. It makes for awkward, sometimes boring fights. The Hearns of the 80's was a notable exception, and all his fights were wonderfully exciting. IMO, Williams should go up a couple of divisions to where he's fighting guys his own size.
It's very difficult for Cotto to make weight below 147... but sometimes huge money (maybe to the tune of $10M guaranteed purse) can convince you to agree to such terms...Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I don't know if Cotto could make 143-145, he looks pretty drained at the weigh-ins, certainly not as bad as he did at the end of his time at 140, but still looks to be pushing it a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Lo
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Pacquiao went up to 147 to humiliate the Golden Boy (pause while I smile at the memory), so why should Cotto go down below 147 to fight Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIt's very difficult for Cotto to make weight below 147... but sometimes huge money (maybe to the tune of $10M guaranteed purse) can convince you to agree to such terms...Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI don't know if Cotto could make 143-145, he looks pretty drained at the weigh-ins, certainly not as bad as he did at the end of his time at 140, but still looks to be pushing it a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Lo
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He is already doing this but no one can count him out of the 147 as he has been able to contend at this weight and at weights above. This makes Williams a unique p4p champion if he can continue to move down where he dont belong. Anyone can move up but moving back down is the freak thing and Williams is a freak at that so far. Ok wait, not any one can move up with out getting chased back down, so far Williams has been doing pretty good at moving up and down and that is special.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Remember the Golden Girl (a bigger star compared to Cotto) also went down to 147 to fight PAC... It's making compromises to make the fight more even and of course in exchange of huge money...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanPacquiao went up to 147 to humiliate the Golden Boy (pause while I smile at the memory), so why should Cotto go down below 147 to fight Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIt's very difficult for Cotto to make weight below 147... but sometimes huge money (maybe to the tune of $10M guaranteed purse) can convince you to agree to such terms...Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
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ODLH came down from 154. Cotto if he fought the winner would not be the guy going into the fight with the bargaining chips. He will probably have to take a smaller cut of the purse & have to at least fight at some kind of catchweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanPacquiao went up to 147 to humiliate the Golden Boy (pause while I smile at the memory), so why should Cotto go down below 147 to fight Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIt's very difficult for Cotto to make weight below 147... but sometimes huge money (maybe to the tune of $10M guaranteed purse) can convince you to agree to such terms...Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
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Also remember that GG was looking for "legacy cementing" fights no matter what the cost. He didn't hide (nor refute) the fact that he ran from potential fights with the likes of Margarito and Cotto himself. Hell... he would've taken on Ivan Calderon at 108 if he could starve himself that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerRemember the Golden Girl (a bigger star compared to Cotto) also went down to 147 to fight PAC... It's making compromises to make the fight more even and of course in exchange of huge money...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanPacquiao went up to 147 to humiliate the Golden Boy (pause while I smile at the memory), so why should Cotto go down below 147 to fight Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Cotto is much more interested in fighting at his own weight, against other mega fighters that the public wants to see. So I don't know what Cotto himself would say... but if it was me I'd say "You want me... come get me at 147."
What a fight this would be.. if it was against either Hatton or Pac Man. I'm not going to make a prediction yet as it's still early days (this fight would be in November-December I guess, presuming it's the very next one for Ricky or Manny).
But I think Cotto should focus on his own division rather than wanting to face naturally smaller guys, and he has plenty of competition in his own division.
Funny... you substitute De La Hoya for Cotto in the above sentence, and you've described the Golden Boy's recent mindset perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK
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As far as I can remember, it's some boxing writer(s) who started mentioning and wishing for a PAC-Cotto fight... then Cotto started to bite the bait by mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent... You know, this fight can be made if the money and weight class (or catch weight) can be agreed...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanAlso remember that GG was looking for "legacy cementing" fights no matter what the cost. He didn't hide (nor refute) the fact that he ran from potential fights with the likes of Margarito and Cotto himself. Hell... he would've taken on Ivan Calderon at 108 if he could starve himself that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerRemember the Golden Girl (a bigger star compared to Cotto) also went down to 147 to fight PAC... It's making compromises to make the fight more even and of course in exchange of huge money...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cotto is much more interested in fighting at his own weight, against other mega fighters that the public wants to see. So I don't know what Cotto himself would say... but if it was me I'd say "You want me... come get me at 147."
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Let's see what happens. One thing I DO know is that Cotto left 140 not a fight too soon. Amazing what a mere 7 pounds can do in the sport of boxing. At 147, I think neither Pac nor Hatton have much of a chance against him. At 140, it would make a world of difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerAs far as I can remember, it's some boxing writer(s) who started mentioning and wishing for a PAC-Cotto fight... then Cotto started to bite the bait by mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent... You know, this fight can be made if the money and weight class (or catch weight) can be agreed...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanAlso remember that GG was looking for "legacy cementing" fights no matter what the cost. He didn't hide (nor refute) the fact that he ran from potential fights with the likes of Margarito and Cotto himself. Hell... he would've taken on Ivan Calderon at 108 if he could starve himself that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Cotto is much more interested in fighting at his own weight, against other mega fighters that the public wants to see. So I don't know what Cotto himself would say... but if it was me I'd say "You want me... come get me at 147."
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Cotto beats both at 147 although i think Hatton will be a tougher fight for him.