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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
This is true. Cotto is done.
I don't think Cotto is done. But maybe Tony would ko him again; would be interesting to see.
I'm wondering after the battering that Tony took from Mosley if his punch resistance will be as great as it once was; sometimes those kinds of fights signal a deterioration overnight of those great chins.
Dont know who you are, but its clear you have 0 credibility and even less boxing sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
I mean to ignore the glaring facts and shift the spot light to... SURPRISE SURPRISE Floyd Mayweather is hilarious.
Mayweather is one of this generations best and a sublime fighter with an outstanding resume, and like a dope your trying to denigrate :vd:
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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.
Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.
It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.
Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion
hell Panama Lewis should be re-instated while we're added, i'm sure that he just removed the padding from his fighter's glove for it to fit more comfortably :rolleyes:, and he just had Gatorade in Pryor's black bottle :rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
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Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.
Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.
It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.
Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion
and why would Margarito have hand cream on before a fight? was he whackin it before goin in against Shane :S
I'd like to see him fight Junior Witter instead.
you know that's not gonna happen, wouldn't be shocked for them to call in Gavin Reese :rolleyes:Quote:
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If he gets past Alexander which I think he will. But I doubt Khan would fight anyone as dangerous as Witter unless there was some sort of title on the lineQuote:
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Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.
Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.
It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.
All is fine Legion no problems here :) I enjoy your posts I even agree with some of em ;D
You post a statement like this and then claim that I have 0 credibility and even less boxing sense??? ROFL Take a look in the mirror man youre describing yourself if you truly believe that about MayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockDont know who you are, but its clear you have 0 credibility and even less boxing sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
I mean to ignore the glaring facts and shift the spot light to... SURPRISE SURPRISE Floyd Mayweather is hilarious.
Mayweather is one of this generations best and a sublime fighter with an outstanding resume, and like a dope your trying to denigrate :vd:
Mayweather was born with amazing natural boxing talents and could indeed have reached the heights you place him at BUT he lacks the heart and cajones of the real fighter. He is a con man nothing more nothing less.
He's only back now because he's running short of $$$$$$$$$. Shoot he says himself " I'm just back to steal some more $$$$$$$". He treats his fans like crap Retires in tears like a weeping prima donna ROFL
Remember this prediction Mayweather will end up in a worse financial & physical shape than Mike Tyson. Once a street punk always a street punk
That is my personal opinion of Fraude Mayweather:lickish:;D
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Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.
Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.
It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.
All is fine Legion no problems here :) I enjoy your posts I even agree with some of em ;D
;D Well don't get too crazy.
I don't now all the details about the handwrap thing as of late; I just know he got suspended and so there was cause enough for that. Either way he would have needed C-4 in his gloves to beat Mosley on that night;D
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Originally Posted by C.J.RockYou post a statement like this and then claim that I have 0 credibility and even less boxing sense??? ROFL Take a look in the mirror man youre describing yourself if you truly believe that about MayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockDont know who you are, but its clear you have 0 credibility and even less boxing sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
I mean to ignore the glaring facts and shift the spot light to... SURPRISE SURPRISE Floyd Mayweather is hilarious.
Mayweather is one of this generations best and a sublime fighter with an outstanding resume, and like a dope your trying to denigrate :vd:
Mayweather was born with amazing natural boxing talents and could indeed have reached the heights you place him at BUT he lacks the heart and cajones of the real fighter. He is a con man nothing more nothing less.
He's only back now because he's running short of $$$$$$$$$. Shoot he says himself " I'm just back to steal some more $$$$$$$". He treats his fans like crap Retires in tears like a weeping prima donna ROFL
Remember this prediction Mayweather will end up in a worse financial & physical shape than Mike Tyson. Once a street punk always a street punk
That is my personal opinion of Fraude Mayweather:lickish:;D
I don't think Mayweather will end up Tyson'esque; he seems more mentally stable than that. And I don't think he is as susceptible to being led around and kept in the dark like Tyson seemingly was.
Perceptions on a fighter are obviously different; and though I think Floyd left without answering some questions; he more than proved how much of a force he is in the lower divisions. I said it before; I think he left from a sense of disdain for the other fighters he "ducked"; and got bored. He beats them all easily, IMO, but still whatever the reasons he needed to fight one of them guys so hopefully it will happen. Are we fighting again?;D
Nah lolQuote:
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Originally Posted by C.J.RockYou post a statement like this and then claim that I have 0 credibility and even less boxing sense??? ROFL Take a look in the mirror man youre describing yourself if you truly believe that about MayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Mayweather was born with amazing natural boxing talents and could indeed have reached the heights you place him at BUT he lacks the heart and cajones of the real fighter. He is a con man nothing more nothing less.
He's only back now because he's running short of $$$$$$$$$. Shoot he says himself " I'm just back to steal some more $$$$$$$". He treats his fans like crap Retires in tears like a weeping prima donna ROFL
Remember this prediction Mayweather will end up in a worse financial & physical shape than Mike Tyson. Once a street punk always a street punk
That is my personal opinion of Fraude Mayweather:lickish:;D
I don't think Mayweather will end up Tyson'esque; he seems more mentally stable than that. And I don't think he is as susceptible to being led around and kept in the dark like Tyson seemingly was.
Perceptions on a fighter are obviously different; and though I think Floyd left without answering some questions; he more than proved how much of a force he is in the lower divisions. I said it before; I think he left from a sense of disdain for the other fighters he "ducked"; and got bored. He beats them all easily, IMO, but still whatever the reasons he needed to fight one of them guys so hopefully it will happen. Are we fighting again?;D
All Mayweather had to do to prove himself to me was accept the $8mil he was offered to fight Tony Margarito not blatently duck him like he did. The list of challengers gets longer Mosely, Williams, Cotto even Clottey but I think you'll see snow in Hades before old Floyd fights either one LOL
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Originally Posted by C.J.RockNah lolQuote:
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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
I don't think Mayweather will end up Tyson'esque; he seems more mentally stable than that. And I don't think he is as susceptible to being led around and kept in the dark like Tyson seemingly was.
Perceptions on a fighter are obviously different; and though I think Floyd left without answering some questions; he more than proved how much of a force he is in the lower divisions. I said it before; I think he left from a sense of disdain for the other fighters he "ducked"; and got bored. He beats them all easily, IMO, but still whatever the reasons he needed to fight one of them guys so hopefully it will happen. Are we fighting again?;D
All Mayweather had to do to prove himself to me was accept the $8mil he was offered to fight Tony Margarito not blatently duck him like he did. The list of challengers gets longer Mosely, Williams, Cotto even Clottey but I think you'll see snow in Hades before old Floyd fights either one LOL
Well my mother told me this weekend I'm going to hell; so I'll let you know what the skiing is like:woot22:
Anyhoo; personally I don't think floyd feared Tony in the least and wasn't really ducking him so much as seeing which way the wind blew the $$$ balloon around. I sure had wished it would have been made{as I'm sure Tony right about now wishes; and Floyd if he really is in dire straits with $$$ issues}.
I thought Williams was the only true threat to him ever if I'm honest; but there was no $$$ there and the ppv's would have been low imo; though I guess no lower than the Baldomir fight and possibly a bigger risk. Williams is avoided like HIV; which is a shame for him and the fans.
Only thing we can do is wait to see what Floyd does now after this JMM fight. I'm sure you'll be watching carefully;D
Where do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.Quote:
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Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.
Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.
It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.
Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion
You believe that shit? Where was Arum going to get 8mil to back an unproven, unheard of fighter at the time named Margarito? Margarito had 0 you understand 0 drawing power.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockNah lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
I don't think Mayweather will end up Tyson'esque; he seems more mentally stable than that. And I don't think he is as susceptible to being led around and kept in the dark like Tyson seemingly was.
Perceptions on a fighter are obviously different; and though I think Floyd left without answering some questions; he more than proved how much of a force he is in the lower divisions. I said it before; I think he left from a sense of disdain for the other fighters he "ducked"; and got bored. He beats them all easily, IMO, but still whatever the reasons he needed to fight one of them guys so hopefully it will happen. Are we fighting again?;D
All Mayweather had to do to prove himself to me was accept the $8mil he was offered to fight Tony Margarito not blatently duck him like he did. The list of challengers gets longer Mosely, Williams, Cotto even Clottey but I think you'll see snow in Hades before old Floyd fights either one LOL
Floyd makes a REAL 8 mil to fight and defeat the Lineal Weterweight champ of the world. So how is that a duck? Tony wasnt the best in his division even before Baldomir won the title. Gimme a break! Spewing 4 year old BS that was unsubstantiated, not to mention being an apologist for a CRIMINAL! a low life douchebag who is a cheater.
Read the lab reports .. all they claim to have found were trace elements of sulpher. If it was calcium & sulpher it would have gone hard when wet It didnt & still hasnt LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingWhere do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion
Not that I'm trying to pick a fight here, but I've read the commissions report, and never have they said that it was just "trace elements" or that it was sulpher only. Every single media outlet reported that it was calcium and sulpher.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockRead the lab reports .. all they claim to have found were trace elements of sulpher. If it was calcium & sulpher it would have gone hard when wet It didnt & still hasnt LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingWhere do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
If you can provide the proof that it was only a trace amount, and sulpher only, I'd like to see it.
Here's their report.
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I believe Diane just owned your a$$
Good Work
The only official wording I read said calcium and sulphur present, nothing about trace elements. Show me a link to a lab report that says trace elements.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockRead the lab reports .. all they claim to have found were trace elements of sulpher. If it was calcium & sulpher it would have gone hard when wet It didnt & still hasnt LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingWhere do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
Well the WBC title would be on the line wouldnt it?? Aswell as Kahns new WBA belt, I dont think Witter is that dangerous really hes world class thats it but Kahn is fighting Kotelnik who gave Witter all he could handle like 4/5 years ago Witter is getting old, Witter is not if any of a step up from Kotelnik imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyIf he gets past Alexander which I think he will. But I doubt Khan would fight anyone as dangerous as Witter unless there was some sort of title on the lineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
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LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
Ah sorry there slim, you still havent given us any Plaster concrete evidence. Why would there be sulpher or traces of it in his glove? Was he hiding matches in there for a post fight cigar:rolleyes:Quote:
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
The report was pretty straight forward dude, there are only 2 people on this forum who believe Tony didnt cheat, 1 is you and the other is a low rent version of Tom Waits ;D
Your still mediocre at best;)
now go back and assume the position Diane put you in :bananasex:
How many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?Quote:
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg
What are you talking about Ice?? Everyone's ears & face look like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBHow many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg
... well, in Lord of the Rings they do ;D
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Originally Posted by ICBHow many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?Quote:
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg
ICB that ear was ready to pop before he ever got in te ring that night; didn't surpise me one bit it blew up like a pimple. Weren't they draining it before the fight started? That was nasty though.:p
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Originally Posted by JazMerkinWhat are you talking about Ice?? Everyone's ears & face look like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBHow many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg
... well, in Lord of the Rings they do ;D
Lol, no doubt. He's got Orc written all over him in that pic.
Hey ICB; I remember seeing Lujan and wondering if he had done BJJ as alot of jujitsu guys have that really bad cauliflower ear.
Anyways this guy James Thompson from UK had maybe even worse then Lujan and his popped open nasty like a squished grape;D That guy is GAME though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=084zB...eature=related
Do you even know how to read? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
Here, I will try to explain it to you in as simple of terms as possible, since you seem to have a problem with reading the document.
- Look at page 3
- Look at point #7
- Point #7 states that one pad was sent for analysis, and the results were that a white flaky substance was found on the pad, and within the interstices of the gauze itself. So you see, since the substance was found throughout the whole pad, it cannot be claimed as being a "trace amount".
- Look at page 3
- Look at point #8
- Hmmm, the hearing takes place. :scratchchin:
You see, the number 8 comes after the number 7, therefore what took place on point #7, came before what happened on point #8.
You got that so far?
- Look at page 4
- Look at point #9
- Point #9 states that during the hearing the 2nd pad was at the lab to be analyzed.
You see, 2 comes after 1, therefore the 2nd pad was sent to the lab during the hearing, after the 1st pad had already been analyzed.
Are you catching on yet?
- Look at page 4
- Look at points #1 and #2 under the "Legal Conclusions" title
- Both points state it was a "plaster like substance". Now if it was sulpher only, they would not use the word plaster, because sulpher alone does not make plaster. If the commision were to use the word plaster, if in fact, it was sulpher only, they would leave themselves open for legal actions by stating the wrong substance. And if it was sulpher only, the report would have stated the word "sulpher" as the substance.
I hope that you were able to understand my explanation, I tried to explain it as simple as possible.
So when are you going to post your proof?
Just read the date on that paper when that hearing was held. The only thing discovered in the wrap was sulpher which is found in plaster but also in hand cremeQuote:
Originally Posted by DianeDo you even know how to read? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ???? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh
Here, I will try to explain it to you in as simple of terms as possible, since you seem to have a problem with reading the document.
- Look at page 3
- Look at point #7
- Point #7 states that one pad was sent for analysis, and the results were that a white flaky substance was found on the pad, and within the interstices of the gauze itself. So you see, since the substance was found throughout the whole pad, it cannot be claimed as being a "trace amount".
- Look at page 3
- Look at point #8
- Hmmm, the hearing takes place. :scratchchin:
You see, the number 8 comes after the number 7, therefore what took place on point #7, came before what happened on point #8.
You got that so far?
- Look at page 4
- Look at point #9
- Point #9 states that during the hearing the 2nd pad was at the lab to be analyzed.
You see, 2 comes after 1, therefore the 2nd pad was sent to the lab during the hearing, after the 1st pad had already been analyzed.
Are you catching on yet?
- Look at page 4
- Look at points #1 and #2 under the "Legal Conclusions" title
- Both points state it was a "plaster like substance". Now if it was sulpher only, they would not use the word plaster, because sulpher alone does not make plaster. If the commision were to use the word plaster, if in fact, it was sulpher only, they would leave themselves open for legal actions by stating the wrong substance. And if it was sulpher only, the report would have stated the word "sulpher" as the substance.
I hope that you were able to understand my explanation, I tried to explain it as simple as possible.
So when are you going to post your proof?
The first pad was "analyzed" in the dressing room day of the
fight by the so called CA commision. Look at the date on that report.
Dont forget the wonderful CA commision's own inspector passed that wrap as OK and signed off on it too. Is that why he was later removed I wonder? lol
Provide proof that Tony Margarito knowingly tried to load his gloves and I'd be one of the first calling for a lifetime ban. Up till now no one has been able to do that
dude you're beating a dead horse, Tony used plaster, it's not even suspicion anymore it's fact, how many times, no one knows but him and his trainer, get over itQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockJust read the date on that paper when that hearing was held. The only thing discovered in the wrap was sulpher which is found in plaster but also in hand cremeQuote:
Originally Posted by DianeDo you even know how to read? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
Here, I will try to explain it to you in as simple of terms as possible, since you seem to have a problem with reading the document.
- Look at page 3
- Look at point #7
- Point #7 states that one pad was sent for analysis, and the results were that a white flaky substance was found on the pad, and within the interstices of the gauze itself. So you see, since the substance was found throughout the whole pad, it cannot be claimed as being a "trace amount".
- Look at page 3
- Look at point #8
- Hmmm, the hearing takes place. :scratchchin:
You see, the number 8 comes after the number 7, therefore what took place on point #7, came before what happened on point #8.
You got that so far?
- Look at page 4
- Look at point #9
- Point #9 states that during the hearing the 2nd pad was at the lab to be analyzed.
You see, 2 comes after 1, therefore the 2nd pad was sent to the lab during the hearing, after the 1st pad had already been analyzed.
Are you catching on yet?
- Look at page 4
- Look at points #1 and #2 under the "Legal Conclusions" title
- Both points state it was a "plaster like substance". Now if it was sulpher only, they would not use the word plaster, because sulpher alone does not make plaster. If the commision were to use the word plaster, if in fact, it was sulpher only, they would leave themselves open for legal actions by stating the wrong substance. And if it was sulpher only, the report would have stated the word "sulpher" as the substance.
I hope that you were able to understand my explanation, I tried to explain it as simple as possible.
So when are you going to post your proof?
The first pad was "analyzed" in the dressing room day of the
fight by the so called CA commision. Look at the date on that report.
Dont forget the wonderful CA commision's own inspector passed that wrap as OK and signed off on it too. Is that why he was later removed I wonder? lol
Provide proof that Tony Margarito knowingly tried to load his gloves and I'd be one of the first calling for a lifetime ban. Up till now no one has been able to do that
If what you say could be proven Mararito would have been banned for life and rightly so. But they cannot find proof only that the pads he had were technically illegal which is why he isnt on a lifetime ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude you're beating a dead horse, Tony used plaster, it's not even suspicion anymore it's fact, how many times, no one knows but him and his trainer, get over itQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockJust read the date on that paper when that hearing was held. The only thing discovered in the wrap was sulpher which is found in plaster but also in hand cremeQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
The first pad was "analyzed" in the dressing room day of the
fight by the so called CA commision. Look at the date on that report.
Dont forget the wonderful CA commision's own inspector passed that wrap as OK and signed off on it too. Is that why he was later removed I wonder? lol
Provide proof that Tony Margarito knowingly tried to load his gloves and I'd be one of the first calling for a lifetime ban. Up till now no one has been able to do that
You guys are so quick to accuse Margarito of cheating but you ignore Moselys previous steroid abuse. Margaritos fans could easliy claim Mosely;s sudden dramatic improvement could be due to him using Hgh why is not detectable by the pee test given to fighters. But they are not haters like some of you are
Pretty sure JT Rock and C.J. Rock are cousins.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude you're beating a dead horse, Tony used plaster, it's not even suspicion anymore it's fact, how many times, no one knows but him and his trainer, get over itQuote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockJust read the date on that paper when that hearing was held. The only thing discovered in the wrap was sulpher which is found in plaster but also in hand cremeQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
The first pad was "analyzed" in the dressing room day of the
fight by the so called CA commision. Look at the date on that report.
Dont forget the wonderful CA commision's own inspector passed that wrap as OK and signed off on it too. Is that why he was later removed I wonder? lol
Provide proof that Tony Margarito knowingly tried to load his gloves and I'd be one of the first calling for a lifetime ban. Up till now no one has been able to do that
Someone call PETA!!!!
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Yeah, what's Roach thinking? give the guy a break. Morales is way over the hill... Why not pit him with a Juan Diaz, that's is sure is a dance...
Anyway, off topic. i think it would be better if Cotto-paquiao could be at a catch weight of 145lbs... that would be the best weight these two fighters can rumble.... 143 is too paquiao sided...
What do you think guys?
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Haven't you read any posts?;D
Welcome to Saddo's by the way.
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"CRIPPLE FIGHT"
He aint no kin of mine LOL I've had this name in various forums & chatrooms since 1992 so I guess you could say he liked my name & copied it LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I do promise to do my best to help him improve his boxing knowledge & teach him some manners to improve his on forum ettiquette though :)
I'm really just having a little fun here BUT knowing Tony Margarito as I do I refuse to accuse the guy of cheating when no one can prove any wrong doing other than a harmless though illegal pad in his wraps. If there are any bad guys here its the Ca commisioners look what a total screw up theyve made.:rolleyes:
This was always going to be a problem with Khan even before we knew he had a piss poor chin.
Because Warren has had him headlining, Khan has been expected to put on a show right from the word go. He's not been able to learn properly because the crowd demand a performance so Khan basically has just gone for it in most fights. He's not really had to do anything different. The only time he has was probably in his most impressive Boxing performance against Garry StClair.
Everytime he's been in trouble, because of the crowd and expectation he's not shown that he can adapt to different scenarios. When Limond almost stopped him Khan got out of jail by practically going for it. It worked but it's not always going to work.
Now he's reached the top level at 140 probably quicker than he expected (if he wins on sat) but the live fighters are all going to be tough tests because they are going to present him with uniquely different challenges and dare i say it, they are going to punch back.
Now i can see Warren's side of protecting his fighter/business but this was always likely to end up in disaster, and unless he can iron out his faults against lesser quality fighters in venues where there isn't expectation, he's going to come unstuck. Probably against a fighter who isn't as talented as he is aswell.
It's an example of being given too much too soon. I'm not saying he hasn't deserved some of it because going to the Olympics and bagging a silver is something special especially at the age of 17. But right from the word go he was thrown into the same sort of limelight that the likes of Froch, Haye and to an extent probably Calzaghe and Hatton enjoy. No fighter can learn and build up a wealth of experience under those circumstances.
I still think Khan is about 5 or 6 fights away from being able to hang at the top. He might beat Kotelnik but to progress further i think he needs to be brought out of the limelight a little but that's never going to happen.
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Originally Posted by C.J.RockHe aint no kin of mine LOL I've had this name in various forums & chatrooms since 1992 so I guess you could say he liked my name & copied it LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I do promise to do my best to help him improve his boxing knowledge & teach him some manners to improve his on forum ettiquette though :)
I'm really just having a little fun here BUT knowing Tony Margarito as I do I refuse to accuse the guy of cheating when no one can prove any wrong doing other than a harmless though illegal pad in his wraps. If there are any bad guys here its the Ca commisioners look what a total screw up theyve made.:rolleyes:
dont worry about it, everyone argues with JT at one point or another.
he knows his boxing but needs to get rid of that chip he has on his shoulder and stop turning decent threads into slanging matches!
Thanks Hatton :) Hey just think if everyone agreed on everything it wouldnt be much fun would it LOLQuote:
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Originally Posted by C.J.RockHe aint no kin of mine LOL I've had this name in various forums & chatrooms since 1992 so I guess you could say he liked my name & copied it LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I do promise to do my best to help him improve his boxing knowledge & teach him some manners to improve his on forum ettiquette though :)
I'm really just having a little fun here BUT knowing Tony Margarito as I do I refuse to accuse the guy of cheating when no one can prove any wrong doing other than a harmless though illegal pad in his wraps. If there are any bad guys here its the Ca commisioners look what a total screw up theyve made.:rolleyes:
dont worry about it, everyone argues with JT at one point or another.
he knows his boxing but needs to get rid of that chip he has on his shoulder and stop turning decent threads into slanging matches!