" David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"

Haye has been talking the big fight for ages now and nothing at all has materialised regarding the Klits. He has fought and edged the weakest of the title holders and then fought a Ruiz who is closer to 40 than 30.

How patient does one need to be with David Haye before he finally steps up to the plate? :confused:

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It means that I get what I asked for, and I get to be entertained by the only meaningful fight at heavyweight. I love arguing with you. You are calling me out, for calling Haye out on his own words.

As long as the Yanks get all wound-up everyone wins :P

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It's 3am where I am. I've been drinking since 3pm yesterday. You guys have been arguing with a guy that doesn't know what he was arguing about.

Hope this helps.

And goodnight.

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And should Haye sign to fight Wlad what will you're bitching mean?

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It means that I get what I asked for, and I get to be entertained by the only meaningful fight at heavyweight. I love arguing with you. You are calling me out, for calling Haye out on his own words.

As long as the Yanks get all wound-up everyone wins :P

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It's 3am where I am. I've been drinking since 3pm yesterday. You guys have been arguing with a guy that doesn't know what he was arguing about.

Hope this helps.

And goodnight.

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FACT

"“The best one for me, in an ideal world, would be either of the Klitschko brothers” - David Haye

"Once I have snatched Valuev's title, I will be happy to battle out heavyweight supremacy with the Klitschkos, but only on equal and fair terms. I only hope the Klitschkos still want to fight me after I have slayed 'The Beast.'" - David Haye

"I'm a boxing fan first and whenever I'm looking for an opponent, I think who can I fight that the fans want me to fight; who would I want me to fight?" - David Haye

YouTube - 2008 Haye and Klitschko head-to-head

YouTube - 2008 Haye calls out Klitschko

YouTube - 2009 Haye calls out Klitschko

YouTube - Haye calls out Klitschko (kind of) 4/15/10

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Some people are reading an awful lot into a few words from some reporter. As far as we know Haye and Junior are currently negotiating a fight. At the outset Team Haye were making sure publicly that they wouldn't accept less than a 50/50 split. It's unlikely that Team Junior will have agreed to this immediately, so seeing as how they're still at the stage of making offers and counteroffers and seeing how Junior is, as Fenster has pointed out, publicly chasing Haye, then Team Haye are just negotiating through the press here. I'm sure if Junior agreed to a 50/50 split tomorrow Haye would decide he's had enough rest thank you and let's get the fight on. It's all about the money, it's not whether one guy is scared of fighting another.

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Completely correct. At least someone is upto date with events.

Negotiations started last Thursday between Booth and the Klitschko camp.

David Haye is on holiday and Booth always handles the negotiations.

I had wondered why we hadn't heard anything yet - maybe the volcanic ash that has stopped anyone flying in Northern Europe until today had something to do with it. (Haye will probably get blamed for the volcano erupting ;D )

As for the original article - looks like its 'sour grapes' by Mr. Davies as Booth didn't give him the exclusive that he was hoping for. Skysports news will be the 1st to know, not some London broadsheet.

Negotiations must be going pretty well as no news after a week.

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Some people are reading an awful lot into a few words from some reporter. As far as we know Haye and Junior are currently negotiating a fight. At the outset Team Haye were making sure publicly that they wouldn't accept less than a 50/50 split. It's unlikely that Team Junior will have agreed to this immediately, so seeing as how they're still at the stage of making offers and counteroffers and seeing how Junior is, as Fenster has pointed out, publicly chasing Haye, then Team Haye are just negotiating through the press here. I'm sure if Junior agreed to a 50/50 split tomorrow Haye would decide he's had enough rest thank you and let's get the fight on. It's all about the money, it's not whether one guy is scared of fighting another.

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Completely correct. At least someone is upto date with events.

Negotiations started last Thursday between Booth and the Klitschko camp.

David Haye is on holiday and Booth always handles the negotiations.

I had wondered why we hadn't heard anything yet - maybe the volcanic ash that has stopped anyone flying in Northern Europe until today had something to do with it. (Haye will probably get blamed for the volcano erupting ;D )

As for the original article - looks like its 'sour grapes' by Mr. Davies as Booth didn't give him the exclusive that he was hoping for. Skysports news will be the 1st to know, not some London broadsheet.

Negotiations must be going pretty well as no news after a week.

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Hahaha, suppose you could put that slant on it. :rolleyes:

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It's 3am where I am. I've been drinking since 3pm yesterday. You guys have been arguing with a guy that doesn't know what he was arguing about.

Hope this helps.

And goodnight.

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hahahaha I like read maybe 4 posts total in this thread. And it's gold like this that keeps me coming back. :)

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Some people are reading an awful lot into a few words from some reporter. As far as we know Haye and Junior are currently negotiating a fight. At the outset Team Haye were making sure publicly that they wouldn't accept less than a 50/50 split. It's unlikely that Team Junior will have agreed to this immediately, so seeing as how they're still at the stage of making offers and counteroffers and seeing how Junior is, as Fenster has pointed out, publicly chasing Haye, then Team Haye are just negotiating through the press here. I'm sure if Junior agreed to a 50/50 split tomorrow Haye would decide he's had enough rest thank you and let's get the fight on. It's all about the money, it's not whether one guy is scared of fighting another.

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Completely correct. At least someone is upto date with events.

Negotiations started last Thursday between Booth and the Klitschko camp.

David Haye is on holiday and Booth always handles the negotiations.

I had wondered why we hadn't heard anything yet - maybe the volcanic ash that has stopped anyone flying in Northern Europe until today had something to do with it. (Haye will probably get blamed for the volcano erupting ;D )

As for the original article - looks like its 'sour grapes' by Mr. Davies as Booth didn't give him the exclusive that he was hoping for. Skysports news will be the 1st to know, not some London broadsheet.

Negotiations must be going pretty well as no news after a week.

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Couldn't have said it any better myself. Negotiations are ongoing. People read way too much into what these so called journalists say.

As for the volcano erupting, it was Hayes fault..... ask Lyle!!

Isnt that what managers always say about their fighters?

That they are getting a rest and etc and boxers say that too.

Usually after a fight they get asked who they want next they usually say "Thats up to my promoters right now im gonna take a rest and relax"

And stuff like that, so it doesnt sound any different to me when a promoter says their fighter is resting before they pick other fighters for them to fight, unless something has changed and they are automatically ready for another fight after a training camp and title defense.

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Haye potentially not wanting to fight Klitchko doesn't make you any less of a douche. Hope that helps clarify things for you :).

I agree that this makes him look really bad though.

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....the actions of the yellow pride of England have made my previous posts fact......FACT

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I think his credibility has been suspect for some time now to be honest. He looked very good against Ruiz and I think he would pose a threat to both Klitscko's (whether or not he would win is another matter), but he seems content to run his mouth, keep his name in the spotlights, and take lesser fights to pad his bank account. Hope that changes soon.

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To be fair, he might aswell milk it. He'll fight the Klits at some point, that i am sure of.

2 fights in a year is unheard of with david haye

expect to not see him back in action until may next year against a newly returned kirk johnson ;D;D;D

U-S-A

That is all. With Klitschko fighting for Ukraine, Russia and Germany all at the same time, he has been very hard to beat. He may not be from all these countries but anytime I talk to someone about boxing it's either the 'German brothers', 'tall Russian guy.'

Now I have made Klitschko an honorary American via Youtube comment, he's now welcome any time.



just try not to take anymore gay pictures please.

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WTF i hope this is some sort of BS masterplan to push the money up in a mayweather kinda way ???

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that's exactly what it is.

Find the whole thing very amusing. Almost amusing as lyle thinking kirk johnson can spice up the heavy weight division! HAHA!

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...I want you people who give me a hard time about all the posts I made calling this dude out to tell me I was wrong to do so. Tell me all the stuff I posted about the Yellow Pride of England was wrong!

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you think kirk johnson is a credible heavyweight force. For that alone I'm not taking anything you say about heavyweights seriously.

Never once did I say Kirk Johnson was a credible heavyweight force! I merely commented on his return to boxing and given the lack of depth and consistency of the heavyweight division (outside of The Klitschkos) I merely stated that an in shape Kirk Johnson would prove to be an interesting matchup for some contenders and journeymen, I never even said Johnson would win. So Hornfinger just give it a rest

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Never once did I say Kirk Johnson was a credible heavyweight force! I merely commented on his return to boxing and given the lack of depth and consistency of the heavyweight division (outside of The Klitschkos) I merely stated that an in shape Kirk Johnson would prove to be an interesting matchup for some contenders and journeymen, I never even said Johnson would win. So Hornfinger just give it a rest

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Go and kiss a klitscho ring piece you joke.

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Isn't that just in short...

I need to avoid the klitschkos a bit more...;With any hope Vitaly retires and Wlad has a full card when i return....

Fucking Haye is a tool

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What one?...The fact Haye is a tool? Easy....

Since before the Thompson fight Haye has been a shit talking idiot...If you ever had MySpace and seen him on there and read the shit he would post the conclusion is easy...Haye does not trash talk he is out right belligerent....He would say shit like..."I am going to kick this Mother F***** ass he is a bitch etc...

He does these stupid ass burst in on the Klitschkos and make comments so stupid it makes Mayweathers look smart...

Just annoying and not the way for a World Champion (Even if it is the WBA) to act in public this is a sport not the back of a bar room...

The hoping Vitaly retires and Wlad has a full card comment....

Haye has been talking talking talking non stop about the Klitschkos but has yet to step up....Pulled out of a fight with one brother and found a way not to even get close to fighting the other.....

Vitali is 37? 38? He wants to retire soon....He can care less about haye and if Haye won't fight he will go about his business he is not waiting around for Haye to bitch out again...

Wlad has even called him out and Now Haye needs time off?

Yet just like the back that healed when the ink dried on the contract for Wlads next opp after Haye "Hurt his Back" David found a miracle cure for back pain...

If Vitaly retired tomorrow and Wlad signed his next 2 bouts.... Haye sure as shit stinks would have the taking the year off statement retracted and Haye would be issuing comments about Wlad ducking him and him coming ion to "CLEAN"...Up HW division and take charge while taunting Wlad and claiming Vitali retired to avoid him....

Personally I think Haye thought it was a good idea at first to taunt the brothers and fight them both...I think he did some research and looked how easy they dispose of their opp regardless of who....I think he sees Wlad beating men 6'5" with his jab and said "Shit man this is not the fight for me but I can't just say I don't want to fight them" so he plays little games...The shit he pulls is what guys pull if a champion is ducking them...Haye is not being ducked but pursued....

His act is OLD it is the SAME nonsense each time....Since 2007 his best opp is Valuev?....Shit the CW division had Cunningham, Adamek and a few more guys who would have tested him to his limit and IMO Cunningham or Adamek beats him....At HW he has managed to fight Barrett, Valuev and Ruiz.....He is his own joke....

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So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

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You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

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Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

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Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

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You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

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Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

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Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

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Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.

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Go and kiss a klitscho ring piece you joke.

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Don't get personal....you got the wrong idea of my post and I just corrected you on it is all, no reason to get pissy about it

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Go and kiss a klitscho ring piece you joke.

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Don't get personal....you got the wrong idea of my post and I just corrected you on it is all, no reason to get pissy about it

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pucker up buttercup. ;D:cool:

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pucker up buttercup. ;D:cool:

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Have your laughs now....I'll be patient and wait for the right time to have mine.

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Never once did I say Kirk Johnson was a credible heavyweight force! I merely commented on his return to boxing and given the lack of depth and consistency of the heavyweight division (outside of The Klitschkos) I merely stated that an in shape Kirk Johnson would prove to be an interesting matchup for some contenders and journeymen, I never even said Johnson would win. So Hornfinger just give it a rest

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You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British! lol

Wasnt that the response he was giving people that criticize Haye?:vd:
;D

I only saw this man fight twice and the times I saw him fight, I wasn't impressed. He reminded me of Floyd Mayweather without the talent. The heavyweight division is not in great shape but this fighter should be active because the other champions are not chumps like the guy he dethroned reminded me of Primo Carnera without the glass chin and of course heavier. Haye had better remember one thing, he has not arrived and Klitsko is the champ and he is dead weight until he acts like a champion instead of a glorified negotiator. You remember us David, the fans that pay for te pleasure of watching a good fight?

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Never once did I say Kirk Johnson was a credible heavyweight force! I merely commented on his return to boxing and given the lack of depth and consistency of the heavyweight division (outside of The Klitschkos) I merely stated that an in shape Kirk Johnson would prove to be an interesting matchup for some contenders and journeymen, I never even said Johnson would win. So Hornfinger just give it a rest

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You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British! lol

Wasnt that the response he was giving people that criticize Haye?:vd:
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Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.

What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?

Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.

The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.

I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.

Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.

Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.

I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.

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Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.

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He talks endless shit, was given MULTIPLE opportunities to back it up and failed to do so. He has now been called out by THE Heavyweight Champion of the World Wladimir Klitschko and this flimsy response from his trainer/manager is all we get.....well that and his trainer saying that "We're (trainer and his charge) not sure who the real champion is and maybe we need to find that out before we fight Wlad or Vitali"

This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.

As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.

On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...

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No Fenster the people complaining about Wlad are the ones "complaining about a fighter not entertaining you"

Wlad will fight by the end of this summer probably vs Povetkin although Sam Peter has an outside shot. The yellow pride of England will probably fight the winner of Chagaev-Meehan a fight he'll probably lose.

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At least it will make you happy Lyle.

Imagine the horror you would suffer if Haye landed that right hand on Wlad's china chin.

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Trust me, it will happen soon enough.

Let him bask in his title a little bit, before he gets his face broken by one of the Klitschko bros.;D

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Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

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Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

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Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.

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HBO were paying the promotion a license feee, they weren't paying the boxers individually. And the way the fight contract worked was that Junior got almost everything other than the Setanta money for the fight and then about 10 000 options on Haye afterwards. Haye probably would have made enough from the non-Setanta revenue streams to cover his expenses but would have been basically fighting for free.

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This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.

As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.

On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...

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It'll happen. Junior will eventually agree to 50/50 because he's desperate to get his sewn-on hands on the Sky PPV loot. Haye will be his biggest payday.

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This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.

As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.

On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...

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I heard something about Roach sniffing round him last year as it goes... ;)

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Never once did I say Kirk Johnson was a credible heavyweight force! I merely commented on his return to boxing and given the lack of depth and consistency of the heavyweight division (outside of The Klitschkos) I merely stated that an in shape Kirk Johnson would prove to be an interesting matchup for some contenders and journeymen, I never even said Johnson would win. So Hornfinger just give it a rest

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You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British! lol

Wasnt that the response he was giving people that criticize Haye?:vd:
;D

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Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.

What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?

Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.

The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.

I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.

Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.

Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.

I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.

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The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:

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You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British! lol

Wasnt that the response he was giving people that criticize Haye?:vd:
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Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.

What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?

Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.

The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.

I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.

Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.

Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.

I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.

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The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:

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I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight

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This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.

As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.

On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...

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I heard something about Roach sniffing round him last year as it goes... ;)

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I read on this forum sometime after the Valuev fight that Booth/ Haye wanted Roach to get involved ???

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Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.

What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?

Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.

The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.

I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.

Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.

Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.

I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.

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The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:

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I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight

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I don't understand why the HAYTERS find this so hard to understand. It won't happen this time around with the backing of SKY anyway.

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This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.

As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.

On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...

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I heard something about Roach sniffing round him last year as it goes... ;)

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I read on this forum sometime after the Valuev fight that Booth/ Haye wanted Roach to get involved ???

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Well before Khans last fight Roach, Haye and Khan were all having a nice chat and then Roach realised the cameras were on them and and ended the coversation quickly. Haye was showing them his broken hand when Roach realised the cameras were on.

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Booth: “We are not considering anything or any opponents at the moment. None whatsoever. We want to let everything settle, the last year was quite busy with negotiations for four world title fights, two of which have taken place, and David is now going to take a well-earned rest.

Jesus christ, the guy has fought 4 fights in two and half years but he needs rest?? I thought he wants out by the time he is 31?

Getting very boring this, needs to sort out a fight with the Klits no doubt they are waiting for them both to be tied up then they will come out with the Klits didn't want any of David Haye, fuck your rest sort the fight out for late summer/Autumn then have your fucking rest!!!!

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I think where in the age of modern boxers, where they think they have fought a lot if they fight more than twice a year. In the old days Sugar Ray Robinson fought 19 times in one year in 1950...19 times in one year !!!!

Sugar Ray Robinson - Boxer

And the fights were a lot harder in them days than they are now.

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Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.

What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?

Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.

The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.

I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.

Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.

Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.

I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.

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The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:

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I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight

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No one is ducking anyone. Wlad wants haye haye wants wlad. simple.

You can't say that an injury means that a fighter is ducking someone. I wouldn't go into any kind of pro contest with an injury. George Foreman sustained a cut before the rumble in the jungle and the fight was postponed. That was a genuine injury. George wasn't going to fight injured and he was the vast favourite to win. Was there an outcry that he was trying to duck ali?

It's all down to negotiation, spin, media/fan manipulation and mind games now. The fight will happen, it's about building anticipation. The whole 'will they, won't they?' thing is a big part of that.

Make the fans desperate to see the fight and then they're happier to part with their money and it will also attract bigger numbers.

It happens in all big fights.

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The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:

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I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight

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I don't understand why the HAYTERS find this so hard to understand. It won't happen this time around with the backing of SKY anyway.

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The Vitali fight was backed by SKY.