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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
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People need to learn how to read between the lines. Mayweather wanting Alvarez to come down to 147 is code word for I don't wanna fight this kid. It's that simple. Alvarez hasn't fought at welterweight in over 3 years. He tried to make 147 for the Jose Cotto fight and failed. It's impossible for him to make 147 any more. His body won't let him. That's like asking Mayweather to make 140. It's not possible. Mayweather knows all this. Him asking for Alvarez to meet him at 147 is his way out of the fight. The only reason a fighter makes a demand that he already knows is impossible to ever be met is cuz he doesn't want the fight. Mayweather can spit all the nonsense he wants about he's number 1 and Alvarez needs to do this and needs to do that. That's fine. But bottom line is he's making a demand that not only does he already know is never gonna be accepted but is impossible to even be accepted.
Floyd doesn't need to fight Canelo because he signed a contract with Showtime and he isn't required to fight at junior middleweight to make good on the contract. While the welterweight division is in a weak point in its history, that isn't Floyd's problem. He has a contract that gives him a number of fights at welterweight and there are numerous fighters from in and around that weight class that will never be able to build a Canelo-type fan base. To those fighters, a fight with Floyd is life-changing. Floyd can turn down the Canelo fight and still have a long list of welterweights to choose from. Floyd is about green; hence, the moniker "money." We can't forget that.
Of course, Floyd has fought at 154 twice and was successful both times. There is no doubt he can be successful at 154. But, if you were in
his shoes, why would you? Less risk, and he can still make good money fighting the likes of Amir Khan.
In addition, there is no reason to criticize a boxer for moving up in weight if he can successfully make the weight class he is fighting in.
Floyd shouldn't be criticized for not moving up in weight.
Canelo shouldn't be criticized for not moving down in weight either. If Mayweather doesn't want to move in weight to face Canelo because he can make 147 easily, and if Canelo can't make 147, then so be it. Canelo seems comfortable at 154. He should clean out the division and build his own legacy there. There are plenty of credible fights at 154 for Canelo. He can have a money-making fight beating up Cotto. He can face the Angulo-Lara winner. There is Andrade on the way up. Kirkland.
What the hell are you talking about? Mayweather's contract does not limit him to only the welterweight division. His contract has nothing to do with him fighting Alvarez or not.
Mayweather not going to 154 to fight Alvarez makes him look like a pussy. He's pretty much letting everybody know he'll go to 154 to fight what's left of Miguel Cotto. But not Alvarez
Theres a difference fighting Cotto and Alvarez at 154. About a 20 pound difference
Bullshit. Both fighters will have to weight in at 154. It'll be 10 pounds at the most
Floyd will be 155ish in the ring. Alvarez will be over 170
Mayweather will not just put on 1 pound overnight. Either way Ortiz was 164 on fight night. And Cotto looked like he was close to 170. Nothing he ain't done before. Not only that but extra weight is not exactly an advantage for his opponent
Cotto was at 165, which is too much for his frame. He still managed to look good against Floyd, though. Canelo is younger and has a bigger frame. He can bulk up into the mid-170's no problem. Floyd does not look good at anything over 150.
The 20-pound difference estimate is more accurate than the 10-pound one.
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
So why the hell does Floyd make this demand about weight? I would think that Floyd wants Alvarez sooner rather than later, in other words now instead of two years from now. Floyd is not getting younger and Canelo is getting stronger and faster.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
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People need to learn how to read between the lines. Mayweather wanting Alvarez to come down to 147 is code word for I don't wanna fight this kid. It's that simple. Alvarez hasn't fought at welterweight in over 3 years. He tried to make 147 for the Jose Cotto fight and failed. It's impossible for him to make 147 any more. His body won't let him. That's like asking Mayweather to make 140. It's not possible. Mayweather knows all this. Him asking for Alvarez to meet him at 147 is his way out of the fight. The only reason a fighter makes a demand that he already knows is impossible to ever be met is cuz he doesn't want the fight. Mayweather can spit all the nonsense he wants about he's number 1 and Alvarez needs to do this and needs to do that. That's fine. But bottom line is he's making a demand that not only does he already know is never gonna be accepted but is impossible to even be accepted.
Floyd doesn't need to fight Canelo because he signed a contract with Showtime and he isn't required to fight at junior middleweight to make good on the contract. While the welterweight division is in a weak point in its history, that isn't Floyd's problem. He has a contract that gives him a number of fights at welterweight and there are numerous fighters from in and around that weight class that will never be able to build a Canelo-type fan base. To those fighters, a fight with Floyd is life-changing. Floyd can turn down the Canelo fight and still have a long list of welterweights to choose from. Floyd is about green; hence, the moniker "money." We can't forget that.
Of course, Floyd has fought at 154 twice and was successful both times. There is no doubt he can be successful at 154. But, if you were in
his shoes, why would you? Less risk, and he can still make good money fighting the likes of Amir Khan.
In addition, there is no reason to criticize a boxer for moving up in weight if he can successfully make the weight class he is fighting in.
Floyd shouldn't be criticized for not moving up in weight.
Canelo shouldn't be criticized for not moving down in weight either. If Mayweather doesn't want to move in weight to face Canelo because he can make 147 easily, and if Canelo can't make 147, then so be it. Canelo seems comfortable at 154. He should clean out the division and build his own legacy there. There are plenty of credible fights at 154 for Canelo. He can have a money-making fight beating up Cotto. He can face the Angulo-Lara winner. There is Andrade on the way up. Kirkland.
What the hell are you talking about? Mayweather's contract does not limit him to only the welterweight division. His contract has nothing to do with him fighting Alvarez or not.
Mayweather not going to 154 to fight Alvarez makes him look like a pussy. He's pretty much letting everybody know he'll go to 154 to fight what's left of Miguel Cotto. But not Alvarez
Theres a difference fighting Cotto and Alvarez at 154. About a 20 pound difference
Bullshit. Both fighters will have to weight in at 154. It'll be 10 pounds at the most
Floyd will be 155ish in the ring. Alvarez will be over 170
Mayweather will not just put on 1 pound overnight. Either way Ortiz was 164 on fight night. And Cotto looked like he was close to 170. Nothing he ain't done before. Not only that but extra weight is not exactly an advantage for his opponent
Cotto was at 165, which is too much for his frame. He still managed to look good against Floyd, though. Canelo is younger
and has a bigger frame. He can bulk up into the mid-170's no problem. Floyd does not look good at anything over 150.
The 20-pound difference estimate is more accurate than the 10-pound one.
He does have a bigger frame. Which is why expecting him to make 147 is fucking moronic.
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Reading all this was a ball ache
The fight will never happen. Canelo is of another era then Floyed..Lets be realistic
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
Floyd should just fine Canelo 100k for every pound over 154 lbs unofficial or official and really see if can make the weight then. Money motivates.
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Floyd should just fine Canelo 100k for every pound over 154 lbs unofficial or official and really see if can make the weight then. Money motivates.
Its got to be a million for every pound to make it worthwhile for the money man.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
Saul can sell PPV he does not need Floyd. Forget him.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
Saul is creating his own legacy, everyone knows the only real challenge for Floyd is Canelo, Floyd beats everyone else and no one is interested in these other fights.
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
Sure did spend a lot of years cherry picking and creating that legacy such as avoiding Kostya and then Pacquiao (altough I think PAC and MAY both avoided each other). Did not fight Mosley till he was over the hill. Same applies to Cotto. Picked on smaller guys like Hatton and Marquez. But everyone get's all butthurt when he's not the one bullying and has to fight a bigger fighter at 154.
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
Sure did spend a lot of years cherry picking and creating that legacy such as avoiding Kostya and then Pacquiao (altough I think PAC and MAY both avoided each other). Did not fight Mosley till he was over the hill. Same applies to Cotto. Picked on smaller guys like Hatton and Marquez. But everyone get's all butthurt when he's not the one bullying and has to fight a bigger fighter at 154.
Strange that.
The majority of floyds fights floyd has always been the smaller man in the ring against his opponents.
He is a welterweight no more no less.
Canelo is headed for a huge fall and trout was just the start.
Bottom line is guys, canelo has to accept whatever floyd wants or he could just have another rematch with a ryan rhodes type fighter to keep that massive padded undefeated record.
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
Sure did spend a lot of years cherry picking and creating that legacy such as avoiding Kostya and then Pacquiao (altough I think PAC and MAY both avoided each other). Did not fight Mosley till he was over the hill. Same applies to Cotto. Picked on smaller guys like Hatton and Marquez. But everyone get's all butthurt when he's not the one bullying and has to fight a bigger fighter at 154.
Thats right.
Floyd just kept ducking a quitter in Kostya Tszyu
And as for manny, we all know what happened with this guy.
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
What the fuck you think he's trying to do? You start a legacy by going after the best. Which is exactly what Alvarez is trying to do.
Mayweather himself said he wanted to defend his WBA Junior Middleweight title after fighting Guerrero. In order to do that he needs to fight at 154. The WBA has already stated he was never stripped of the title and he's still there Super Champion.
Seems like he's willing to fight at 154 as long as he's not fighting Alvarez.
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let Floyd fight Alexander and Canelo take on Lara, cause it's another May/Pac meaning it's not gonna happen
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let Floyd fight Alexander and Canelo take on Lara, cause it's another May/Pac meaning it's not gonna happen
Floyd vs Alexander :p
Talk about a snooze fest. :cwm33:
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
What the fuck you think he's trying to do? You start a legacy by going after the best. Which is exactly what Alvarez is trying to do.
Mayweather himself said he wanted to defend his WBA Junior Middleweight title after fighting Guerrero. In order to do that he needs to fight at 154. The WBA has already stated he was never stripped of the title and he's still there Super Champion.
Seems like he's willing to fight at 154 as long as he's not fighting Alvarez.
Meh....... Canelo's loss I guess.
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let Floyd fight Alexander and Canelo take on Lara, cause it's another May/Pac meaning it's not gonna happen
Floyd vs Alexander :p
Talk about a snooze fest. :cwm33:
90% chance it will be one but he's the only top guy available for that time, seeing how Bradley faces Marquez in September, Pacquiao faces Rios in November, and Malignaggi is about to face Broner
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let Floyd fight Alexander and Canelo take on Lara, cause it's another May/Pac meaning it's not gonna happen
Floyd vs Alexander :p
Talk about a snooze fest. :cwm33:
90% chance it will be one but he's the only top guy available for that time, seeing how Bradley faces Marquez in September, Pacquiao faces Rios in November, and Malignaggi is about to face Broner
Even more reason to face Alvarez
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let Floyd fight Alexander and Canelo take on Lara, cause it's another May/Pac meaning it's not gonna happen
Floyd vs Alexander :p
Talk about a snooze fest. :cwm33:
90% chance it will be one but he's the only top guy available for that time, seeing how Bradley faces Marquez in September, Pacquiao faces Rios in November, and Malignaggi is about to face Broner
Even more reason to face Alvarez
I'm not saying he shouldn't but if he's refusing to fight him at 154 and Canelo is refusing to come down, then I have no interest in a fight that wont happen, just like May/Pac, so both should just go on to the best available in their weight division without the drama
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Excuse the bad lanuage but thats Complete bollocks.
Yes, why doesnt the best, highest paid athlete on earth disadvantage himself against an overrated light heavyweight come fightime!
Canelo will weigh TWO stone (25-30lbs) more than floyd come fight time!
If coming down in weight is so bad why doesnt canelo go up in weight and fight andre ward which would be another mega showdown.
Floyd ducks no one and since he destroyed guerrero after a year off and a stint in prison the hate seems to have intensified against him.
Maybe cuz Andre Ward hasn't been cleared by doctors to even train let alone fight. And only a fool would think Alvarez-Ward would make as much as Alvarez-Mayweather
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Excuse the bad lanuage but thats Complete bollocks.
Yes, why doesnt the best, highest paid athlete on earth disadvantage himself against an overrated light heavyweight come fightime!
Canelo will weigh TWO stone (25-30lbs) more than floyd come fight time!
If coming down in weight is so bad why doesnt canelo go up in weight and fight andre ward which would be another mega showdown.
Floyd ducks no one and since he destroyed guerrero after a year off and a stint in prison the hate seems to have intensified against him.
Some people hate Floyd so much and want him to lose so bad that almost anything is viewed as fair play.
You seriously think Alvarez should come down to 147? A weight he hasn't fought in, in over 3 years and a weight his body won't even let him make?
Of course floyd/canelo makes the most money but there are other options for him if he cant make the weight.
Take your pick and fight someone you probably dont outweigh.
Golovkin
Martinez
Geale
Quillin
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
Pirog Soliman Sturm Macklin, and Murray
VD, you expect any boxer to fight someone at a 30lbs disadvantage?
Come on.
None of them make the money a Mayweather fight would make. Are you seriously trying to tell me Alvarez should try and make 147 when he hasn't done it in over 3 years and last time he tried he missed by 4 pounds?
It was ok for PBF to come in @ 160 vs JMM .... what a joke
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Nor does Floyd need him. Why risk what he hasn't risked so far at a weight where he'll be at a distinct disadvantage, especially given the fact that Canelo will step into the ring in the mid 170's? That he (Floyd) fought Cotto at 154? So what? 154 was never Miguel's best weight and even so Miguel managed to give Floyd a better fight than maybe Floyd himself was expecting.
I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but fair is fair. He's spent years creating his legacy.
Let Canelo start his own.
Sure did spend a lot of years cherry picking and creating that legacy such as avoiding Kostya and then Pacquiao (altough I think PAC and MAY both avoided each other). Did not fight Mosley till he was over the hill. Same applies to Cotto. Picked on smaller guys like Hatton and Marquez. But everyone get's all butthurt when he's not the one bullying and has to fight a bigger fighter at 154.
Strange that.
The majority of floyds fights floyd has always been the smaller man in the ring against his opponents.
He is a welterweight no more no less.
Canelo is headed for a huge fall and trout was just the start.
Bottom line is guys, canelo has to accept whatever floyd wants or he could just have another rematch with a ryan rhodes type fighter to keep that massive padded undefeated record.
PBF is just about out of tin cans to fight.
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Are you kidding me?? Whatever next? The Welterweight champion wants to fight in his own division against a man that has just publicly called him out. How dare you Floyd?
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Excuse the bad lanuage but thats Complete bollocks.
Yes, why doesnt the best, highest paid athlete on earth disadvantage himself against an overrated light heavyweight come fightime!
Canelo will weigh TWO stone (25-30lbs) more than floyd come fight time!
If coming down in weight is so bad why doesnt canelo go up in weight and fight andre ward which would be another mega showdown.
Floyd ducks no one and since he destroyed guerrero after a year off and a stint in prison the hate seems to have intensified against him.
Maybe cuz Andre Ward hasn't been cleared by doctors to even train let alone fight. And only a fool would think Alvarez-Ward would make as much as Alvarez-Mayweather
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Excuse the bad lanuage but thats Complete bollocks.
Yes, why doesnt the best, highest paid athlete on earth disadvantage himself against an overrated light heavyweight come fightime!
Canelo will weigh TWO stone (25-30lbs) more than floyd come fight time!
If coming down in weight is so bad why doesnt canelo go up in weight and fight andre ward which would be another mega showdown.
Floyd ducks no one and since he destroyed guerrero after a year off and a stint in prison the hate seems to have intensified against him.
Some people hate Floyd so much and want him to lose so bad that almost anything is viewed as fair play.
You seriously think Alvarez should come down to 147? A weight he hasn't fought in, in over 3 years and a weight his body won't even let him make?
Of course floyd/canelo makes the most money but there are other options for him if he cant make the weight.
Take your pick and fight someone you probably dont outweigh.
Golovkin
Martinez
Geale
Quillin
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
Pirog Soliman Sturm Macklin, and Murray
VD, you expect any boxer to fight someone at a 30lbs disadvantage?
Come on.
None of them make the money a Mayweather fight would make. Are you seriously trying to tell me Alvarez should try and make 147 when he hasn't done it in over 3 years and last time he tried he missed by 4 pounds?
It was ok for PBF to come in @ 160 vs JMM .... what a joke
Take a pill. Do you follow the sport? Marquez and Floyd had a contracted weight of 144 and another contract that would give Marquez 300 grand per pound over. Floyd weighed 146 and paid his 600 k and probably weighed the same the night of the fight. He was 2 pounds heavier then Marquez.
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This is a case of what goes around comes around, Manny has abused weights since Oscar, and the internet and casual fans gave him a pass. I think this fight is garbage but I don't want to hear crying now that Floyd's doing it.
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This is a case of what goes around comes around, Manny has abused weights since Oscar, and the internet and casual fans gave him a pass. I think this fight is garbage but I don't want to hear crying now that Floyd's doing it.
Wonder if canelo will expect manny to fight him at 154 or perhaps a catchweight? (But then mannys too small now isnt he..lol)
If it happened it would be the fight of the year with plenty of knockdowns, cuts and bruises...but when floyd beats both of them in a complete one sided style by outboxing its called boring and a snoozefest
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This is a case of what goes around comes around, Manny has abused weights since Oscar, and the internet and casual fans gave him a pass. I think this fight is garbage but I don't want to hear crying now that Floyd's doing it.
Wonder if canelo will expect manny to fight him at 154 or perhaps a catchweight? (But then mannys too small now isnt he..lol)
If it happened it would be the fight of the year with plenty of knockdowns, cuts and bruises...but when floyd beats both of them in a complete one sided style by outboxing its called boring and a snoozefest
Maybe Floyd should stand there and let himself get knocked out, that's what most haters really want.
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What doesn't make sense is how he always wanted Cotto to feel comfortable.
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This is a case of what goes around comes around, Manny has abused weights since Oscar, and the internet and casual fans gave him a pass. I think this fight is garbage but I don't want to hear crying now that Floyd's doing it.
Wonder if canelo will expect manny to fight him at 154 or perhaps a catchweight? (But then mannys too small now isnt he..lol)
If it happened it would be the fight of the year with plenty of knockdowns, cuts and bruises...but when floyd beats both of them in a complete one sided style by outboxing its called boring and a snoozefest
I find Mayweather one of the best boxers in the world to watch. If you could buy a boxing textbook in defensive masterclass then Mayweather would be on the cover. No he doesn't get into brawls every fight like Arturo Gatti but for me part of what makes boxing great is seeing great punches landed and some of Mayweathers counterpunching is nothing short of phenomenal. Some of the straight right hands he was landing last week against guerrero were absolutely beautiful.
We all love a good tear up but what makes this sport so great is the amount of skill and class that it takes to reach the very top and whatever you think of him as a man, as a boxer I don't think anyone can deny Mayweather is incredibly skillful and is a classy boxer. These kinds of skills don't come along every day, so we should enjoy Mayweather while he's here because he WILL be one those guys that comes up in future generations conversations about would the Welterweight champion of say 2029 have a chance of beating the greats such as Mayweather, Leonard, Hearns and amongst others Pacquiao?
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Floyd might eventually lose before hanging them up for good. But it won't be against Canelo at 154, trying to call the shots, and coming into the ring at 175 pounds. When Canelo reaches the status that Floyd, Cotto, or any of these other veteran, future HOF'ers have.... he can dictate terms.
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What doesn't make sense is how he always wanted Cotto to feel comfortable.
I think that was a little dig to pacman to say he doesnt do catchweights.
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What doesn't make sense is how he always wanted Cotto to feel comfortable.
I think that was a little dig to pacman to say he doesnt do catchweights.
He knew Cotto was a blown up light middle, was not the same dangerous fighter he was at light welter and welterweight and he wanted to show that he did not do catch weights in his favour like Manny did.
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Cotto can get a lovely pay day with canelo but that boy sure does mark up easily.
Cotto is stuck at 154 now..what happens if cotto beats canelo?!
Anyone for mayweather vs cotto 2.?
Then the weight debate would really kick off.
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Cotto can get a lovely pay day with canelo but that boy sure does mark up easily.
Cotto is stuck at 154 now..what happens if cotto beats canelo?!
Anyone for mayweather vs cotto 2.?
Then the weight debate would really kick off.
And why Floyd has avoided another fighter.
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The highest paid athlete in history.
I think he has the right to dictate the weight.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
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Originally Posted by
imp
The highest paid athlete in history.
I think he has the right to dictate the weight.
Saul could take over and he has the right to tell Floyd to go forth and multiply
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
After the fog of war clears and the argument for argument sake takes a back seat to reality ahd physical fact it still comes down to a question asked to each fighter.
To Alvarez: Would you like a crack at the best fighter in the world and the biggest payday you will ever have by dropping down to welter?
Answer: No.
To Mayweather: Would you like to fight the 154 champion who will most likely be a light heavyweight the night of the fight in a division you would have no interest in staying in?
Answer: Huuuuuuuuh?
Questioner: Right then, thanks for the time.
The end.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
Id say Canelo v Martinez is a more realistic prospect.
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
After the fog of war clears and the argument for argument sake takes a back seat to reality ahd physical fact it still comes down to a question asked to each fighter.
To Alvarez: Would you like a crack at the best fighter in the world and the biggest payday you will ever have by dropping down to welter?
Answer: No.
To Mayweather: Would you like to fight the 154 champion who will most likely be a light heavyweight the night of the fight in a division you would have no interest in staying in?
Answer: Huuuuuuuuh?
Questioner: Right then, thanks for the time.
The end.
This pretty much sums everything up^^.
Theres no counter to this.
It is what it is. Take it or leave it
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
I think Alvarez will lose the weight and fight him. Or maybe they fight at 148 for the 154 belt. It's the perfect excuse for Alvarez if/when he loses. He can go back to 154 and continue his career.
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
I think Alvarez will lose the weight and fight him. Or maybe they fight at 148 for the 154 belt. It's the perfect excuse for Alvarez if/when he loses. He can go back to 154 and continue his career.
This would make sense for canelo but i still see it being 147.
Floyd sr has already confirmed that it would only be at welterweight and also mentioned floyd jr is natural light welter.
