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It's pretty clear the majority of us regard Brook as no.1
Hardly surprising considering he doesn't just pass the skill/talent test he is also one of the major players in the deepest division in world boxing.
Yes I really hope Brook gets some good fights this year.
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Fenster
It's pretty clear the majority of us regard Brook as no.1
Hardly surprising considering he doesn't just pass the skill/talent test he is also one of the major players in the deepest division in world boxing.
Same with Fury and not just a bit part player, hes the fuckng boss!;D
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The heavyweight division is utter shit compared with the welterweight one. You wont find a single heavyweight in the world close to any reputable boxing publications P4P list.
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Haskins-I think he's a top 3 to 5 guy and already beat McDonnell once but what he has against him is age. 32 isn't old these days given the activity levels but its a candle burning at both ends weight class. Maybe he's got Jamies number over 12 rounds. Their previous fight was pretty close.
I saw that fight, it was just an eight rounder. McDonnell was finishing much stronger (many thought McDonnell won). If you said then that both of them would go on to be "world" champions, with McDonnell being a genuine top 3 in the world, you'd have been mad.
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Fenster
The heavyweight division is utter shit compared with the welterweight one. You wont find a single heavyweight in the world close to any reputable boxing publications P4P list.
You mean like the Ring who has a financial interest?;D Publications and the media are mostly made up of no nothings like this forum who are just expressing an opinion which is generally biased. How can people not have Tyson top over the rest of the mediocre champions when he is clearly the best in his division and beat an all time great to do it!
Check the boxrec pound for pound;D This is based on fact and a points system, not biased opinion.
Oh and Tyson did deserve the fight more than Haye as he fought in 3 eliminators and was mandatory for 2 of the belts! The only reason he didnt have a belt already is because Wlad didnt defend against him sooner! The only reason Tyson didnt have a win over a big name before his totle shot os because Haye pretended to retire rather than lose to Tyson.
The division may not be great but you still have to be very good to not get beaten for so long and he fought more regularly than most of the champs in the lower weights as well.
Compare Wlads schedule to Wards, Mayweathers and Pacquiaos;D Even Brook himself;D
Tyson was not only the only man to do it he did it easy;D
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Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."
However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks. ;)
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Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."
However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks. ;)
And all below Fury!!!
:lolhaha:
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Boxrec have the worst points system in the world for ranking fighters too. Absolutely cluesless, its just based on the opinions of the editors.
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Boxrec have the worst points system in the world for ranking fighters too. Absolutely cluesless, its just based on the opinions of the editors.
Oh really?
"These ratings are not influenced by subjective views or opinions but are wholly dependent upon the bouts contained in the BoxRec database."
BoxRec Ratings Description - BoxRec
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Silkeyjoe
Boxrec have the worst points system in the world for ranking fighters too. Absolutely cluesless, its just based on the opinions of the editors.
Oh really?
"These ratings are not influenced by subjective views or opinions but are wholly dependent upon the bouts contained in the BoxRec database."
BoxRec Ratings Description - BoxRec
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Use there system to work out fighters ratings. They dont add up most of the time.
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Silkeyjoe
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ross
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Silkeyjoe
Boxrec have the worst points system in the world for ranking fighters too. Absolutely cluesless, its just based on the opinions of the editors.
Oh really?
"These ratings are not influenced by subjective views or opinions but are wholly dependent upon the bouts contained in the BoxRec database."
BoxRec Ratings Description - BoxRec
:scratchchin::vd:
Use there system to work out fighters ratings. They dont add up most of the time.
So you think there is a secret agenda among the boxrec editors to make Fury a top P4P fighter and better than all the welter weights?
Or could it be that he had a very good win over a very good fighter?
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No Im just saying there point system is flawed and in some cases just plain wrong.
I personally wouldnt have him top 10 P4P as I dont think hes the best heavyweight which is a poor division but have no problem if people have him in there as he just beat Wlad. I also wouldnt have Canelo as number 1. How have they got Garcia behind Khan considering he has fought more, and against better opposition since beating Khan
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No Im just saying there point system is flawed and in some cases just plain wrong.
I personally wouldnt have him top 10 P4P as I dont think hes the best heavyweight which is a poor division but have no problem if people have him in there as he just beat Wlad. I also wouldnt have Canelo as number 1. How have they got Garcia behind Khan considering he has fought more, and against better opposition since beating Khan
You lot are just very stubborn. Iv seen people say that Haye and Povetkin are still great hopes.
They have very short memories because both did nothing against Wlad. ;D The active one got battered by a cruiserweight and scraped a MD against him!
How can they be any better than a boxer who has exceeded what they have done?:rolleyes:
Wilder?:rolleyes:
Joshua?;D hes just squeeked past a british level fighter that was out pf boxing for 2 years;D Hes years away from being anything.
Its funny because before Tyson beat Wlad you all said and agreed and its pretty undeniable that Wlad was the best of the division, he wasnt slowing down, hes leagues above everyone else and there is no one out there that can touch him.
Not only that but none of you rated or rather wanted to rate Tyson, you hated him. He was a fat lazy bum with no power and was getting sparked early.
Your opinions got turned on their heads and you are still trying to come to terms with being so very very wrong and now very revisionist that the win means nothing and there ARE other heavyweights who were better than Wlad;D Its ridiculous!
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Fenster
Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."
However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks. ;)
And all below Fury!!!
:lolhaha:
Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.
((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 :D))
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Fenster
Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."
However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks. ;)
And all below Fury!!!
:lolhaha:
Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.
((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 :D))
Boxrec isnt mine;D
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No Im just saying there point system is flawed and in some cases just plain wrong.
I personally wouldnt have him top 10 P4P as I dont think hes the best heavyweight which is a poor division but have no problem if people have him in there as he just beat Wlad. I also wouldnt have Canelo as number 1. How have they got Garcia behind Khan considering he has fought more, and against better opposition since beating Khan
You lot are just very stubborn. Iv seen people say that Haye and Povetkin are still great hopes.
They have very short memories because both did nothing against Wlad. ;D The active one got battered by a cruiserweight and scraped a MD against him!
How can they be any better than a boxer who has exceeded what they have done?:rolleyes:
Wilder?:rolleyes:
Joshua?;D hes just squeeked past a british level fighter that was out pf boxing for 2 years;D Hes years away from being anything.
Its funny because before Tyson beat Wlad you all said and agreed and its pretty undeniable that Wlad was the best of the division, he wasnt slowing down, hes leagues above everyone else and there is no one out there that can touch him.
Not only that but none of you rated or rather wanted to rate Tyson, you hated him. He was a fat lazy bum with no power and was getting sparked early.
Your opinions got turned on their heads and you are still trying to come to terms with being so very very wrong and now very revisionist that the win means nothing and there ARE other heavyweights who were better than Wlad;D Its ridiculous!
If noone rated Fury why did someone back him to win a world title in 2015?
I didnt think he'd beat Wlad but I though he had a good chance. Sure how could someone who got a gift against Big John McDermott ever be considered the best heavyweight. I mean Joshua just squeaked past a British level fighter but at least the result wasnt debatable.
Fury has beaten one good heavyweight and whether he just caught Wlad on a bad day is yet to be seen. As I said I can see plenty of heavies beating him and am pretty certain hes not a massive fav over any of boxrecs top 5 heavies.
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In other words hes not like Floyd, Ward or Rigo where I cant see anyone in their weight classes beating them if that makes sense.
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Thats the problem you see what you want to see. You dont want to see how good Fury is;)
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Thats the problem you see what you want to see. You dont want to see how good Fury is;)
Id be 100% sure its you who sees what you want to see
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Thats the problem you see what you want to see. You dont want to see how good Fury is;)
Id be 100% sure its you who sees what you want to see
Lets see shall we.
I said Tyson was very good and much better than most on here were rating him and I also said quite famously on here for a very long time he would beat Wlad and is the best in the division.
Surprise surprise it happened as I said it would so yes your right I do see things as they are;)
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Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."
However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks. ;)
And all below Fury!!!
:lolhaha:
Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.
((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 :D))
Boxrec isnt mine;D
Those are the rankings you chose to make a point, which has spectacularly backfired against you. The rankings you chose simply proved me correct. If you now wish to distance yourself from them. Fine.
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ross
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ross
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Fenster
Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."
However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks. ;)
And all below Fury!!!
:lolhaha:
Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.
((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 :D))
Boxrec isnt mine;D
Those are the rankings you chose to make a point, which has spectacularly backfired against you. The rankings you chose simply proved me correct. If you now wish to distance yourself from them. Fine.
You are very wrong if you think they have backfired let alone spectacularly.
This indipendent rankng system with no financial interest have Tyson Fury as 3rd best pound for pound fighter in the world and higher than Kell Brook.
How does that prove my point of Tyson being better than Kell Brook wrong you muppet!;D;D;D;D:cool:
The hate is addling your little mind;D
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So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?
Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.
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So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?
Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.
Ok the Welterweight division is more competative where no one is really much better than the rest;) I agree with you.
My whole point of starting posting in this pointless thread is to point out the blatantly obvious that Tyson is better than Brook as is backed up by indipendant rankings and makes a mockery of all your bitter biased opinions.
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ross
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So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?
Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.
Ok the Welterweight division is more competative where no one is really much better than the rest;) I agree with you.
My whole point of starting posting in this pointless thread is to point out the blatantly obvious that Tyson is better than Brook as is backed up by indipendant rankings and makes a mockery of all your bitter biased opinions.
Before the Wlad fight Fury was higher in the rankings? Was Wlad better then Fury all the way until he lost to him? The boxrec rankings mean fuck all. Sure they dont have Gonzalez or Inoue in their top 20 :D
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So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?
Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.
Ok the Welterweight division is more competative where no one is really much better than the rest;) I agree with you.
My whole point of starting posting in this pointless thread is to point out the blatantly obvious that Tyson is better than Brook as is backed up by indipendant rankings and makes a mockery of all your bitter biased opinions.
Before the Wlad fight Fury was higher in the rankings? Was Wlad better then Fury all the way until he lost to him? The boxrec rankings mean fuck all. Sure they dont have Gonzalez or Inoue in their top 20 :D
To be the best you have to beat the best which in Britain Tyson is the only fighter to do so.
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Flanagan is the most underrated. His two round destruction of Magdaleno was arguably the most impressive looking performance last year. He looked superb.
Yup and oddly enough, he's the first English lightweight champion in boxing history
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Flanagan is the most underrated. His two round destruction of Magdaleno was arguably the most impressive looking performance last year. He looked superb.
Yup and oddly enough, he's the first
English lightweight champion in boxing history
Wow you are right!
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Flanagan is the most underrated. His two round destruction of Magdaleno was arguably the most impressive looking performance last year. He looked superb.
Yup and oddly enough, he's the first
English lightweight champion in boxing history
Wow you are right!
yeah English lightweight champions are like busses
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Fighter of the year isnt for the best fighter. Its the fighter who achieved the most and I agree with it being Fury.
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
Hes undefeated! How more consistant can you get!?;D
Which figt has he struggled with fitness? ;D;D
Have a day off pal:rolleyes:
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
Hes undefeated! How more consistant can you get!?;D
Which figt has he struggled with fitness? ;D;D
Have a day off pal:rolleyes:
Fair play Ross, the guy is complimentary as fuck about Fury and you pick up on half a sentence and get all pissy. Fury's weight has fluctuated all over the shop , which is probably expected for a guy his size, but he hasn't looked a model athlete every fight has he ?
Just because , in his opinion , Fury isn't the second coming of Christ, you start with your fucking rolling eyes bollocks. CLOWN!!!
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
Hes undefeated! How more consistant can you get!?;D
Which figt has he struggled with fitness? ;D;D
Have a day off pal:rolleyes:
Fair play Ross, the guy is complimentary as fuck about Fury and you pick up on half a sentence and get all pissy. Fury's weight has fluctuated all over the shop , which is probably expected for a guy his size, but he hasn't looked a model athlete every fight has he ?
Just because , in his opinion , Fury isn't the second coming of Christ, you start with your fucking rolling eyes bollocks. CLOWN!!!
Being inconsistant and unfit are two things Fury has not been.
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
Hes undefeated! How more consistant can you get!?;D
Which figt has he struggled with fitness? ;D;D
Have a day off pal:rolleyes:
Fair play Ross, the guy is complimentary as fuck about Fury and you pick up on half a sentence and get all pissy. Fury's weight has fluctuated all over the shop , which is probably expected for a guy his size, but he hasn't looked a model athlete every fight has he ?
Just because , in his opinion , Fury isn't the second coming of Christ, you start with your fucking rolling eyes bollocks. CLOWN!!!
Being inconsistant and unfit are two things Fury has not been.
Are you telling me that Fury has been as fit in every fight he's had as he was in the Klit fight?
You have a fucking day off pal!😏
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ross
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
Hes undefeated! How more consistant can you get!?;D
Which figt has he struggled with fitness? ;D;D
Have a day off pal:rolleyes:
Fair play Ross, the guy is complimentary as fuck about Fury and you pick up on half a sentence and get all pissy. Fury's weight has fluctuated all over the shop , which is probably expected for a guy his size, but he hasn't looked a model athlete every fight has he ?
Just because , in his opinion , Fury isn't the second coming of Christ, you start with your fucking rolling eyes bollocks. CLOWN!!!
Being inconsistant and unfit are two things Fury has not been.
Are you telling me that Fury has been as fit in every fight he's had as he was in the Klit fight?
You have a fucking day off pal!😏
When has he ever struggled with fitness?
I hope your not just judging people on homoerotic body shape, on which boxer gives you the biggest stiffy!
Maybe you should start a thread on Britains sexiest world champions then you can put Fury at the bottom to your hearts conent but you cannot fault his fitness. He doesnt slow down over the distance and never has!
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I don't know who the 'worst' is, that's a bit of as silly question when you are talking about world title holders, albeit mainly those of the Alphabet Boys.
As for the best, I'd go for Kell Brook, who has looked bit, fit and solid for a few years now. I think he'd be very competitive against any of the other title holders in his weight class. Also, he waited a long time for his title shot, being neatly avoided for years. He has also been tested, has shown chin and heart and seems to be to be the real deal.
Fury's accomplishment was excellent, and he deserved to win by more than the judges thought. He used his size well, bullied and intimidated the uber-bully and was very awkward and elusive. However, Wlad was truly awful that night. Fury has also been a little inconsistent in the past couple of years, especially with his fitness.
Frampton looks awesome going forward to chopping people,down, but he has not yet been truly tested and he was very nearly embarrassed in his last fight by a nobody ..... a bit like his mentor was by Stevie Cruz in Vegas all those years ago ;D
Hes undefeated! How more consistant can you get!?;D
Which figt has he struggled with fitness? ;D;D
Have a day off pal:rolleyes:
Fair play Ross, the guy is complimentary as fuck about Fury and you pick up on half a sentence and get all pissy. Fury's weight has fluctuated all over the shop , which is probably expected for a guy his size, but he hasn't looked a model athlete every fight has he ?
Just because , in his opinion , Fury isn't the second coming of Christ, you start with your fucking rolling eyes bollocks. CLOWN!!!
Being inconsistant and unfit are two things Fury has not been.
Are you telling me that Fury has been as fit in every fight he's had as he was in the Klit fight?
You have a fucking day off pal!😏
When has he ever struggled with fitness?
I hope your not just judging people on homoerotic body shape, on which boxer gives you the biggest stiffy!
Maybe you should start a thread on Britains sexiest world champions then you can put Fury at the bottom to your hearts conent but you cannot fault his fitness. He doesnt slow down over the distance and never has!
Trust me, it's nothing to do with looking ripped. But if you think the Fury that fought McDermott or the Fury that was blowing out of his ass leaning all over Cunningham is as fit as the Fury that beat Wlad, you're more stupid than I thought!
Fury himself has alluded to the fact that he's never trained correctly up till now. He's also said about how he has to lose up to 7 STONE when he goes into camp.
Nothing to do with looking in shape, but no way can a 23/24 stone guy be as fit as when he is 17/18 Stone.
Now you've done what you always do and try to hijack a thread to talk about your bum chum, until I come along and put you in your place. :cool::cool:;D;D
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Re: Who is the best and worst of britains 12 world champions?
What place is that Primo the stupid corner with you sat in your own piss?
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Re: Who is the best and worst of britains 12 world champions?
Ross, mate, I have a view. You have a different view. That's fine.
You don't have to try and change my view, and I don't have to try and change your view.
Oh, and thanks, I might have a day off tomorrow. Thanks for giving me permission ;)