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Steel doesn't have to MELT for it to lose it's structural integrity
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But whatever
Sorry to get back to the original intent of the thread, but this is by far the best post in it. ;D
Won't admit to any of what? Where have I denied that? You have started making stuff up now too then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat I write is well explained and any sensible person will understand it. Even a couple of typing errors for you to chew over. That you refuse to even consider any of the points is on you. You know full well that there are bad elements in council estates, but you won't admit to any of it. That is the fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzMiles get down off your high horse for one second and just read the crap you write. You are obsessed with single mums and the idea that every fucker but you in social housing must be a feckless thick as shit no hoper. It's just a fantasy that makes you feel better. It's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou mustn't be thinking straight as your reasoning appears to be somewhat wonky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I like Jeremy Corbyn because he stands for decent things like increasing wages for poor people, building social housing, protecting key services and bringing back others, amongst other policies. I am not against social housing. I understand its benefits. I have lived in it too, but what I also understand is that around homelessness and social housing there are also a lot of unsavory elements. Kids comes across junkies, prostitutes, teenage Mums, the work shy, alcoholics, violence, gangs, abuse, etc. Of course there are a lot of decent people going through unfortunate things and I totally understand that, but one shouldn't delude onself that it is all happy, salt of the earth people pulling together as one happy family. Given the choice most would want to get out and raise their kids away from the more unsavory elements. That isn't a difficult thing to understand. It doesn't make anyone a Blairite. I don't live in a particularly rich area, I don't live around politicians, what I live around is probably different culturally as rich or poor you do not see teenage single Mums, junkies, the work shy, gangs etc. Is it so bad to say that you wouldn't want to be around such negative influences?
I don't think just about anyone can do my job and that is not even talking myself up. First off to even start on the lowest rung, you must move to an alien culture and teach 30 hours a week in a classroom teaching kids with minimal prep time. That isn't easy work for anyone and in fact it is a reason most do not last more than a year or two. People burn out quickly and need the comfort of home life again. Not anyone can do it over an extended time, it is a select few.
If you are talking about what I do now, then again not everyone is able to get a distinction at a good University in the first place. Not everyone is able to write a dissertation based on unique research and get a first for their troubles. Not every bob cunt can work through tomes such as Perspectives on pedagogic grammar, Advances in spoken discourse analysis, Sociolinguistics, Fundamental considerations in language testing, among others. These are difficult works and the average bloke reading The Sun really wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. He would spend an aftenoon on a paragraph. Don't get me wrong, I find it heavy going too. It is! I know a lot of the people I grew up with who didn't even make it to Uni and work in bars etc, and they wouldn't have a clue and I couldn't blame them. Of course they don't.
Then even to do what I do now, well the ladder has been raised. You cannot even start a good Uni job without 3 years of Uni experiences. Well, how do you get it unless you are given a chance? Not every one can do it. If you think teaching is about speaking English, then you are also very misguided. You need to be versed in the rules of language, have the ability to explain complex terms, be able to deliver a lecture, devise a syllabus, etc. It's really not that easy. From next year I also have to publish. Again, not so easy. How many two bob cunts can even consider such a thing. "You just got to write a paper mate, anyone can do it".....sure they can. ;)
Because, like duh, that is what Walrus brought up. The thread was already on a tangent. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzAgain you seem obsessed with diversity. It's in every thread. What the fuck does it have to do with this thread and actually what does it have to do with divorces, teenage mums, drugs, violence? Do you not think they have teenage mums or take drugs or get divorced or have any violence on middle class estates? You are tripping your nut off if you think the dodgy elements of society are confined to the poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You really have issues with reading comprehension. I said the differences I am seeing are cultural meaning they do not transcend class, but culture. I'm in an ordinary neighborhood and guess what ......no teenage Mums, druggies, work shy, violence, gangs etc. It is cultural. You would only understand it if you took years of your life out to actually experience it.
Fine, council estates are all full of beautiful people who make the best choices in life and we all need more empathy. Fine, got it. ;D:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWon't admit to any of what? Where have I denied that? You have started making stuff up now too then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat I write is well explained and any sensible person will understand it. Even a couple of typing errors for you to chew over. That you refuse to even consider any of the points is on you. You know full well that there are bad elements in council estates, but you won't admit to any of it. That is the fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzMiles get down off your high horse for one second and just read the crap you write. You are obsessed with single mums and the idea that every fucker but you in social housing must be a feckless thick as shit no hoper. It's just a fantasy that makes you feel better. It's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou mustn't be thinking straight as your reasoning appears to be somewhat wonky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I like Jeremy Corbyn because he stands for decent things like increasing wages for poor people, building social housing, protecting key services and bringing back others, amongst other policies. I am not against social housing. I understand its benefits. I have lived in it too, but what I also understand is that around homelessness and social housing there are also a lot of unsavory elements. Kids comes across junkies, prostitutes, teenage Mums, the work shy, alcoholics, violence, gangs, abuse, etc. Of course there are a lot of decent people going through unfortunate things and I totally understand that, but one shouldn't delude onself that it is all happy, salt of the earth people pulling together as one happy family. Given the choice most would want to get out and raise their kids away from the more unsavory elements. That isn't a difficult thing to understand. It doesn't make anyone a Blairite. I don't live in a particularly rich area, I don't live around politicians, what I live around is probably different culturally as rich or poor you do not see teenage single Mums, junkies, the work shy, gangs etc. Is it so bad to say that you wouldn't want to be around such negative influences?
I don't think just about anyone can do my job and that is not even talking myself up. First off to even start on the lowest rung, you must move to an alien culture and teach 30 hours a week in a classroom teaching kids with minimal prep time. That isn't easy work for anyone and in fact it is a reason most do not last more than a year or two. People burn out quickly and need the comfort of home life again. Not anyone can do it over an extended time, it is a select few.
If you are talking about what I do now, then again not everyone is able to get a distinction at a good University in the first place. Not everyone is able to write a dissertation based on unique research and get a first for their troubles. Not every bob cunt can work through tomes such as Perspectives on pedagogic grammar, Advances in spoken discourse analysis, Sociolinguistics, Fundamental considerations in language testing, among others. These are difficult works and the average bloke reading The Sun really wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. He would spend an aftenoon on a paragraph. Don't get me wrong, I find it heavy going too. It is! I know a lot of the people I grew up with who didn't even make it to Uni and work in bars etc, and they wouldn't have a clue and I couldn't blame them. Of course they don't.
Then even to do what I do now, well the ladder has been raised. You cannot even start a good Uni job without 3 years of Uni experiences. Well, how do you get it unless you are given a chance? Not every one can do it. If you think teaching is about speaking English, then you are also very misguided. You need to be versed in the rules of language, have the ability to explain complex terms, be able to deliver a lecture, devise a syllabus, etc. It's really not that easy. From next year I also have to publish. Again, not so easy. How many two bob cunts can even consider such a thing. "You just got to write a paper mate, anyone can do it".....sure they can. ;)
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Originally Posted by GandalfFine, council estates are all full of beautiful people who make the best choices in life and we all need more empathy. Fine, got it. ;D:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWon't admit to any of what? Where have I denied that? You have started making stuff up now too then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat I write is well explained and any sensible person will understand it. Even a couple of typing errors for you to chew over. That you refuse to even consider any of the points is on you. You know full well that there are bad elements in council estates, but you won't admit to any of it. That is the fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzMiles get down off your high horse for one second and just read the crap you write. You are obsessed with single mums and the idea that every fucker but you in social housing must be a feckless thick as shit no hoper. It's just a fantasy that makes you feel better. It's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou mustn't be thinking straight as your reasoning appears to be somewhat wonky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I like Jeremy Corbyn because he stands for decent things like increasing wages for poor people, building social housing, protecting key services and bringing back others, amongst other policies. I am not against social housing. I understand its benefits. I have lived in it too, but what I also understand is that around homelessness and social housing there are also a lot of unsavory elements. Kids comes across junkies, prostitutes, teenage Mums, the work shy, alcoholics, violence, gangs, abuse, etc. Of course there are a lot of decent people going through unfortunate things and I totally understand that, but one shouldn't delude onself that it is all happy, salt of the earth people pulling together as one happy family. Given the choice most would want to get out and raise their kids away from the more unsavory elements. That isn't a difficult thing to understand. It doesn't make anyone a Blairite. I don't live in a particularly rich area, I don't live around politicians, what I live around is probably different culturally as rich or poor you do not see teenage single Mums, junkies, the work shy, gangs etc. Is it so bad to say that you wouldn't want to be around such negative influences?
I don't think just about anyone can do my job and that is not even talking myself up. First off to even start on the lowest rung, you must move to an alien culture and teach 30 hours a week in a classroom teaching kids with minimal prep time. That isn't easy work for anyone and in fact it is a reason most do not last more than a year or two. People burn out quickly and need the comfort of home life again. Not anyone can do it over an extended time, it is a select few.
If you are talking about what I do now, then again not everyone is able to get a distinction at a good University in the first place. Not everyone is able to write a dissertation based on unique research and get a first for their troubles. Not every bob cunt can work through tomes such as Perspectives on pedagogic grammar, Advances in spoken discourse analysis, Sociolinguistics, Fundamental considerations in language testing, among others. These are difficult works and the average bloke reading The Sun really wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. He would spend an aftenoon on a paragraph. Don't get me wrong, I find it heavy going too. It is! I know a lot of the people I grew up with who didn't even make it to Uni and work in bars etc, and they wouldn't have a clue and I couldn't blame them. Of course they don't.
Then even to do what I do now, well the ladder has been raised. You cannot even start a good Uni job without 3 years of Uni experiences. Well, how do you get it unless you are given a chance? Not every one can do it. If you think teaching is about speaking English, then you are also very misguided. You need to be versed in the rules of language, have the ability to explain complex terms, be able to deliver a lecture, devise a syllabus, etc. It's really not that easy. From next year I also have to publish. Again, not so easy. How many two bob cunts can even consider such a thing. "You just got to write a paper mate, anyone can do it".....sure they can. ;)
"Trust me. If you put 30 estate families in my building with their petty crime, smoking, weed etc, then things would turn to shit pretty quickly. Sometimes 'diversity' is the last thing you need. Let a lawyer into the building and maybe he can have a kid, but a lawyer, plus 30 other families, 10 of them not even working, the others taking local jobs. It does not work and I wouldn't want them to try it. It would make life worse for the local population and it would make my life worse too. I don't want them. Thankfully those people mostly have no way of getting in."
So yeah..considering that we are talking about victims of a fire in which 79 people died, many of home have been homeless since, you probably could use some more empathy
I read a recent study saying empathy is a learned behavior
You might have been talking about a fire that killed 79 people, but me and Walrus were not and that is something that should be computing in your head. I stand by that statement as an experiential view about life on council estates. I understand that council estates are full of decent people too, but the unsavory elements are what stick in the mind and unfortunately there is a lot of it. Is it so bad to not want drug dealers in your community? Or have less teenage Mums? Or not have kids loitering outside the shop harrassing old people? I sometimes think it is topsy turvy land. Actually it is, I don't see any of that in my 'fantasy' world. :-X
On a more serious note though. I have only just read the news and it is appalling what is going on, not only with the fire, but the way so many buildings appear to be at risk. There appears to be something deeply wrong with how councils are behaving. Also why are they stockpiling tens of millions of pounds like corporations? Councils exist for one reason only, to serve the community. Council tax is too high anyway and targets the rich the least, so to deprive the poor further by cost cutting and hoarding money is pretty disgusting. Again, it is important to compare and contrast. Everyone lives in a high rise out here and local taxes are very, very low and buildings are very safe. Maybe the UK could import some of the technology and models from overseas as they don't have a very good history when it comes to high rises as documented by Adam Curtis in the 1980's. I say that quite seriously as people deserve a lot better than what they are getting.
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Originally Posted by BeanzThat comment was addressed to Miles. I really don't understand your problem with people expressing themselves and the concept of free speech. Are you not passionate about anything but hating lefties? To be honest you are all a bit fucking weird. You, Miles, Brockton even Walrus sometimes. Why can you not all have your own opinions ? Why are you all so miserable and moany? I don't get it. Constant outrage to the point where despite none of you living in this country you are pissed about victims of a fire being rehomed in social housing. Housing built for people exactly like them. Not mansions stolen from the fucking Queen. Mind blowing.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOH you mean you're not going to call me a (and I quote) "fucking horrible heartless husk of a cunt" again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I wouldn't assume anything, but when my legitimate questions are met with silence or in some cases a "Wow" (and a "Wow" alone) then I take the hint and stop asking the questions.
Or you COULD answer the questions I ask without personally attacking me and assuming things about my character or my values as a human being.......but I suppose that like any other question is too much to ask of you.
I'd been all ready to make nice and keep that going, but apparently that is a bridge too far.
You all seem to look for the negative in absolutely everything. No empathy, no fucking common sense, no idea.
Speak your mind that is free but don't assume there's no response or rebuttal.
Yes, yes we all understand nobody has a bleeding heart as big as yours.
Fuck off with that nonsense. This is not some kind of competition or PC contest it's pretty basic fundamental common sense and empathy. We are talking about re-homing victims of a tragedy in which possibly hundreds died. Some of whom have been sleeping in cars. Nobody has said you can't respond, but when you spout off bollocks about private property being seized by some communist conspiracy then you can expect people to correct you. Pick your battles man, you are all just coming across as heartless arrogant pricks right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHow convenient for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzThat comment was addressed to Miles. I really don't understand your problem with people expressing themselves and the concept of free speech. Are you not passionate about anything but hating lefties? To be honest you are all a bit fucking weird. You, Miles, Brockton even Walrus sometimes. Why can you not all have your own opinions ? Why are you all so miserable and moany? I don't get it. Constant outrage to the point where despite none of you living in this country you are pissed about victims of a fire being rehomed in social housing. Housing built for people exactly like them. Not mansions stolen from the fucking Queen. Mind blowing.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOH you mean you're not going to call me a (and I quote) "fucking horrible heartless husk of a cunt" again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I wouldn't assume anything, but when my legitimate questions are met with silence or in some cases a "Wow" (and a "Wow" alone) then I take the hint and stop asking the questions.
Or you COULD answer the questions I ask without personally attacking me and assuming things about my character or my values as a human being.......but I suppose that like any other question is too much to ask of you.
I'd been all ready to make nice and keep that going, but apparently that is a bridge too far.
You all seem to look for the negative in absolutely everything. No empathy, no fucking common sense, no idea.
Speak your mind that is free but don't assume there's no response or rebuttal.
Yes, yes we all understand nobody has a bleeding heart as big as yours.
..... and the battle rages on.
So anyway, there's this woman's viewpoint on the issue. Do you sympathize with this women's view? Or not?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7806026.html
It's hard not to sympathize with her, whether you agree or not. This is a very dividing issue here. Weren't there other alternatives that could've been explored?
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Fucking hell man. Did you even read the article
"The apartments were always going to be used as social housing, but the developer St Edward is now helping to get them ready for occupation faster.
The flats were originally due for occupation between October and December. Now they are expected to be ready at the end of July.
The Government is also helping to subsidise the more rapid turnaround, which a spokesperson said would cost £2m-£3m, with the money coming out of the Communities department budget.
Residents will be housed separately from the luxury apartments in two purpose-built “affordable housing” blocks.
They won’t have access to the development's gym or the pool, and the design of the flats will be more modest than those of their wealthy neighbours.
The death toll from the horrific Grenfell Tower fire currently stands at 79, but could rise as investigations continue."
I don't sympathize with her because
1. Hundreds of people are likely to be dead and she isn't
2. Nobody is moving into her block
3. The Social housing blocks next door were always going to be used for social housing and so nothing there has changed.
4. The residents at Grenfell were in social housing and they are about to be rehoused in SAFE social housing
FAKE NEWS from the right designed to divide and conquer has been swallowed whole by those eager for it to confirm their prejudice . THE HUGE MAJORTY of press and Media here is owned by Right wing foreign tax avoiding wankers. I know that it is not the same in America but here Murdoch and the Far Right own huge swathes of media and are in attack mode right now becasue this tragedy happened under Auterity measures. People are being moved out of flats all over the UK because of Austerity short cuts making places unsafe. Hospitals, Schools and even Hotels are even now being discovered to have taken short cuts.
So if she is pissed off, who gives a fuck . Why did she move into a block next to one that was always going to be social housing if like many in this thread she is allergic to working class people ?. Fucking toff.
I wouldn't want half of Ethiopia , Sudan and Syria to move into my apartment block if I lived in an apartment .
Corbyn and his merry men could make Jack the Ripper sound like an honest citizen.
I sympathise totally with anyone who bought those apartments for top price , only to have the value lowered.
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Fucking hell man. Did you even read the article
It was a QUESTION, Beanz.
Lower your goddamn weapon, FFS. No WONDER you have this natural tendency to piss everybody off.
Maybe I should've explained how it's normally done.
1. Person A posts an article and asks for opinions.
2. The rest of the people chime in with their opinions.
My bad. I thought this was common sense....... :rolleyes:
Other than that, it IS hard to imagine why someone would buy into a project that is slated for social housing, and then complain when exactly that happens.
Must not have read the fine print.
Notice how nobody cares where the money comes from when it come to overseas property speculation. I include them in the criminality and being booted out thing. There should be checks on where the wealth comes from. If it is criminal money, then take the property and divide up the rooms in the home and you have more homes for local singles who work hard.
Local Singles. So families are now the new target for your ire? You have half the year off what would you know about working hard? One rule for them and another for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I sympathise totally with anyone who bought those apartments for top price , only to have the value lowered.
The cladding on the building failed its fire test heads will roll using substandard materials on the cheap if its true saving money has cost lives,! many building in the UK are having this cladding removed.
It is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
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Originally Posted by BeanzIt is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
Just a thought...
Is it possible he could sympathize with BOTH?
You know..... the woman who is complaining AND the people who died and their families?
I know it's a reach, but it's possible, no?
No it's not possible. Why do you encourage him? You are like a bunch of feeders giving donuts to a morbidly obese person.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BeanzIt is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
Just a thought...
Is it possible he could sympathize with BOTH?
You know..... the woman who is complaining AND the people who died and their families?
I know it's a reach, but it's possible, no?
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Originally Posted by BeanzNo it's not possible. Why do you encourage him? You are like a bunch of feeders giving donuts to a morbidly obese person.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
Just a thought...
Is it possible he could sympathize with BOTH?
You know..... the woman who is complaining AND the people who died and their families?
I know it's a reach, but it's possible, no?
C'mon Beanz. It's a gag reflex for you to automatically disagree with anything/ everything Brock says. It's like swallowing food without chewing it. You'll always assume it tastes bad without having actually stopped to taste it.
Bullshit. You have to turn logic on it's head to make that work. In a thread about 79 people killed in a fire caused entirely by false austerity measures and penny pinching in which I have posted about just that for several pages, how does Brockton choosing to chirp up literally two seconds after disliking a post (which he is the only person I have known to compulsively do) to show sympathy to somebody how does not like working class people, make me the one acting compulsively. You have to bend over backwards for the wanker to make that work.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BeanzNo it's not possible. Why do you encourage him? You are like a bunch of feeders giving donuts to a morbidly obese person.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
Just a thought...
Is it possible he could sympathize with BOTH?
You know..... the woman who is complaining AND the people who died and their families?
I know it's a reach, but it's possible, no?
C'mon Beanz. It's a gag reflex for you to automatically disagree with anything/ everything Brock says. It's like swallowing food without chewing it. You'll always assume it tastes bad without having actually stopped to taste it.
And though from where you are standing you can claim that I piss everyone off, that again is just bullshit.
Yourself, Brockton, Miles, Walrus and Lyle are not everyone.
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Originally Posted by BeanzBullshit. You have to turn logic on it's head to make that work. In a thread about 79 people killed in a fire caused entirely by false austerity measures and penny pinching in which I have posted about just that for several pages, how does Brockton choosing to chirp up literally two seconds after disliking a post (which he is the only person I have known to compulsively do) to show sympathy to somebody how does not like working class people, make me the one acting compulsively. You have to bend over backwards for the wanker to make that work.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzNo it's not possible. Why do you encourage him? You are like a bunch of feeders giving donuts to a morbidly obese person.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
Just a thought...
Is it possible he could sympathize with BOTH?
You know..... the woman who is complaining AND the people who died and their families?
I know it's a reach, but it's possible, no?
C'mon Beanz. It's a gag reflex for you to automatically disagree with anything/ everything Brock says. It's like swallowing food without chewing it. You'll always assume it tastes bad without having actually stopped to taste it.
And though from where you are standing you can claim that I piss everyone off, that again is just bullshit.
Yourself, Brockton, Miles, Walrus and Lyle are not everyone.
I posted an article... asked for opinions.... and you went off like a cheap cherry bomb.
Please explain how that type of knee-jerk, defensive reaction is NOT the sort of stuff that pisses everyone off.
For the record, just because some of us are a little more outspoken than others, doesn't mean you haven't pissed many other people off at one time or another.
It's a forum. I don't really care if I piss people off. It's not a popularity contest. Just because I post in a different style than you and suggest you might want to read the actual article you are posting, that in itself does not make my post a knee jerk reaction. It's quite the opposite. Considered. If you had considered reading the article and thought for yourself instead of jumping on the same knee jerk train of thought as all those here lapping up the Fake news, then you would not have to read defensiveness into everything anyone else posts contrary to you.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BeanzBullshit. You have to turn logic on it's head to make that work. In a thread about 79 people killed in a fire caused entirely by false austerity measures and penny pinching in which I have posted about just that for several pages, how does Brockton choosing to chirp up literally two seconds after disliking a post (which he is the only person I have known to compulsively do) to show sympathy to somebody how does not like working class people, make me the one acting compulsively. You have to bend over backwards for the wanker to make that work.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzNo it's not possible. Why do you encourage him? You are like a bunch of feeders giving donuts to a morbidly obese person.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt is very telling that it took something like that to make you comment 9 pages in. No sympathy for those burnt alive or their families left homeless but plenty for the heartless cunts you aspire to be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human lives are worth something. Those people are dead because people valued saving £5000 on a building more than hundreds of people's lives.
Just a thought...
Is it possible he could sympathize with BOTH?
You know..... the woman who is complaining AND the people who died and their families?
I know it's a reach, but it's possible, no?
C'mon Beanz. It's a gag reflex for you to automatically disagree with anything/ everything Brock says. It's like swallowing food without chewing it. You'll always assume it tastes bad without having actually stopped to taste it.
And though from where you are standing you can claim that I piss everyone off, that again is just bullshit.
Yourself, Brockton, Miles, Walrus and Lyle are not everyone.
I posted an article... asked for opinions.... and you went off like a cheap cherry bomb.
Please explain how that type of knee-jerk, defensive reaction is NOT the sort of stuff that pisses everyone off.
For the record, just because some of us are a little more outspoken than others, doesn't mean you haven't pissed many other people off at one time or another.
Seriously Brockton is a clever manipulative fucker and does not do anything without a reason. Look how much time you are wasting defending him.
Face it Beanz.
Brock could pop in here and say "Good morning", and you'd automatically go into a vitriol-filled, spittle-ejecting rant.
I'm not saying he's always right.
Matter of fact, I disagree with him more than most on here.
But I gotta call a spade a spade.
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Originally Posted by BeanzRubbish. You are just taking the piss now ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Trump
politics
Arms control
Cultures
Most boxers
Shit threads
the meaning of life
Trump
should I continue?
Oops... I forgot his ghastly use of Spanish. :)
Well now you mention it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzRubbish. You are just taking the piss now ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Trump
politics
Arms control
Cultures
Most boxers
Shit threads
the meaning of life
Trump
should I continue?
Oops... I forgot his ghastly use of Spanish. :)
I usually have so little time in which to post that I just post in a stream of consciousness kind of style so forgive me if I offend you.
Good morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I like it here its like my cats blacker than your cat contest I have missed this civilised debate next it will be slapping each other with a wet lettuce.;D
There are more single people than ever and it is hard for them to find a home of their own without moving in with a stranger and renting a room. There is far less social housing for such people. Just common sense really. More affordable singles accomodation would be good in London. Sensible people who don't have kids etc tend to be pushed into the private sector more and that is unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLocal Singles. So families are now the new target for your ire? You have half the year off what would you know about working hard? One rule for them and another for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Piss off with the argument about working hard. I challenge anyone to teach 48 hours of classes between 6am and 10pm like I used to do. Not anyone can do it. People thought I was nuts taking it on, but I wanted to save money and that's how you did it. Burned out pretty bad and had no idea how to fall asleep in the end. Psychological scars that persist even today when it comes to sleep.
'Twas then that I had to find another way and so I invested in education and a new way. My point is that if you don't want to toil then you have to better yourself. You have to invest in skills, maybe not have kids, etc and yes eventually you have more time off too. Nobody is stopping anyone else doing the same.
I usually take what miles says as gospel but I disagree about you making a challenge doubting that people could do your job. Each one of us, except @Master have developed skill sets that would make in challenging for others to do what we have learned to do. If you came to my place of employment you would not know a thing about The machinery or equipment I operate as half the time I barely do myself and am forced to trouble shoot and go through fifty things each of which must be learned or figured out on the fly. Being me, with the high level of intelligence and especially the massive amount of humility I have which makes me extremely proud, I'm sure I could do your job better than you, but for the ninety nine percent it just ain't so. Actually miles your job is quite easy as when you teach people things they don't know you can make everything up and they will beleive you. I could invent entire new languages in one day and have them be fluent and give them all an AQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThere are more single people than ever and it is hard for them to find a home of their own without moving in with a stranger and renting a room. There is far less social housing for such people. Just common sense really. More affordable singles accomodation would be good in London. Sensible people who don't have kids etc tend to be pushed into the private sector more and that is unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLocal Singles. So families are now the new target for your ire? You have half the year off what would you know about working hard? One rule for them and another for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Piss off with the argument about working hard. I challenge anyone to teach 48 hours of classes between 6am and 10pm like I used to do. Not anyone can do it. People thought I was nuts taking it on, but I wanted to save money and that's how you did it. Burned out pretty bad and had no idea how to fall asleep in the end. Psychological scars that persist even today when it comes to sleep.
'Twas then that I had to find another way and so I invested in education and a new way. My point is that if you don't want to toil then you have to better yourself. You have to invest in skills, maybe not have kids, etc and yes eventually you have more time off too. Nobody is stopping anyone else doing the same.
What an amazing display of solidarity and empathy. I take back everything I said, your feelings for the victims of this tragedy are now beyond questioning. Thanks for everything you bring to the forum, before you we were just a place to hang out with fellow fight fans and people from in and around the sport. I don't know how we coped without your idiot mug, gurning out at us like a yellow jaundiced neck haemorrhoid on every thread for so long. Top work.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I doubt people could do it partly because for the first year or two I hadn't a clue either. It is only with experience and then training that you actually master a few things. It is incredibly rude to say that anybody can do something that does actually take a lot of time to understand and then become good at. I wouldn't claim to be able to just become a nurse, or an engineer, or a plumber. You need skillsets and that takes time and effort and not everyone is cut out to do something. Yet on here you hear ignorant comments like 'All you need to do is speak English'. Well, speaking English is one important element, but are you well versed in pedagogic grammar, do you know how to construct an evaluation system, do you understand cultural differences, etc etc? I think only Brock would really have any idea about those things. Even in schools in the UK people do not really learn grammar or have the ability to explain the rules regarding what they say. It is very complex whence we have the field of linguistics and many sub components such as sociolinguistics, written discourse, child language aquisition etc. Anybody can work in a supermarket or clean or something like that, but even working in a pet shop will require specialised knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusI usually take what miles says as gospel but I disagree about you making a challenge doubting that people could do your job. Each one of us, except @Master have developed skill sets that would make in challenging for others to do what we have learned to do. If you came to my place of employment you would not know a thing about The machinery or equipment I operate as half the time I barely do myself and am forced to trouble shoot and go through fifty things each of which must be learned or figured out on the fly. Being me, with the high level of intelligence and especially the massive amount of humility I have which makes me extremely proud, I'm sure I could do your job better than you, but for the ninety nine percent it just ain't so. Actually miles your job is quite easy as when you teach people things they don't know you can make everything up and they will beleive you. I could invent entire new languages in one day and have them be fluent and give them all an AQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThere are more single people than ever and it is hard for them to find a home of their own without moving in with a stranger and renting a room. There is far less social housing for such people. Just common sense really. More affordable singles accomodation would be good in London. Sensible people who don't have kids etc tend to be pushed into the private sector more and that is unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLocal Singles. So families are now the new target for your ire? You have half the year off what would you know about working hard? One rule for them and another for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Piss off with the argument about working hard. I challenge anyone to teach 48 hours of classes between 6am and 10pm like I used to do. Not anyone can do it. People thought I was nuts taking it on, but I wanted to save money and that's how you did it. Burned out pretty bad and had no idea how to fall asleep in the end. Psychological scars that persist even today when it comes to sleep.
'Twas then that I had to find another way and so I invested in education and a new way. My point is that if you don't want to toil then you have to better yourself. You have to invest in skills, maybe not have kids, etc and yes eventually you have more time off too. Nobody is stopping anyone else doing the same.